Killing spree in Hungary... with a twist

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ElPatron said:
werewolfsfury said:
they should have given him a warning shot with a taser into his leg.
- If it hits, it's not a warning shot
- Taser electrodes can be stopped by clothes. People with hoodies have escaped taser shots in the head without incapacitation
- Tasers are quite effective, but you can't be 100% sure of incapacitation. People on drugs can shrug off the shock.
- There is no such thing as a warning shot. If you have a gun, you NEVER point it at something you don't want to hit, so you keep the muzzle facing the threat. Shooting at the air can cause an innocent person getting shot from more than a mile away, shooting at the ground can cause a ricochet
that's the joke. sorry I forgot to put /end sarcasm on it
 

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bojackx said:
You guys are being very offensive, you need to cut it out.
Looks like some one can't withstand a little jab (good lord, I hope that works).
 

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Can a mod please shut this thread down. I've read the first page and every comment is just taking cheap shots at it. I find it reprehensible that a bunch of people can just make fun of the fact that someone did despicable things to their family. None of these individuals have done anything relating to a discussion regarding this matter.
 

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ElPatron said:
Chairman Miaow said:
I was referring specifically to sprees.
All of these used melee weapons.

Unek, William - 21 kills, unknown wounded, 1954
Unknown Soldier (India) - 22 kills, unknown wounded, 1950
Hedin, Tore - 9 kills, 20 wounded, 1952
Unknown (Philippines) - 32 kills, unknown wounded
Wirjo - 20 kills, 12 wounded, 1987
Formentera, Arsenio - 17 kills, unknown wounded, 1968
Unknown (India) - 14 kills, 2 wounded, 1936

I can get you more, if you insist
Anything ya'know, within the last 50 years?
 

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C F said:
I'm assuming he had the option of choosing either a point-and-shoot route
Gunfire isn't a matter of pointing and shooting.

Of course, melee weapons take the most brutal approach. I have seen people on the Escapist who consider firearms too violent and brutal - we should defend our homes with baseball bats! LOGIC!

There is a lot of emotional baggage when pointing a gun at someone. During WWI it was found that most people will not shoot the first time they have an enemy on their sights. That's where the "silhouette" targets come from.

Anyway, it takes a special kind of brutality to point a loaded gun at someone unless you're a kid and you don't understand the consequences.
 

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Chairman Miaow said:
Anything ya'know, within the last 50 years?
Oh, so you are cherry picking?

Jia Yingmin - 12 kills, 2000

Bai Ningyang - 12 kills, 5 injuried, 2006

Wirjo - 20 kills, 12 wounded, 1987 (Again, because you missed it)

Unknown (Ukraine) - 7 deaths, unknown wounded, 1997

Shi Yuejun - 12 kills, 5 wounded, 2006

Duong Van Mon - 12 kills, 6 wounded, 1998

Qiu Xinghua - 11 kills, 2 wounded, 2006
 

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ElPatron said:
There is a lot of emotional baggage when pointing a gun at someone. During WWI it was found that most people will not shoot the first time they have an enemy on their sights. That's where the "silhouette" targets come from.

Anyway, it takes a special kind of brutality to point a loaded gun at someone unless you're a kid and you don't understand the consequences.
Soldiers going off to war? Oh, yeah.
People who never wanted to kill, but are put in the situation anyway? That's an ordeal.
But we're talking about a muderer here, someone whose actions are likely driven out of pent-up spite against their target. While it's far from any actual justifaction, I'm assuming it at least makes the choice to point a loaded gun (or in this case, go all hack-and-slash) at them easier. Perhaps it's unfair of me to do so, but I never expect a murderer to worry about morality or act the way any other human would.
 

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C F said:
Soldiers going off to war? Oh, yeah.
People who never wanted to kill, but are put in the situation anyway? That's an ordeal.
You do know that the Allies were convinced that the Axis soldiers would invade hospitals and burn sick people alive, throw babies in the air and stab them with bayonets, right?

The Germans thought the Allies would gauge off the eyes of the soldiers they captured and spread them in bread.

In Vietnam, the rate of people willing to shoot was 75%.

So much for people "who never wanted to kill".
 

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Liquidacid23 said:
most of the time people have problems with it AFTER the shooting is done not before especially first time shooters... also, in my experience, most of those who aren't willing to shoot are doing it out of fear and cowardice for themselves not for concern over who they are supposed to be shooting at
That's an observation I have found as well. If we take into account that the people serving in the US are volunteers and grew up in the 80's-90's, their condition to shoot for the first time is very high because of superior training methods... and the fact that they are very likely to have been exposed to videogames, which allows some people to ease in the idea of killing humans.

After it, some people will laugh at how the target trip and fell, some won't sleep at night.

I still think that to untrained people shooting is quite personal, specially if they are from the same city. Not the same thing as being sent thousands of miles away to do it.
 
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FoolKiller said:
Can a mod please shut this thread down. I've read the first page and every comment is just taking cheap shots at it. I find it reprehensible that a bunch of people can just make fun of the fact that someone did despicable things to their family. None of these individuals have done anything relating to a discussion regarding this matter.
It's disgraceful, I agree.

Mods, I would appreciate it if you would razor attention to this thread and lock it.
 

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Making sword puns, man whatever happened to sharp wit? These puns are almost like Nazi jokes, Anne Frankly they are starting to get just as dull.

Shame he had to cut so many people from his life. :c
EDIT: I'm going to Hell aren't I?
 

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you people ***** at American for guns, yet this guy was able to get a killing spree with a damn sword?