Kim Yong Il mental ill?

[Davrel]

Glass the entire place.

My reasoning?

1) We would only invade because of the humanitarian issue.
2)During the invasion hundreds of thousands of civilians would die (rendering point 1 redundant).
3)If we don't invade those same civilians die, albeit more slowly, from starvation.
4)If we don't stop the regime in NK we still have to deal with a reckless, incredibly dangerous nation that relies on brinkmanship to further its foreign policy.

There are, therefore, no positives to doing nothing about NK.

Invading would be incredibly costly in terms of our own soldiers lives etc. So to have a very high chance of removing the "problem" (and remember I'm not talking about the humanitarian issue here) the only option is nuclear weaponry.

Everyday, powerful states do nothing to stop conflicts and overthrow regimes were civilians are killed en mass; morality is no issue in IR.

N.B. - I'm not saying that this is a good solution but it would probably work.

I cant see how rendering a place unliveable for decades having people literally die from bloodloss and radiation sickness is any better that what it is now.

You appear to have missed the line: "(and remember I'm not talking about the humanitarian issue here)" and the overall message of my comment that such things are, like it or not, largely irrelevant to the important powers-that-be unless it negatively effects their own economy or state security.

I should also mention that a further reason to avoid a traditional invasion is because of two following figures: an estimated 1million SOUTH Koreans would be killed and $1trillion would be wiped off the world economy due to the almost guaranteed loss/destruction of Seoul.

I'm really not bullshitting, you can look this stuff up.

 

[BiscuitTrouser]

Indoubtedly. North Korea is a single most horrible regime in the world, i say it's about damn time someone invades and starts fixing things okay, stupid idea - just let him die of old age.

Yes its about time we went there and burnt that ragime to the ground did some harsh political talking. A man can die, the idea of a tyrant will not. There is a programme i watched where a woman was taking her child to school singing a song about her hatred of the US this is deep rooted. The place is a shithole. I just hate north korea policy of "justice" with a passion, a bastion of evil and oppression. The poeple are not to blame.

 

[Blatherscythe]

Jim Jong Il is an insane, selfish, sadistic, short, dictator obsessed with keeping his power through force, fear, brainwashing and isolation (kind of like the shogun's of the Edo period in Japan), there's no doubt about it. Someone would have put him out of power if there was something to be gained from it (Iraq war is mainly about oil not freeing the people from their horrible state of affairs) and lets not forget that North Korea has a suprisingly large army with nuclear weapons (can't hit the states, but can hold South Korea hostage). Jim Jong Il is a horrible excuse for a human being and is destroying the country he has been running, sadly there's nothing to gain with going to war with them in any big countries eyes.

 

[Riobux]

Actually Kim Jong II sent him to death for a more logical yet chilling reason. It's so the guy doesn't breed dissatisfaction with the country at all among it's citizens. If even 100 people knew about the large economic difference between south and north, people from the north may move to the south (which is under a different government I think) just to get cheaper food. It's really Kim Jong II enforcing censorship. Nothing mad about it, just strict.

 

[Klepa]

I was under the impression that the dude's been dead for a good while now..

Anyway, yeah. I don't know how to comment on this, pretty much everything that goes on in N. Korea is, in my books, a travesty.

 

[Naeo]

To the people saying we should invade, no, we shouldn't. North KOrea has an army over over 2 million people. Granted, they don't really feed most of them, but still, that's a big damn army. And, apparently, most of the people in the country have been brainwashed to believe all the bullshit about "Kim Jong Il is a god" and "North Korea is the most perfect nation ever" and "America is a country of slum towns" etc etc.

 

[MatParker116]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh_9QhRzJEs

 

[SpaceCop]

Kidnap Kim Jong-il and replace him with a heavily made-up Gary Oldman. Bam. Policy changes, improved economic climate, new attitudes to the West, nuclear disarmament, combined Oscar/Medal of Honor. Everybody wins.

 

[pantallica95]

Kidnap Kim Jong-il and replace him with a heavily made-up Gary Oldman. Bam. Policy changes, improved economic climate, new attitudes to the West, nuclear disarmament, combined Oscar/Medal of Honor. Everybody wins.

/thread.

OT, the man is a blight on the world, and should be removed ASAP. Worry about political consequences later, the guy is putting an entire people in an opaque box, and lying to them about what's outside. It's unjustifiable in my opinion.

 

[DeathChairOfHell]

We should photoshop Kim Jong il onto that photo Cartman and Kyle gave the Japanese president.

totally.

 

[Davrel]

This is the best piece of reasoning I've ever read.

Thanks! And to think I wrote all that with the worst hangover I've had in months...

If you're being sarcastic...*shakes fist* blast you!

 

[Ninjamedic]

Get me Reb brown, Bruce campbell and a frag grenade, im sorting this out!