Kingdom Hearts -- I just don't really get why it's so popular

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CrazyGirl17

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I think it has to do with having both Disney and Final Fantasy characters in the same game.

And yes, I like Kingdom Hearts, but I wish they'd just quit stretching out the story and get to Kingdom Hearts 3 already!
 

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It was so popular because, come on. On paper it sounds like an acid dream. Disney characters and Final Fantasy people beating the be-jesus out of demons?

I enjoyed the game, personally. Story was hard to follow, but I still loved it when I could understand it.
 

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Join the club of "I don't get why X is popular."
Most people in this club put the word "Halo" in the place of X.

I liked it personally. The crossover was clear-cut fan service and the plot was actually really good if you chose to follow it.
 

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I don't get it either. People say it's about the story and what not but when you have a kid who uses a oversized sword as a weapon beating a man who is a false god and another guy who KILLED a false God with a giant sword story is out the window. Others saying it's to see the Final Fantasy characters again, that's where I turn toward the Final Fantasy games on my shelf and say who's up for another round of fun fellahs? I don't need a sellout cashin game mixing them all together to like them more.

It's like mixing the movie Aliens with the Muppets, it doesn't mix. Don't quote me telling me to play it to get it, because I did, I have the preorder poster stuck on my wall behind my desk still, I hate the game.
 

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Blitzwing said:
Snotnarok said:
I don't get it either. People say it's about the story and what not but when you have a kid who uses a oversized sword as a weapon beating a man who is a false god and another guy who KILLED a false God with a giant sword story is out the window.
What the hell are you talking about?
Sephiroth became a false God and Cloud killed him, and Sora, a kid beat both them in Hades little tournament place.
 

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lithium.jelly said:
Space Spoons said:
The overarching plot, characters and settings all had that irresistible Disney flavor, while retaining Square's unique fantasy elements. It was like going to a Disneyworld park based on Final Fantasy. Pure awesome.
I've never understood the appeal of Kingdom Hearts either, and what I've quoted sums up why.
To me, anything Disney is a reason to run a mile from it. Disney was great fun when I was a little kid, but it really lacks any kind of complexity or ambiguity in the characters. So by the time I was twelve or so, Disney had really begun to lose it's charm and by the age of fourteen, that kind of thing could no longer hold my interest at all.
Kingdom Hearts actually looks like it could be enjoyable if they cut every last Disney reference out of it first.
For me, I can sum up KH in two words: Worlds Collide. It takes the grown-up seriousness of Square with the child-like innocence of Disney. I rather enjoyed the second game better as it had a lot of plot twists, (I found the gameplay easier) introduced a lot of new characters and plot twists. Like perhaps all games, it is the story of a person growing up, exploring the world, losing some innocence, but at the same time maintaining ties to that innocence in order to make sense of things. I really like being able to see all these worlds through different eyes. And I love the additional story elements added in to the Disney worlds. I also like the light v dark kind of elements and the character growth. I like to think that even parts of the Disney world can grow up a bit too. The series has a lot of emotional moments.

I'd say it's one of my three top game series, and probably the only one of those that's still currently on-going. I pick story as the most important driving force in gaming for me personally.

If you're against Goofy and Donald, two of the recent games, "Birth by Sleep" and "358/2 Days" don't feature Sora, Donald, and Goofy as the protagonists. BBS is getting rave reviews both for story and gameplay.

As for the story-line questions you don't know yet, 1- yeah, there's plenty yet to explore, hence the sequels. 2- Try reading the Ansem/Secret/Xehanort Reports, they fill in a lot of gaps.

And yes, there is a part of the KH fanbase that.. doesn't make the rest of us look all that great... Thanks guys... But the same can be said of most anything that's insanely popular, and in fact, being a jrpg, it doesn't seem to get a lot of respect by serious gamers, but I really love it.

If you have a PS2, and I know you do, I recommend you track down Re:Chain of Memories. It was the first game I managed to play, and it made me fall in love. I *liked* the card-based battle system (in addition to the regular way, so I'm not weird) and I like the story. Also has what I think is some of the saddest moments of the series.

Personally, I really dig it, and wish it was more popular and more respected. But I guess I see it's not for everyone. If the mere hint of Mickey's ears makes you cringe, this is not the game for you. If you're grown up enough to enjoy Final Fantasy but haven't lost the inner-child that still appreciates Disney, then this should be a good game.

Why do I love it? I loved the Winnie the Pooh section. I love the plot-twist of characters' sacrifice. I love the Square characters fitting into this Disney world so well. I love seeing the Disney characters, Mickey and Minnie becoming badass - Goofy coming up with good ideas, Donald actually showing some rare emotion. (After playing KH, seeing these chars in most any other medium is a lil shocking. Is that really you?!) Maybe it's nostalgia in there too. I like being able to agree with a character that you can grow up and still hold on to your childhood at the same time. I also thought the game play was varied and challenging enough to be very entertaining. Loved seeing all the different combos and reaction commands you can execute.
 

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I guess I just expected to like it since I like the JRPG genre well enough and the KH battle system was way fun .
there you go. jrpg leveling up system. way fun battle system. thats pretty much the two primary reasons i love the series.

i also love the story too, but thats VERY subjective.
 

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I don't understand why people like Grand Theft Auto so much. It's the same thing. People like different things. I personally love Kingdom Hearts and can't wait for the official third game.
 

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Blitzwing said:
Snotnarok said:
Blitzwing said:
Snotnarok said:
I don't get it either. People say it's about the story and what not but when you have a kid who uses a oversized sword as a weapon beating a man who is a false god and another guy who KILLED a false God with a giant sword story is out the window.
What the hell are you talking about?
Sephiroth became a false God and Cloud killed him, and Sora, a kid beat both them in Hades little tournament place.
Oh, still how does that ruin the story for you?
A child beat up a guy who was basically a god and the guy who beat him. That throws all continuity out the window into a firey pit.
 

Snotnarok

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Blitzwing said:
Snotnarok said:
Blitzwing said:
Snotnarok said:
Blitzwing said:
Snotnarok said:
I don't get it either. People say it's about the story and what not but when you have a kid who uses a oversized sword as a weapon beating a man who is a false god and another guy who KILLED a false God with a giant sword story is out the window.
What the hell are you talking about?
Sephiroth became a false God and Cloud killed him, and Sora, a kid beat both them in Hades little tournament place.
Oh, still how does that ruin the story for you?
A child beat up a guy who was basically a god and the guy who beat him. That throws all continuity out the window into a firey pit.
What continuity? The Cloud and Sephiroth from Kingdom Hearts aren?t the same as the one?s from Final Fantasy VII.
Is this supposed to be some plot you find out in Kingdom Hearts 2 or something? It really doesn't matter I didn't dig the game, I played it, tried to follow it and I gave up somewhere in the middle. It just wasn't my kind of game.
 

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I never understood it myself. Frankly I think the idea of fighting cute little shadow things with a giant key along with Donald and Goofy and the cast of FF10 is both nauseating and ridiculous. I just found the whole concept to be kind of off putting. I may have actually been able to get into it if the combat was okay but I thought if felt clunky and the camera made me mad. A lot of my friends really got into it, but I didn't. I also kind of hate Disney movies too and most JRPGs.
 

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I don't understand the appeal of this series either. It probably doesn't help that I'm not a huge fan of Disney, and I've never gotten into the Final Fantasy games.

If I were to hazard a guess, I'd say it's the cultural crossover appeal. There are scads of anime and Final Fantasy fans nowadays, and combining it with characters from possibly the most cherished western animation studio provided the best of both worlds.
 

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it combines disney and final fantasy in a way that isnt immediately horrible. that alone is a wondrous achievement, and personally i kept playing it mostly to see how crazy this hybrid universe could get. its a very interesting combination that is executed fairly well, and at its time VERY unique; that alone was more than enough to hold my interest.

its a JRPG with a more insane premise than most, yet at the same time holds it all together better than most.

if you told me 10 years ago that i would one day smack around sephiroth with a giant key while donald duck provided magical support and love it, i would ask you what kind of crazy future drug would conjure such a situation and where do i get it. as always, the answer was japan....