Konami Offers Exchanges on 360 Silent Hill HD Collection

[Sixties Spidey]

What's the actual problem with it? I own the Silent Hill HD and have played some of the 'original voices' (which I think is just the original version of the game) Silent Hill 2 and so far it seems to be just fine.
I think to understand the issue I need to know what the problem is and so far reading these articles they haven't explained. Let me tell you if it turns out I'm playing a broken incorrect version of SH2 I won't be a happy Vrex.

That said if I as an Xbox player with no PS2 want to play Silent Hill 2 I kind of need to get this HD collection, it's pretty poor sport to then let it break and not bother to fix it.

Believe me when I say that you are so much better off tracking down either a refurbished PS2 and both Silent Hill games or just getting them on the PC. The voice issues are a small part of a mountain of problems with the re-release on both platforms, and a lot of them aren't just visual or audio issues too. A lot of them happen to be gameplay-related, rendering both HD ports glitchy and virtually unplayable.

I don't care that Konami is offering an exchange program for the Xbox 360 version, that really doesn't change the fact that Konami knowingly shipped a broken HD re-release of two games from eight-nine years ago. But cancelling it due to "technical issues and resources" only to offer an exchange program the following day smacks of incompetence, laziness, and hypocrisy.

There is no excusing laziness on the part of a shitty developer and publisher that doesn't know what the fuck it's doing, especially when you consider that this HD re-release was Konami's chance to bring two of (arguably) the best games ever made to a brand new audience and that they FAILED to do so.

I'll give them credit by saying that other companies would've said "Eh, tough luck" if the same thing happened, but that's really just damning with faint praise at this point.

 

[antman890]

its when i hear about things like this that i wish the death penalty for stupidity was legal.

You'd probably be the first to go then, eh?

OT: The inner machinations of their minds are an enigma. Surely patching it would be the easier route to take?

unfortunately pompus ass wipes like urself don't seem to understand that companys dont care which way is easier for customers, just the cash in their customers pockets. if costomers don't get out the dosh why do anything? instead make customers do the work to fix company mistakes. its pretty pathetic business model but what can you do?

I think that you don't make any actual sense. First you say that you want the government to kill/murder "stupid people", and now you're railing against shitty business practices.

my original point is that this type of business practice is bad, retarding and stupid and whoever came up with it is stupid, and therefore should be shot and their family should pay for the bullet. it might be business savy to save a few buck but its stupid to alienate ur customer base no matter what business ur in and thats exactly what they're doing.

understand????????????

 

[Roofstone]

Well that's way more than I expected them to do. Now all those people should turn it in for Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, the one Konami gave a shit about.

Agreed, it is a splendid collection!

 

[Ickorus]

"technical issues and resources." likely meaning "Microsoft won't let us do it unless we force you to pay for it."

 

[Britisheagle]

If other devs can afford to patch their games, even those who are less well established than Konami, then surely they could afford to fix this one. Especially as these are their loyal customers who purchased it.

Shocking.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Now this may just be because I hadn't played it when either came out originally, but the only problem I've noticed is the the chainsaw sound.

Although if it is as bad as people are saying it is, then it confuses me how the same company could fuck up one HD collection (Silent Hill, apparently) and then make one that is excellent (Metal Gear Solid)

 

[antman890]

These bastards should be fined to hell for bullshit like this. I absolutely hate how the software industries get special treatment by the law. Makes me sick.

i hear you. its all because of intelectual property laws. i don't think that it will change in the next 30 years. i used to think that it customers of products with strong intelectual property ties (i.e. gamers, music lovers, etc.) tried to petion for a change in favour of customers, something postive might happen but now i think their just gonna keep going until the act of looking at a game means the company owns your soul. lol

 

[antman890]

These bastards should be fined to hell for bullshit like this. I absolutely hate how the software industries get special treatment by the law. Makes me sick.

i hear you. its all because of intelectual property laws. i don't think that it will change in the next 30 years. i used to think that it customers of products with strong intelectual property ties (i.e. gamers, music lovers, etc.) tried to petion for a change in favour of customers, something postive might happen but now i think their just gonna keep going until the act of looking at a game means the company owns your soul. lol

There's still hope. When our generation gets in governing positions, there will finally be people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about in a position to fix things. The retards today are all like "wuts firefox? Is it like irnternets xploder? People us it to steal shit?! OH NO! THEFT IS WRONG! GOTTA BAN EVERYTHIGN!"

As evidences by all the SOPA/CISPA/ACTA/whatever the latest version is named-circus.

true that once technology fluent generations come into power there will be more ability to stop this silliness but what would stop influential companies from fighting tooth and nail to protect "their" intelectual rights? they've got the money to hire hoards of lawyers to defend their rights as money hungry useless middle men and their right to control everything even though they have created nothing (execpt a confusing and dodgey system of keeping everything for themselves).

 

[antman890]

These bastards should be fined to hell for bullshit like this. I absolutely hate how the software industries get special treatment by the law. Makes me sick.

i hear you. its all because of intelectual property laws. i don't think that it will change in the next 30 years. i used to think that it customers of products with strong intelectual property ties (i.e. gamers, music lovers, etc.) tried to petion for a change in favour of customers, something postive might happen but now i think their just gonna keep going until the act of looking at a game means the company owns your soul. lol

There's still hope. When our generation gets in governing positions, there will finally be people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about in a position to fix things. The retards today are all like "wuts firefox? Is it like irnternets xploder? People us it to steal shit?! OH NO! THEFT IS WRONG! GOTTA BAN EVERYTHIGN!"

As evidences by all the SOPA/CISPA/ACTA/whatever the latest version is named-circus.

true that once technology fluent generations come into power there will be more ability to stop this silliness but what would stop influential companies from fighting tooth and nail to protect "their" intelectual rights? they've got the money to hire hoards of lawyers to defend their rights as money hungry useless middle men and their right to control everything even though they have created nothing (execpt a confusing and dodgey system of keeping everything for themselves).

Of course they will fight and lobby and do all the things they're already doing. But SOPA/CISPA/ACTA/HERPDERPA all got voted down once people heard about them. If those people are the ones who get to vote about it in the first place, well, chances are they're gonna have the same opinion they had back when all they did was hear about it. You know what I mean? We'll see what happens, but there's a serious issue today with the punishment for certain things not fitting the crime and people are not happy about it. Look at how they fine pirates and whatever. Millions of dollars. Nobody in their right mind things that's reasonable on any planet, and it's shit like that which is creating a divide between the rule of the law and the rule of personal morals. The longer it stays like that, the more the law is actually being undermined and hollowed out in the eyes of people. Can't keep going like that.

i hope your right on this. i think for something like pirating they should just ban the person from using computers (unless their day job consists of it). when ex cons are on probation they aren't allowed to assosiate with felons, it closer to that model than anything else i can think of and i think its firly reasonable. not fine them into bankruptcy.

 

[AngryMongoose]

For fucks sake; how much are Microsoft charging to certify patches that the cheaper option is to offer a different game to all customers?

Should be a free extra game, and not a trade : /

 

[weirdee]

Wait, instead of replacing it with another game that the customer didn't really want anyway, couldn't they just exchange the game with a patched on disc version? What will they do with all the turned in games anyway? Resell them?

 

[faefrost]

I can understand the outrage. But there is still something weirder going on behind the scenes here. I mean why fix the problem on the PS3 but not the XBox 360? Can we reasonably suspect that there is something in the rules, policies, certification testing or business agreements with MS that discourage Konami from actually fixing the problem?

 

[antman890]

These bastards should be fined to hell for bullshit like this. I absolutely hate how the software industries get special treatment by the law. Makes me sick.

i hear you. its all because of intelectual property laws. i don't think that it will change in the next 30 years. i used to think that it customers of products with strong intelectual property ties (i.e. gamers, music lovers, etc.) tried to petion for a change in favour of customers, something postive might happen but now i think their just gonna keep going until the act of looking at a game means the company owns your soul. lol

There's still hope. When our generation gets in governing positions, there will finally be people who actually know what the fuck they're talking about in a position to fix things. The retards today are all like "wuts firefox? Is it like irnternets xploder? People us it to steal shit?! OH NO! THEFT IS WRONG! GOTTA BAN EVERYTHIGN!"

As evidences by all the SOPA/CISPA/ACTA/whatever the latest version is named-circus.

true that once technology fluent generations come into power there will be more ability to stop this silliness but what would stop influential companies from fighting tooth and nail to protect "their" intelectual rights? they've got the money to hire hoards of lawyers to defend their rights as money hungry useless middle men and their right to control everything even though they have created nothing (execpt a confusing and dodgey system of keeping everything for themselves).

Of course they will fight and lobby and do all the things they're already doing. But SOPA/CISPA/ACTA/HERPDERPA all got voted down once people heard about them. If those people are the ones who get to vote about it in the first place, well, chances are they're gonna have the same opinion they had back when all they did was hear about it. You know what I mean? We'll see what happens, but there's a serious issue today with the punishment for certain things not fitting the crime and people are not happy about it. Look at how they fine pirates and whatever. Millions of dollars. Nobody in their right mind things that's reasonable on any planet, and it's shit like that which is creating a divide between the rule of the law and the rule of personal morals. The longer it stays like that, the more the law is actually being undermined and hollowed out in the eyes of people. Can't keep going like that.

i hope your right on this. i think for something like pirating they should just ban the person from using computers (unless their day job consists of it). when ex cons are on probation they aren't allowed to assosiate with felons, it closer to that model than anything else i can think of and i think its firly reasonable. not fine them into bankruptcy.

Dude, "banning people" from using computers is like banning people from using a phone or a sending mails. By your logic, someone who has once robbed or stolen a taxi can never use taxis. People steal shit in stores all day, every day, everywhere. Do they ban people from going to stores? Insane.

then what else can you suggest? its all well and good to say that the punishment should fit the crime but what punishment is fitting of piracy? imprinsonment? hands being choped off?

 

[Kopikatsu]

I can understand the outrage. But there is still something weirder going on behind the scenes here. I mean why fix the problem on the PS3 but not the XBox 360? Can we reasonably suspect that there is something in the rules, policies, certification testing or business agreements with MS that discourage Konami from actually fixing the problem?

Microsoft charges obscene amounts of money for the privilege to patch games on their system, remember?

 

[lithiumvocals]

I can understand the outrage. But there is still something weirder going on behind the scenes here. I mean why fix the problem on the PS3 but not the XBox 360? Can we reasonably suspect that there is something in the rules, policies, certification testing or business agreements with MS that discourage Konami from actually fixing the problem?

Microsoft charges obscene amounts of money for the privilege to patch games on their system, remember?

But this is Konami. I figure that if anyone has enough disposable income to pay for a patch, it's them.