Oh good, it's just another murderer. Thought something was threatening my internet for a second there.
KONY 2012 [seriously important you guys check this out]. Now with more facts!
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Why does it seem like everything in these forums was already posted on Reddit the day before?
OT: It's really good that this video has gotten so much traction over the last few days, Kony's a seriously disgusting war criminal who needs to be brought to justice and it's great to see that more people are discovering who he is and trying to moving towards putting a stop to him.
It'll be a great day for human rights when he's finally caught and/or killed
OT: It's really good that this video has gotten so much traction over the last few days, Kony's a seriously disgusting war criminal who needs to be brought to justice and it's great to see that more people are discovering who he is and trying to moving towards putting a stop to him.
It'll be a great day for human rights when he's finally caught and/or killed
There was nothing wrong with being happy about Bin Laden's death and there will be nothing wrong with being happy about Kony's death.Andy of Comix Inc said:
Though I understand your fear that people might completely misunderstand this whole thing...
OT: Glad someone posted this. I was just about to start a thread myself!
It's amazing how big it has gotten in the span of one day.
My only problem with the whole thing is that we already HAVE people on the ground, so support now is just sort of upkeep.
I wasn't aware that Kony existed, now I do. How DARE people publicize targets for my charity.Chairman Miaow said:
I am charitable on a daily basis, but I like to actually have things to be charitable towards. I'm not doing it to be "hip" or "trendy" (things I hate), I'm going to assist because I'm actually AWARE of it now.
I'm not sure that would be an incredibly good idea. Don't get me wrong, the guy is a bastard and deserves any punishment he gets based on what I've heard. But imagine if he was arrested and tried for war crimes. Do you think the people who follow him who obviously believe him some sort of god-like figure will just sit back and watch him be put to death? The same people who already gladly kill for him, and have access to a good amount of weapons? No, it will only lead to further bloodshed and another war. Not to mention the fact he's not new at this. If he wasn't good at leading he'd be dead by now.
A better way to do it is stage for him to be killed. But on top of being illegal, it would also cause one of a few different scenarios to happen. The first (and most likely in my mind) is that someone else takes control and continues his work. The second being that, without their leader, those he lead will go on a violent rampage. Or if they find out he was assassinated by another country, then it'll likely lead to terrorist activities just like arresting him likely would.
A better way to do it is stage for him to be killed. But on top of being illegal, it would also cause one of a few different scenarios to happen. The first (and most likely in my mind) is that someone else takes control and continues his work. The second being that, without their leader, those he lead will go on a violent rampage. Or if they find out he was assassinated by another country, then it'll likely lead to terrorist activities just like arresting him likely would.
wow, i just saw this video on face not too long ago. and i agree with you, we must stop this horrible man at all costs.
edit: After looking into this a little more I can safely say... I feel like an idiot for almost getting sucked into this bullshit. there's a ton of Warlords through out Africa, and getting rid just one of them isn't gonna do a thing to fix the whole continent. we tried militarily intervention to catch this guy twice before, and it failed both times. it's like Vietnam, but with a "save the children" angle thrown in. we're already dealing with a lot of crap here on the home front and shouldn't get involved in this crap.
edit: After looking into this a little more I can safely say... I feel like an idiot for almost getting sucked into this bullshit. there's a ton of Warlords through out Africa, and getting rid just one of them isn't gonna do a thing to fix the whole continent. we tried militarily intervention to catch this guy twice before, and it failed both times. it's like Vietnam, but with a "save the children" angle thrown in. we're already dealing with a lot of crap here on the home front and shouldn't get involved in this crap.
Ya know what. I am gonna be that guy. I don't wanna be but I am gonna be.
Fuck this bullshit.
I am sick and tired of lazy fucking people pretending to give a damn about shit when it takes them no effort at all. Now me, I don't care about this guy. Hes just another asshole who thinks hes a warlord. They are a dime a dozen over there. And people have been trying to take him out for a long time so do not think this is something new. But signing a arrest warrant ain't gonna do shit for a guy with a fucking army.
But my biggest problem is with these people who think they are doing something. These lazy bastards who watch a video, share it and think they have actually done something to help "bring this fucker to justice"
Its a worrying trend because it lets lazy fucks feel good about themselves for nothing.
Heres a news flash everyone. Sharing this video won't do one iota of rancid fuck. Changing your facebook picture to a pink ribbon won't do a single thing to stop domestic violence or end world hunger or any of that shit.
You want to do something to stop this guy? Get off your PC, get off your asses, pick up a goddamn rifle, go to Uganda and do your best to put a fucking bullet between his eyes.
But until you are willing to do that, please, do everyone a favour and stop pretending you give a damn about what hes doing. You don't and it is insulting that you get a moral high off doing jack shit.
Signed
- Someone who don't give a shit about Kony but at least has the balls to admit it.
Fuck this bullshit.
I am sick and tired of lazy fucking people pretending to give a damn about shit when it takes them no effort at all. Now me, I don't care about this guy. Hes just another asshole who thinks hes a warlord. They are a dime a dozen over there. And people have been trying to take him out for a long time so do not think this is something new. But signing a arrest warrant ain't gonna do shit for a guy with a fucking army.
But my biggest problem is with these people who think they are doing something. These lazy bastards who watch a video, share it and think they have actually done something to help "bring this fucker to justice"
Its a worrying trend because it lets lazy fucks feel good about themselves for nothing.
Heres a news flash everyone. Sharing this video won't do one iota of rancid fuck. Changing your facebook picture to a pink ribbon won't do a single thing to stop domestic violence or end world hunger or any of that shit.
You want to do something to stop this guy? Get off your PC, get off your asses, pick up a goddamn rifle, go to Uganda and do your best to put a fucking bullet between his eyes.
But until you are willing to do that, please, do everyone a favour and stop pretending you give a damn about what hes doing. You don't and it is insulting that you get a moral high off doing jack shit.
Signed
- Someone who don't give a shit about Kony but at least has the balls to admit it.
Usually, I'm right there with you on cases like breast cancer, ending world hunger, or Japan's tsunami. But, unlike breast cancer where everybody knows about it, or ending world hunger, this has a very clear goal. Shift focus on to a war criminal, not catch him, kill him, or anything like that. I would argue that most people have no idea who he is prior to these posts. If the public catches wind of this, they start a moral panic, then we're looking at another Saddam Hussein, not the best of results in that case, but hey. And it's been fairly successful. Unlike cancer or world hunger, this is a very easy solution to fix. One that's very possible. Our power is in numbers. The more awareness, the more power the people have to influence those in charge. That's the goal here.Monkeyman O said:
Honestly, if he were a leader of a larger army, I'd agree. If he were killed, the power vacuum would divide among the tribe and they would tear themselves apart vying for resources, drugs, guns, people.Kapol said:
So what do you people, who are so concerned about this, intend to do? Other than sit on your ass and post links to a youtube video in facebook, tumbler and different forums of course.
You can talk about "spreading the word" and "starting a movement" and "forcing governments to tak action", but in 3 months this dude is still around and you people have moved on to the next thing you are outraged about.
You can talk about "spreading the word" and "starting a movement" and "forcing governments to tak action", but in 3 months this dude is still around and you people have moved on to the next thing you are outraged about.
Okay, yes, this is an important cause blah blah. Bad guys and whatnot.
But consider a few things before jumping on the hipster charity bandwagon.
-This is not a new deal, this man's crimes have gone on for years and no one has blinked an eye, but now, when an "edgy" trendy charity brings it up, it's suddenly a pressing matter.
-Invisible children is no longer a very trustworthy charity. There's proof that less than 25% of their money actually helps children in Uganda. They rest is used to send rich white kids to africa to do nothing.
-Addressing a man like this is not really achievable, it's something that only a government power could do. Their plan is to essentially sit down a bunch of rich kids in a room with the guy and get him to sign a treaty. People of government and power have done this before,and all it lead to was more violence. You really think they'll achieve anything. If you donate all your savings to this, it's just going to get dropped in the bucket. Don't be fooled.
So, please ponder and do your research before you jump on a bandwagon because it plucks your heartstrings. If everyone did that the rich would be richer and the poor would be happy with living in manipulation.
Please guys,invest in a better charity. There are many that will use your money better.
But consider a few things before jumping on the hipster charity bandwagon.
-This is not a new deal, this man's crimes have gone on for years and no one has blinked an eye, but now, when an "edgy" trendy charity brings it up, it's suddenly a pressing matter.
-Invisible children is no longer a very trustworthy charity. There's proof that less than 25% of their money actually helps children in Uganda. They rest is used to send rich white kids to africa to do nothing.
-Addressing a man like this is not really achievable, it's something that only a government power could do. Their plan is to essentially sit down a bunch of rich kids in a room with the guy and get him to sign a treaty. People of government and power have done this before,and all it lead to was more violence. You really think they'll achieve anything. If you donate all your savings to this, it's just going to get dropped in the bucket. Don't be fooled.
So, please ponder and do your research before you jump on a bandwagon because it plucks your heartstrings. If everyone did that the rich would be richer and the poor would be happy with living in manipulation.
Please guys,invest in a better charity. There are many that will use your money better.
There isn't much we can do about it, every youtube comment is already about it, by the end of the week every one will know about it, no sense in stoping it, it just shows the power of a good viral campaign, thats in it of it self is interesting.Heather Woytowich said:
As for your points why is it ok to let some get away with something because we didn't know about it sooner? Where is the proof the charity can't be trusted?
And? If he's captured, another will take his spot. And it will take another twenty years to catch that person because they'll hide themselves behind their child soldiers, hindering any effort to get him.
I feel the Rules of Engagement hinder operations more than they help. It's a sanitized version of war to save public face, but all it does is prevent people from doing their jobs. Thousands of child soldiers have been killed under this man, but if any NATO troop was seen killing a kid, it would be a PR disaster.
Even if the entire rebel army was annihilated, children and all, it would at least stop the problem for good, but still tarnish NATO countries' reputations.
Needs of the Many outweigh the needs of the few. But the Rules of Engagement prevent that from being an option.
I feel the Rules of Engagement hinder operations more than they help. It's a sanitized version of war to save public face, but all it does is prevent people from doing their jobs. Thousands of child soldiers have been killed under this man, but if any NATO troop was seen killing a kid, it would be a PR disaster.
Even if the entire rebel army was annihilated, children and all, it would at least stop the problem for good, but still tarnish NATO countries' reputations.
Needs of the Many outweigh the needs of the few. But the Rules of Engagement prevent that from being an option.
Here's some info, although I am doing more research, it's looking grim.drisky said:
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.reviews&orgid=12429
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/22/fraud-in-facebookchase-co_n_433928.html
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/stuart-fl/TQJSGHMES035Q6OI0 (read comments)
http://ilto.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/the-visible-problem-with-invisible-children/
http://tnsonsofliberty.blogspot.com/2010/03/invisible-children-revisted.html
and this stuff doesn't even scrape the surface of KONY. They were frauds before this.
Smells like another hippie thing thats trendy to all the youngs kids. Seriously, I would think that about half the people that support this are only doing this cause they think its cool. I seriously dont give a fuck bout this kony or the people he's killing. Same shit, different day. Does this make me selfish? Yes, but atleast I can admit it.
I'm like 85% sure that Obama has already pointed out this guys an asshole.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-14/africa/world_africa_africa-obama-troops_1_obama-orders-south-sudan-central-african-republic?_s=PM:AFRICA
Sure enough.
If this guy is part of the LRA, that's what they are after >_>.
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-14/africa/world_africa_africa-obama-troops_1_obama-orders-south-sudan-central-african-republic?_s=PM:AFRICA
Sure enough.
If this guy is part of the LRA, that's what they are after >_>.
