Korra Finale Thread (Spoilers Duh)

[KazeAizen]

So wow. Quite the finale there. Where do I even begin? Apparently we can now actually kill people on this show. Those weren't even dignified deaths either. Kind of crappy ways to go actually. Zaheer really is probably one of the best villains of the series and probably one of the coolest villains I've seen in a long time.

Jesus Christ though that ending. Way to be both uplifting and down right tear jerking. Aang may have had a hell of a fight against Ozai but lord poor Korra. Amon, Vatu/Unalok, Zaheer and the Red Lotus. I mean we've seen her beaten before but that. Wow. She looks so broken. To think that Korra of all people could look just that defeated. She looked even worse than when she lost her bending. My only thought at the end of the episode besides when does book 4 come out, was "What's going through your head Korra?" I mean those smiles looked forced as all hell.

Avatar once again proving why its such a damn good show. It took 3 seasons but they finally put Korra in a space where she is her hot headed self but wise and thoughtful and selfless. Just to tear you down there at the end.

So general discussion. Thoughts about where the next book might go. Thoughts on those final Korra scenes. The Zaheer vs. Korra fight or really just all the fights in this season in general. Go for it.

 

[Tanis]

You could always kill people on this show.

The original series had the original 'boom boom' guy go, well, boom the same way.
-By his own boom boom powers I mean.

It's just, instead of a boomerang, a piece of armor was used.
XD

 

[KazeAizen]

You could always kill people on this show.

The original series had the original 'boom boom' guy go, well, boom the same way.
-By his own boom boom powers I mean.

It's just, instead of a boomerang, a piece of armor was used.
XD

I guess what I'm saying is on screen deaths. In the first series we got, from a distance mind you, Roku getting buried alive and then boom boom man just kind of disappears. Nothing quite as violent as say the Earth Queen, P'Li, Amon and Tarllok, etc... see what I'm saying kind of?

 

[Tanis]

I get what you're saying.

Maybe TV has just moved a little more liberal, or that it was a GOOD THING that Korra started to get released digitally?

 

[thejboy88]

This was a great ending. Not only was it as dark as all hell (I means seriously, Zaheer's plan and his way of going about it was as creepy as they get), but it didn't end on an entirely high note, which is always good to see in a kid's show.

 

[KazeAizen]

This was a great ending. Not only was it as dark as all hell (I means seriously, Zaheer's plan and his way of going about it was as creepy as they get), but it didn't end on an entirely high note, which is always good to see in a kid's show.

Also not to mention they blew up someone's head, sucked the oxygen out of another person, electrocuted a person to death, and buried another one alive. Not exactly the best ways to go. I mean I'm willing to bet it wasn't scheduling or ratings bullcrap that kept it on the net only but Nick itself didn't want those things actually aired on TV. Seriously though it would've been awesome if like the last 4 episodes were book ended with Spongebob on both sides. So many emotional scars.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

That was a great end to the strongest season of this series and it's definitely got my attention for the concluding season.

It's bittersweet though. It's really something to see Korra so beaten. But at the same time we see so many characters grow.

I wonder how they handle the issues they brought up at the end, specifically surrounding korras current condition. The poison they used was obviously mercury (or this worlds variant of it) and one of the effects of mercury poisoning is muscular atrophy. Muscles can rebuild of course with time and effort, but depending on the severity of the poisons effect, it can be pretty destructive if not permanent. Considering that the poison was bended directly into her arms and legs I would say the damage is moderate to severe (Mercury poisons on contact,and here it's being applied directly to the muscles and blood stream). Although I think they might have stretched its potential effects for the sake of dramam, considering were dealing with Magically manipulated Poisons on a demi god I think we stretch the "realism" a tad.

Regardless, I hope this isn't some rapid turn around in episode 1 of season 4. This should be the next challenge for korra and possibly the most humbling of her trials yet. I doubt they will do a full season of korra chair bound. I would be completely on board if they did but realistically that would be too much and too heavy a subject matter even for a show as relatively progressive as the Avatar series.

Hopefully they do it tactfully. Even if she recovers it should reflect real people who struggle with such crippling afflictions.

 

[KazeAizen]

That was a great end to the strongest season of this series and it's definitely got my attention for the concluding season.

It's bittersweet though. It's really something to see Korra so beaten. But at the same time we see so many characters grow.

I wonder how they handle the issues they brought up at the end, specifically surrounding korras current condition. The poison they used was obviously mercury (or this worlds variant of it) and one of the effects of mercury poisoning is muscular atrophy. Muscles can rebuild of course with time and effort, but depending on the severity of the poisons effect, it can be pretty destructive if not permanent. Considering that the poison was bended directly into her arms and legs I would say the damage is moderate to severe (Mercury poisons on contact,and here it's being applied directly to the muscles and blood stream). Although I think they might have stretched its potential effects for the sake of dramam, considering were dealing with Magically manipulated Poisons on a demi god I think we stretch the "realism" a tad.

Regardless, I hope this isn't some rapid turn around in episode 1 of season 4. This should be the next challenge for korra and possibly the most humbling of her trials yet. I doubt they will do a full season of korra chair bound. I would be completely on board if they did but realistically that would be too much and too heavy a subject matter even for a show as relatively progressive as the Avatar series.

Hopefully they do it tactfully. Even if she recovers it should reflect real people who struggle with such crippling afflictions.

If in episode 1 she is out of the chair or she gets out of the chair a time skip, hopefully significantly, will have taken place. Also I think the tole on her body might be even greater because of The Avatar State. The creators did say that is why Aang died an early death. Because the Avatar state was keeping him alive in that ice for 100 years and sure that was a long time but that seems less trying than actively fighting an intense battle with Zaheer, while keeping your body alive from an incredibly deadly poison. Wouldn't that be cool though if Korra actually had to get involved with stuff while in the chair and actually made it work. I mean she showed us that even if you put chains on her she ain't going down that easy.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Erethism ain't no joke yo, Korra not being able to use her legs is the least of her worries with that shit (she has mercury poisoning, her legs/spine weren't wounded).


I loved this season, some amazing animation and character building moments, definitely a step up from season 2.

 

[Raggedstar]

Man, season 3 was just SO good, and this finale worked all the angles from intense battles, to absolute gut-punches. It feels like the finale of season 1, but written better with greater consequences.

But aye, all around awesome this season, and I like the challenge of the Avatar's relevance as a general theme for Korra's show. The world is changing, and it's a very real idea that the people may not need the Avatar anymore. Season 1 felt like a decent evolution from the original series but a few too many distractions, season 2 kinda...derped around with a few good moments here and there, and season 3 is continuing said evolution to the next level.

Can't wait for season 4. I don't know how this will affect Korra, but popular fan theory states the poison was a liquid metal (namely mercury) and she's suffering from metal toxicosis. She's showing a lot of symptoms, like muscle atrophy and weakness. It can be treated, but at the same time it can cause a lot of long-term problems. As much as I'm excited for season 4, part of me is worried poor Korra will die of cancer by the end of this

 

[Qwurty2.0]

I thought the first season was okay, I marathoned the second season while playing Crysis all the way through and only really remember the first half (the second half being an awkward Korra-Crysis blend), and hearing/spoiling myself to the ending of the third season, I must watch it!

Nothing like knowing your destination to get you hyped for the ride.

 

[Scarim Coral]

I already mention in the other Korra thread that season 3 is a huge improvement over season 2 and I did liked the bittersweet ending.

As to where season 4 could go, just to be clear these are remour for now-
http://korranews.tumblr.com/post/95596835805/the-legend-of-korra-book-4-facts-and-rumor

If they gonna cliche it, Korra will recover in a deux ex mechania anc back to status quo within the two episode but I feel if they want to do it right, she will recover somehow in a few episode (like 4 or 6?). Yes again however book 4 is probably 13 episodes so one way or another it will be rushed again.

 

[KazeAizen]

I already mention in the other Korra thread that season 3 is a huge improvement over season 2 and I did liked the bittersweet ending.

As to where season 4 could go, just to be clear these are remour for now-
http://korranews.tumblr.com/post/95596835805/the-legend-of-korra-book-4-facts-and-rumor

If they gonna cliche it, Korra will recover in a deux ex mechania anc back to status quo within the two episode but I feel if they want to do it right, she will recover somehow in a few episode (like 4 or 6?). Yes again however book 4 is probably 13 episodes so one way or another it will be rushed again.

If they went the route of her recovering in the first two episodes there is only one way I think it could be justified. That is that a serious amount of time has passed. At least a year, since her battle with Zaheer. Plenty of time to see how the new Air nomads have affected the world and the ramifications of an Avatar still being alive but not being active. If they go the route that it has been a short time and Korra is still wheel chair bound for a few episodes that would be interesting too. I think they'll do it right. The reason season 2 was sloppy was because it was kind of rushed into production and they didn't have as clear a battle plan as they had for season 1 which was meant to be the only entry into Korra's story (thank god it wasn't). Season 4 I think will be just fine.

 

[Shock and Awe]

It was definitely a harsh ending, but it reflects what a real person may go through after the battles are over. We can see that the mercury poisoning(the poison was obviously mercury) has taken it's toll on her muscles and if you extrapolate the bags under her eyes to mercury poisonings side effect of insomnia you can get a pretty good feel for where the show may be going with this. I would not be surprised to see a good time skip or a really down beat first few episodes as she tries to cope with the effects, or tries to find treatment.

In addition I am nearly certain PTSD will become a theme in the next season. Another possible explanation for the lack of sleep is that she is suffering not just physically but psychologically from the traumatic battle. She almost died, almost failed the world by being the end of the avatar cycle, almost lost her father, and countless other loved ones. The costs were almost total, and even in victory they were high.

All and all I expect book to be focused around Healing. Not just Korra's physical and emotional healing, but that of the world. The Earth Kingdom must find some kind of peace and the spirits must find a place in the world. We may see an arc where Korra goes almost the opposite extreme from her former completely physically oriented self and finds strength in the Avatar's spiritual role.

 

[Kopikatsu]

I thought Zaheer was a crazy lame villain. He wasn't strong (soundly defeated by Tenzin and could only stand up to Korra when she was greatly inhibited in some way), his plans failed constantly, and his motives were... well... dumb.

So you kill off the world leaders and let the world descend into chaos! ...Then what? What's the end goal there? What happens if people start to form societies again because they don't like the idea that they could (literally) be stabbed in the back at any moment for any or no reason?

I don't know why they let Zaheer live either. Letting him stick around only means he has the potential to escape again. He proved that he'd never give up any information since he hadn't in the first round of imprisonment and the rest of his team is dead so you may as well finish the job.

 

[IndieGinge]

I thought Zaheer was a crazy lame villain. He wasn't strong (soundly defeated by Tenzin and could only stand up to Korra when she was greatly inhibited in some way), his plans failed constantly, and his motives were... well... dumb.

So you kill off the world leaders and let the world descend into chaos! ...Then what? What's the end goal there? What happens if people start to form societies again because they don't like the idea that they could (literally) be stabbed in the back at any moment for any or no reason?

I don't know why they let Zaheer live either. Letting him stick around only means he has the potential to escape again. He proved that he'd never give up any information since he hadn't in the first round of imprisonment and the rest of his team is dead so you may as well finish the job.

Well Team Avatar isn't the Red Lotus, they'd rather NOT kill people. The members of the Red Lotus were just too dangerous as a group, especially when Korra's life was on the line.

As to Zaheer's motivations, I thought he was based on actual 19-20th century Anarchists. His philosophy is fairly obviously transposing Anarchist ideals into the mind of a crazy, idealistic asshole. And the actions of his organization seems to be a more effective version of what what violent Anarchists attempted to do. Those groups who did resort to domestic terrorism or believed the system was so corrupt that it needed to be torn down, much like Zaheer. It's just when you give Anarchists the power of a god and give them the right conditions (The horrifically corrupt and autocratic Earth Kingdom) they actually can topple a nation. For whatever reason the Anarchists in real life weren't ever so successful. Unless I'm forgetting something important. Gonna be honest I only started reading about Anarchists about 2 days ago. Hope that helped!

 

[KazeAizen]

It was definitely a harsh ending, but it reflects what a real person may go through after the battles are over. We can see that the mercury poisoning(the poison was obviously mercury) has taken it's toll on her muscles and if you extrapolate the bags under her eyes to mercury poisonings side effect of insomnia you can get a pretty good feel for where the show may be going with this. I would not be surprised to see a good time skip or a really down beat first few episodes as she tries to cope with the effects, or tries to find treatment.

In addition I am nearly certain PTSD will become a theme in the next season. Another possible explanation for the lack of sleep is that she is suffering not just physically but psychologically from the traumatic battle. She almost died, almost failed the world by being the end of the avatar cycle, almost lost her father, and countless other loved ones. The costs were almost total, and even in victory they were high.

All and all I expect book to be focused around Healing. Not just Korra's physical and emotional healing, but that of the world. The Earth Kingdom must find some kind of peace and the spirits must find a place in the world. We may see an arc where Korra goes almost the opposite extreme from her former completely physically oriented self and finds strength in the Avatar's spiritual role.

Wow. Don't know why I didn't think about that being a thing too. She might be suffering from PTSD as well. After all the Hell she went through in these three seasons I'd be surprised if she wasn't an alcoholic, if she was legal of course. I know I sure as hell would be. I don't know how many times I've done this but counting up what's she's been through far outweighs most of what happened to Aang in the first series. I mean Aang had rough spots he had one truly low point and a bit of a second one with the Day of Black Sun.

Korra's list:
- Kidnapped and help prisoner by a crazy water bender.
- Had her bending taken away.
- Betrayed by her uncle.
- Losing Ravaa and barely able to stop Vatuu.
- Losing her connection with all her past lives.
- Thought her father was murdered.
- Almost killed by Zaheer.
- Poisoned and severely crippled.
- Constantly being told that she is a relic of an old age that needs to disappear.

I'm surprised she's even sane at this point. I probably would've tagged out a long time ago.

 

[Pinkamena]

I really digged this season. I was surprised at how grim it was compared to the original Avatar and the two preceding seasons. Lots of on-screen or nearly on-screen deaths, horrible situations for Korra, and generally just a lot darker in tone. Luckily there were also happy and funny moments, mainly thanks to Bolin, and I feel they found a good middleground between comedy and serious drama.

All in all;

Spoiler

 

[FPLOON]

Holy shit do I want to see Korra bend her own bones in order to appear like she's okay and/or not needing a wheelchair... only to have her fall a few times with hallucinations leading to potential suicidal thoughts... Sure, all her friends find and take care of all of the remaining Red Lotus, including that one character that "no one" saw coming beforehand, but it all leads up to a climatic physical, metaphorical, and spiritual battle between the Avatar and the world itself that truly sets the stage for how future Avatars would be associated with the modern world at large...

It would be the Season/Book that would truly separate the fans that stuck through this series through thick and thin and those that gave up was seemed to be "too soon" at the time... Now, if only Nick doesn't try to fuck it up in the marketing department...

Anyway, the Book 3 finale was boss, basically any character that did anything during said finale was boss, and get well soon, Korra... because your legend is not yet finish...