Kotick: "Call of Duty is a tribute to our troops."

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thedoclc

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shotgunbadger said:
Aaaaw what this doesn't do veterans justice? Mental children who's first and only response to problems is to shriek racial/homophobic slurs and shoot anything that moves? Sounds perfect to me.
Decrying prejudice while stereotyping millions of men and women in uniform and being able to do so because of the service of those men and women is...I mean, seriously, the hypocrisy is writ so large you need a billboard for it.
 

Agayek

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Bullfrog1983 said:
I dunno... if you're playing aren't you usually killing soldiers? I can't see how that is a salute to veterans.
It's roughly the same kind of "salute to veterans" as any action-oriented War movie is. No more and no less.
 

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shotgunbadger said:
My only issue with this (aside from the million dollars to murderers) is that this will just keep fueling rambo fantasies for children who grow up sociopathic enough to think murder is cool as a job.
To be fair, it's not really murder to kill someone who's shooting at you.
 

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shotgunbadger said:
Is it murder to air strike some dudes carrying cameras and flowers because they look kinda like guns, or kick in a door of a house and blow away a family having dinner because they prayed before hand? Or do you honestly think the only dead are combatants?
Collateral damage and bad decisions are mistakes, and are most certainly murder.

That's not the point though. The military does everything it reasonably can to mitigate civilian casualties, and the basic job description is "kill the dipshits shooting at you". Mistakes are made certainly, and those who commit them should be punished, but the vast majority of soldiers don't, or at the very least "haven't yet", made them.
 

thedoclc

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shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
The donation is a good thing, regardless of motives.

As a veteran, I'm moderately vexed not by the game or its content, but by the temerity of draping yourself in the flag to sell a game. Thanks for the donation, Mr. K, but would you mind not using the sacrifices of your fellow citizens as a means pitch a product? You may have the right to do so, bought and paid for by those same people, but it's just distasteful and makes you look like a shameful opportunist.
WE PAID FOR YOUR RIGHT TO BE GREEDY BY MURDERING SO MANY BROWN PEOPLE, HOW DARE YOU DISHONOR US!
Actually, if you must know, I can honestly say I provided emergency treatment which saved dozens of lives, flew medical evacuations of civilian populations wounded by accidents unrelated to the fighting over hundreds of miles of dangerous terrain, distributed medicines to people who were beyond the reach of any non-government international aid body, helped establish a field clinic serving locals who had no doctors anywhere, and drove through hostile territory to deliver donations of medical supplies to folks who could not cross the landscape due to their illnesses and injuries. Under enemy fire, I picked up a wounded farmer whose leg had been broken in a farming accident and pulled him to safety. I've seen men murdered for letting American save their wives from being shot in tribal fighting (again, unrelated to us). I've cleaned the wounds of hundreds of civilians who needed medical attention, again, not because of the war, but due to the rough nature of third world living.

Please list all of the services you've provided to brown people here:

...?
 

Motiv_

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shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
The donation is a good thing, regardless of motives.

As a veteran, I'm moderately vexed not by the game or its content, but by the temerity of draping yourself in the flag to sell a game. Thanks for the donation, Mr. K, but would you mind not using the sacrifices of your fellow citizens as a means pitch a product? You may have the right to do so, bought and paid for by those same people, but it's just distasteful and makes you look like a shameful opportunist.
WE PAID FOR YOUR RIGHT TO BE GREEDY BY MURDERING SO MANY BROWN PEOPLE, HOW DARE YOU DISHONOR US!
Actually, if you must know, I can honestly say I provided emergency treatment which saved dozens of lives, flew medical evacuations of civilian populations wounded by accidents unrelated to the fighting over hundreds of miles of dangerous terrain, distributed medicines to people who were beyond the reach of any non-government international aid body, helped establish a field clinic serving locals who had no doctors anywhere, and drove through hostile territory to deliver donations of medical supplies to folks who could not cross the landscape due to their illnesses and injuries. Under enemy fire, I picked up a wounded farmer whose leg had been broken in a farming accident and pulled him to safety. I've seen men murdered for letting American save their wives from being shot in tribal fighting (again, unrelated to us). I've cleaned the wounds of hundreds of civilians who needed medical attention, again, not because of the war, but due to the rough nature of third world living.

Please list all of the services you've provided to brown people here:

...?
And you did it all while your peers were encouraging tribal warlords to turn in rivals as 'terrorists', propping up Karzi who worked out so well as a puppet didn't he, and shooting unarmed children who 'look suspicious' but it's ok you built a (christian) school for them later.

You are just as guilty as them for being a part of the complex, you don't redeem your soul by using evil as a tool to help.
Please state your source that has proof that the US military committed or sanctioned the murder of children.
 

archvile93

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TerribleAssassin said:
Straying Bullet said:
1. The man cares only about money.
2. The man is an utter and complete retard.
3. The man is a suit. There is nothing good about this fellow if you ask me. The Devil Incarnate
4. The man is achieving to send delusional idiots that play CoD massivily into the Army
thinking war is cool. Obviously never played Arma/Operation Flashpoint.
5. This man's head is shoved into his ass so much he will smell his own bullshit and believe in it as well.
Or watch "All quiet on the Western Front" or "Full Metal Jacket"

and also, his donation may have done some good, but it's more likely a way to advertise Black Ops some more.
And a tax break, don't forget the tax break.

OT: Yeah, I don't what he's talking about. He can't honestly believe his own words, can he? I know I don't believe anything he says.
 

thedoclc

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shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
*snip*
*snip*

Please list all of the services you've provided to brown people here:

...?
And you did it all while your peers were encouraging tribal warlords to turn in rivals as 'terrorists', propping up Karzi who worked out so well as a puppet didn't he, and shooting unarmed children who 'look suspicious' but it's ok you built a (christian) school for them later.

You are just as guilty as them for being a part of the complex, you don't redeem your soul by using evil as a tool to help.
Love the personal insults. I also love the refusal to answer the question. The silence speaks much louder than words. As for the melodrama of "redeeming souls," all I can say is wow.
 

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shotgunbadger said:
SlainPwner666 said:
shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
The donation is a good thing, regardless of motives.

As a veteran, I'm moderately vexed not by the game or its content, but by the temerity of draping yourself in the flag to sell a game. Thanks for the donation, Mr. K, but would you mind not using the sacrifices of your fellow citizens as a means pitch a product? You may have the right to do so, bought and paid for by those same people, but it's just distasteful and makes you look like a shameful opportunist.
WE PAID FOR YOUR RIGHT TO BE GREEDY BY MURDERING SO MANY BROWN PEOPLE, HOW DARE YOU DISHONOR US!
Actually, if you must know, I can honestly say I provided emergency treatment which saved dozens of lives, flew medical evacuations of civilian populations wounded by accidents unrelated to the fighting over hundreds of miles of dangerous terrain, distributed medicines to people who were beyond the reach of any non-government international aid body, helped establish a field clinic serving locals who had no doctors anywhere, and drove through hostile territory to deliver donations of medical supplies to folks who could not cross the landscape due to their illnesses and injuries. Under enemy fire, I picked up a wounded farmer whose leg had been broken in a farming accident and pulled him to safety. I've seen men murdered for letting American save their wives from being shot in tribal fighting (again, unrelated to us). I've cleaned the wounds of hundreds of civilians who needed medical attention, again, not because of the war, but due to the rough nature of third world living.

Please list all of the services you've provided to brown people here:

...?
And you did it all while your peers were encouraging tribal warlords to turn in rivals as 'terrorists', propping up Karzi who worked out so well as a puppet didn't he, and shooting unarmed children who 'look suspicious' but it's ok you built a (christian) school for them later.

You are just as guilty as them for being a part of the complex, you don't redeem your soul by using evil as a tool to help.
Please state your source that has proof that the US military committed or sanctioned the murder of children.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=71097

cry some more about your noble soldiers, you're all worse then the Taliban ever could be.
This is the same website that has a photoshopped picture of former president Bush sitting in front of someone being waterboarded, holding a bucket of popcorn. In fact, now that I look, every single article on this website is doing nothing more then talking about how absolutely evil the US is, and how wonderful the Iraqi are for resisting them. In fact it's banner proudly proclaims "Information from the middle east".

This appears to be nothing more than a propaganda website. Y'know, the same thing you're accusing the US of doing. A very trustworthy source for quoting.

Just so you know, I agree with you that the Taliban are a far cry from the devil worshiping baby rapists that many people proclaim them to be, they're simple farmers and shop owners who're trying to defend their country and religion from Western expansion. I get all that.

But I also know that you're blatantly lying when you say that US soldiers have been told to shoot first and ask questions later, and getting all your facts on the war from a website with a pretty obvious anti-US slant is no way to establish credibility.
 

Motiv_

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shotgunbadger said:
SlainPwner666 said:
shotgunbadger said:
SlainPwner666 said:
shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
shotgunbadger said:
thedoclc said:
The donation is a good thing, regardless of motives.

As a veteran, I'm moderately vexed not by the game or its content, but by the temerity of draping yourself in the flag to sell a game. Thanks for the donation, Mr. K, but would you mind not using the sacrifices of your fellow citizens as a means pitch a product? You may have the right to do so, bought and paid for by those same people, but it's just distasteful and makes you look like a shameful opportunist.
WE PAID FOR YOUR RIGHT TO BE GREEDY BY MURDERING SO MANY BROWN PEOPLE, HOW DARE YOU DISHONOR US!
Actually, if you must know, I can honestly say I provided emergency treatment which saved dozens of lives, flew medical evacuations of civilian populations wounded by accidents unrelated to the fighting over hundreds of miles of dangerous terrain, distributed medicines to people who were beyond the reach of any non-government international aid body, helped establish a field clinic serving locals who had no doctors anywhere, and drove through hostile territory to deliver donations of medical supplies to folks who could not cross the landscape due to their illnesses and injuries. Under enemy fire, I picked up a wounded farmer whose leg had been broken in a farming accident and pulled him to safety. I've seen men murdered for letting American save their wives from being shot in tribal fighting (again, unrelated to us). I've cleaned the wounds of hundreds of civilians who needed medical attention, again, not because of the war, but due to the rough nature of third world living.

Please list all of the services you've provided to brown people here:

...?
And you did it all while your peers were encouraging tribal warlords to turn in rivals as 'terrorists', propping up Karzi who worked out so well as a puppet didn't he, and shooting unarmed children who 'look suspicious' but it's ok you built a (christian) school for them later.

You are just as guilty as them for being a part of the complex, you don't redeem your soul by using evil as a tool to help.
Please state your source that has proof that the US military committed or sanctioned the murder of children.
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=71097

cry some more about your noble soldiers, you're all worse then the Taliban ever could be.
This is the same website that has a photoshopped picture of former president Bush sitting in front of someone being waterboarded, holding a bucket of popcorn. In fact, now that I look, every single article on this website is doing nothing more then talking about how absolutely evil the US is, and how wonderful the Iraqi are for resisting them. In fact it's banner proudly proclaims "Information from the middle east".

This appears to be nothing more than a propaganda website. Y'know, the same thing you're accusing the US of doing. A very trustworthy source for quoting.

Just so you know, I agree with you that the Taliban are a far cry from the devil worshiping baby rapists that many people proclaim them to be, they're simple farmers and shop owners who're trying to defend their country and religion from Western expansion. I get all that.

But I also know that you're blatantly lying when you say that US soldiers have been told to shoot first and ask questions later, and getting all your facts on the war from a website with a pretty obvious anti-US slant is no way to establish credibility.
The photoshop was a joke, unless you honestly think they were trying to say Bush watched with popcorn, they were making a joke that he is fully aware of the torture he sanctioned and doesn't care.

I like how it saying it's 'information from the middle east' is a factor of you calling it propaganda. "People from the area reporting on the issue?! PROPAGANDA! LIIIIES!" I have bad news, there's no untruth there, if you only see the US as bad...well that's just the basic fact.
I get that the photo was fake, but when you honestly post that as part of an article, especially if you call yourself a "Journalist", then you lose quite a deal of credibility, making you more of a tabloid then anything else. Hell, you don't see newspapers over here printing pictures of a taliban eating a baby, now do you?

I probably should've phrased that better.

In Afghanistan, you can be stoned to death for so much as accepting aid from US soldiers or telling them which way to go down the street. Do you honestly think that the news over there has any real credibility? No, it doesn't. They print what they're told to print, if they don't, they die. But blindly accepting something a random website posts, without any checks to it's credibility, makes you just as bad as the fellows over here who shout "OBAMA CAN DO NO WRONG, OUR SOLDIERS ARE DOING THEIR BEST".

No, this war is a joke. Why we're over there is a joke. Do I agree with any part of this war? Nope, not in the slighest. Do I deny that there weren't civilian shootings or a soldier stealing or raping someone? Nope, read about it all the time over here too.

But taking one or two examples of soliders who're fucked up in the head [I personally blame the Army taking anyone who wants to sign up, regardless of mental health] and applying it to the entire army, like so

you're all worse then the Taliban ever could be
Just makes you look brainwashed and makes me feel like an arrogant prick defending thousands of people I've never met. It'd be like seeing several videos of black men robbing stores and saying "OH MY GOD ALL BLACKS ARE CRIMINALS"

Mind you, I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I'm actually on your side about the whole "Higher Ups" thing. But it's your way of presenting information that I disagree with.
 

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shotgunbadger said:
No taliban in MoH either, a bunch of whiny babies made them change it to 'opposition force' to further dehumanize the wicked browns that dare stand up against our noble white crusaders.
What I don't get is how MoH gets called insensitive or offensive for using the word "taliban" when in other shooters we have nazi zombies and Mecha Hitler. Surely those are more offensive to the memory of fallen soldiers than MoH was ever going to be.
 

Wolfenbarg

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A lot of people don't seem to realize that a lot of times big moneybags types are the ones who contribute the largest single donations to charities, and it's not just out of the goodness of their hearts. There are lots of incentives to do so, so they do. We've even got a capitalistic way of running charities, but it works well all things considered. So it doesn't matter a lick WHY they donated, it just matters that they did.