kotor 1 vs kotor 2

[Delsana]

2 but don't get TSLRCM...

It ruined it with SO MUCH additional content and crap and difficult mass-enemy fights that it just got tiresome. I'm not even sure the HK Factory was worth it.

 

[Wayneguard]

Thats debatable. KOTOR 2's story is unfinished unless you mod it, and KOTOR 1's story is far superior.

Ha! Apart from the plot-twist, the original KOTOR's story is your standard Good vs Evil Star Wars space opera.

KOTOR II's story wasn't that unfinished. More importantly, it was an incredible deconstruction of both the Star Wars mythos and RPG tropes, and had some of the deepest, most morally ambiguous characters in any Star Wars story.

You may like KOTOR's campy story over KOTOR II's brooding tale, and that's fine. But one is significantly less hackneyed and cliched than the other, and it's not the original.

You hit the nail on the head. Through Kreia, the writers forced you to question everything you knew about Jedi, Sith, the Force, good and evil. Kotor 2 has the most mature (I would say the overall best) story of any of the Bioware/Obsidian games. OT: I prefer kotor 2 just because of the depth of the story. Very, very good addition to star wars canon... and yes... it is fucking canon regardless of what lucasarts may try to retcon in the future.

 

[FilipJPhry]

I actually think(Please don't fling anyting in my way) that KoToR 2 is the superior game. I found the story more compelling, the characters more likeable and the level-up system way better than KoTOR 1. If anything, I would play it again than KoTOR 1.

 

[AD-Stu]

2 but don't get TSLRCM...

It ruined it with SO MUCH additional content and crap and difficult mass-enemy fights that it just got tiresome. I'm not even sure the HK Factory was worth it.

I dunno if a definitive answer was ever found for why the HK factory was cut, but after playing the game with it reinserted I figured it was cut for pacing reasons as much as anything else. It looks like the level was largely completed (as opposed to something like the droid planet, which obviously wasn't even close) but it slowed the third act of the game down way too much - you're finally building pace heading towards the climactic final battles and then BANG, the story skips sideways for two hours of frustrating blaster combat and meatbag jokes.

 

[TheCowman]

To use another franchise, consider the Batman comics. For years and years, the comics presented him as a darkly dressed but otherwise cheery force for justice and the general good,

Well sure, except for the fact that when he was first introduced he regularly shot criminals.


With a gun.




As for KOTOR; I rather enjoyed Bioware's well done, if a bit cliched/classic storyline. When I want heavy "shades of gray" choices and morally ambiguous plots, I generally don't go to Star Wars to get them. I've always felt that Star Wars worked best in the tone it was conceived in. In other words, the movie serials and mythic stories that inspired it.

Overthinking Star Wars too much leads to midichlorians.


And that's nothing against KOTOR 2. I played it all the way through at least twice and actually never had much of a problem with bugs. And I did like how you had a little more wiggle room in convincing your companions to see things your way.

But when approaching Star Wars, I prefer the mythic/high adventure type stories. Just my personal preference.

Also, I might be forgetting some things, but I don't think KOTOR 2 had as many consequences for playing an evil character as KOTOR did. I suppose that's inevitable with it's grayer moral scale and that you've pretty much molded your companions in your own image by the end of the game.

But in KOTOR, if you go the evil route, you MURDER almost half of your companions. Heck, you can mind control the wookie to kill his little girl best friend.

I mean..... DAMN!!

During my obligatory evil run through, I actually had to stop playing for a few minutes after that.

That is some COLD shit.