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I wouldn't say it is the best as people can have varying opinions but there is one thing ti does well. It doesn't ruin the magic of the original films. It keeps in the same feel and style of the original films well at least I think it does. This is what helps it work as a game.
 

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Strong story providing excellent background on the ancient history of the franchise's storyline , plus a whole new kind of fun different from other star wars games.
 

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Basically, after being abysmally disappointed by the Star Wars prequels, KOTOR is what made me fall in love with Star Wars all over again.
 

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No_Remainders said:
Acidwell said:
The witcher is also good but if you like star wars at all this is the one to go for.
Ok. The Witcher for 4 euro or KotOR for 4.50?

I'll lay down some background. I'm a fan of Star Wars, but I wouldn't be the type who enjoys reading too much into it. I mean, the movies were fun (the original trilogy that is, and I guess Phantom Menace was ok...) but apart from that I don't really pay much attention to it.

I know this deviates from the original post, but in regards to The Witcher, what's the gameplay like?
I'd say, since they are both so cheap, buy them all. They're both great games in my opinion.

KotOR - A bit old, but it won't hurt your eyes. It has some great characters (Jolee Bindo!), stellar voice acting and dialogs, decent gameplay, and the plot twist coming somewhere in 3/4 of the game is considered one of the best in history. The only thing I didn't like about it, is the fact, that non-Jedi team characters quickly become useless. Makes sense, since Jedi are so powerful, but on the other hand it's a pity, that you'll miss a lot of great dialogs with, say, HK-47, just because Bastila and Jolee are so much better gameplay-wise.

Pro tip: invest in force lighting no matter what side you play as. It's amazingly powerful after the first upgrade (not to mention the final one), and it's incredibly fun to use.

The Witcher - Some people complain about the main character, because he's quite an asshole. Some people complain, because the combat is a bit different than in other games (you have to time your clicks to proceed with the combo, and you have to switch between 3 battle stances depending on what kind of enemy you face), but I actually liked those. Geralt is spot on with himself from The Witcher novels, so I wouldn't want him any other way, and the combat feels refreshing after playing hundreds of games with 'click the enemy to death' combat.

Where The Witcher shines, is the good story with choices that really makes you feel that it's indeed YOU who shape it - you decided to burn the witch in the 1st act? Pity, she could've help you find the solution for one problem in 5th act. Now you have to find the alternative way. You decided to upset the girl, by NOT changing her boyfriend back from being a werewolf, because he actually likes it? Well, guess what, the werewolf himself will jump out to help you in a tight spot some time later. And that's only two of many situations like that.

Besides, The Witcher destroys the 'Light side/dark side' style of play. Whatever is the situation you'll encounter - it's never black or white. It's always grey. Order of the Flaming Rose? Fanatics and racists, but they actually make a good work at keeping the town peaceful if you're a good citizen, and they do have some good points in their doctrine. The Sco'iatel? Bunch of assholes and terrorists, but their cause to do so is justified - they fight back against the persecution. Helping any of those (or not helping anyone at all!) will always have some different pros and cons.

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TL;DR: Both games are worth buying. I suggest checking out KotOR first, since it's a classic, but don't give up on The Witcher, it's worth playing as well.
 

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If you are any fan of the Star Wars universe you will love it. I enjoyed it a lot and I usually don't finish every game I buy.
 

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Get KotOR and then don't level up your main character above level 2 (which the tutorial forces on you) until you become a Jedi about 1/4 of the way into the game. It's difficult at times (winning the arena requires some creative thinking when so drastically underlevelled), but it means that as soon as you gain your jedi class you can dump all that XP you saved into a useful class as opposed to your pointless starting class. Becoming a lvl 18 jedi by the end is great fun.
 

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Yossarian1507 said:
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Yeah, I think what I'll probably do is get The Witcher today (as it's on special sale) and then get KotOR if it goes on proper sale at any stage, and if it doesn't, just get it at the end of the sales.
 

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No_Remainders said:
Nimcha said:
Well to be fair I did give up fairly quickly after trying to see if it would run in Win XP mode. :p There's bound to be some simple reason why it won't work that I'm overlooking.
Probably... I might just get The Witcher instead. After all, I doubt that'll have any trouble running on Windows 7...

I'm amazingly lazy when it comes to trying to sort things out :p

I had a better gfx card sitting around for exactly 4 months before I actually installed it :p
I have Windows 7, and it worked fine. I had one bug, when I couldn't approach one container, but that is all. There is an awesome plot twist, the characters are great and some of the speech options are hilarious.

The combat system might not appeal to everyone, as everything is done by dice rolls, instead of your own skill, but I preferred it.
 
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No_Remainders said:
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it's an RPG set in the world of Star Wars, isn't that kinda cool? If not, maybe the game just isn't for you.
Yeah, it is a bit... But still, I tend to take any critic's reviews with a pinch of salt.

A very, very big pinch... More of a handful. I prefer hearing other gamers' opinions on the matter, as opposed to people who get paid to review them.
Okay, well the game itself is good. The story is thick and the characters are pretty real. I'll not get into the story but all you need to know is that you will want to progress to find out more. Each character you come across to include in your party has their own back story and some have their problems. As you play the game with them in your group you can find out about them and improve your relationship with them or destroy it, so if you can get into a game and be immersed then you'll really start to connect.

The fighting uses D&D system that allows you to plot out your attacks based on your skill level for different things. You can also pause the game (which the game will do on seeing a hostile target) to set out your next few attacks and powers.

The moral system is sith and jedi based, with obvious good and bad choices. However, you still need to make difficult decisions. They aren't all good or bad, they're what you want to do. Do you want to work for those credits bit by mediocre bit or do you want to scare the bloke into giving you what you want so that you can help the galaxy? Do you want to help out a bunch of little rascals because they did nothing wrong or do you want to kill them and cash in on their deaths so you can upgrade your armour? They aren't all money based but it's decisions like those.

Then you have the actual system of being good or bad. The Sith have some damn good powers for attacking and getting things out the way, but the Jedi have some awesome powers for keeping you alive. But, you use up your force more for using Sith powers if you're a Jedi and vice versa, so there's that decision to make and then factor in to your moral choices.

The only issue I had with the game was some of the battles. There isn't a right or wrong character build, but with customisation and difficult choices in abundance, there are difficult ones. I'm currently stuck at the ending with a pretty difficult battle to complete with no turning back. It's something that comes with all RPG games with customised classes.

But even if you don't like it, it's only £4.50 (consider that Pound sign a Euro sign, I don't have one on my keyboard) and it is well worth it. Also apologies if I've ruined any part of the game for you, I stayed away from the spectacular story so I didn't spoil it for you.

No_Remainders said:
Nimcha said:
It's one of my favourite games ever, all the reasons why have already been mentioned I think.

However, when I tried to run it on Windows 7 a few months ago, it wouldn't go past the start screen for some reason. :/
Thanks for the warning.
I'm on Win7. Should probably look around to see if that's common or just once off.
Also, I run Windows 7 and I can run it just fine. I think I might have had an issue at the start with it not running or some such thing but I'm not even sure it happened. It runs just fine all the time with me and I play loads of old games on Win7, there usually is a fix on the Steam forums anyway for old games being played on Win7. That's how I got Fallout 2 to work without having a rainbow colour palette.
 

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It's Baldur's Gate in full 3D with Jedi.

or to be more accurate nowadays:

It's a primitive DA:O in the Star Wars universe.

The story is honestly the best I'd ever seen when I first played the game, but it's Bioware after all. The interface and controls are a bit clunky on the PC as it's obviously designed for consoles and ported. Decently balanced with few exceptions regarding skill choice. (Burst of Speed lvl 3 is OP, as is Force Storm)

Other than that, I mean it's an excellent game for its time and has aged much better than most of its peers.
 

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Nimcha said:
It's one of my favourite games ever, all the reasons why have already been mentioned I think.

However, when I tried to run it on Windows 7 a few months ago, it wouldn't go past the start screen for some reason. :/
Oh frell I just got a new PC with Windows 7, I was going to make a Dark Side, Force Power spamming gunslinger. Won't be happening then.
 

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Because it combines all the cool stuff about Star Wars (Lightsabers, driods, wookies) with a halfway decent story not written by Lucas
 

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No_Remainders said:
Nimcha said:
It's one of my favourite games ever, all the reasons why have already been mentioned I think.

However, when I tried to run it on Windows 7 a few months ago, it wouldn't go past the start screen for some reason. :/
Thanks for the warning.
I'm on Win7. Should probably look around to see if that's common or just once off.
I have windows 7 with steam and I don't have much problems with it
 

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Get KotOR. Seriously, at that kind of price point there's a fair chance it'll be the best purchase you ever make. Even now, eight years on, KotOR is still my second favourite game of all time - the first being Mass Effect 2. Though, if BioWare were to make a proper KotOR 3 with modern graphics, a Mass Effect-like dialogue system, and a slightly refined combat system, I suspect that game would reclaim KotOR's number one spot.

Seriously, buy it. You will not regret your decision.
 

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Because it has one of the most brilliant plot twists ever about 3/4 of the way into the game. Seriously, I had the twist spoiled for me a long time before I ever even got the game and the way the game handled it still made it AWESOME.

I'm playing through the second one now. It's based on the same engine so if you find the first one good, you'll likely like the second one too.
 

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I love RPG's and hated KOTOR.

I think the big thing for me was that turn based combat blows. Why can't I dock behind cover or play smart? Your combat system is literally click enemy and then watch.