Lady Gaga blocks Weird Al parody...after considerable expense is spent recording it. (UPDATE)

Recommended Videos

A Distant Star

New member
Feb 15, 2008
193
0
0
According Yankovic Gaga wasnt the one making the decisions here.

"Gaga?s manager has now admitted that he never forwarded my parody to Gaga ? she had no idea at all. Even though we assumed that Gaga herself was the one making the decision (because, well, that?s what we were TOLD), he apparently made the decision completely on his own....I knew it!"

So Gagas not the ***** here, her managers just a disingenuous douche.

http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/58553666.html
 

A Distant Star

New member
Feb 15, 2008
193
0
0
Soylent Bacon said:
Good news:

Gaga didn't turn it down. Her manager did. She heard the song and approves.

Weird Al's blog thingy about the situation [http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/2011/04/20/gaga-update/]
Curse you Soylent Bacon!

No one beats me to the punch!
 

Sniper Team 4

New member
Apr 28, 2010
5,433
0
0
You deny Weird Al, the nerds of the world will deny you. I love how the TMZ article makes it sound like Weird Al is the bad guy here. Guess which side their on?
 

RaikuFA

New member
Jun 12, 2009
4,370
0
0
Macgyvercas said:
I never understood why Al asks for permission to parody anyway. Parody is protected under fair use.
mainly to respect the artist

and if its true that her manager denied it and not her, then he needs to be fired. he basically threw her under the bus with those articles makinging her look like an ass, then did a barrell roll to save herself from the bus. hes giving her bad publicity doing stuff like this. hell i dont care if her manager is Brian Epstein, Danny Fields or Charles Foster Offdensen. thats just asking for your artist to fail if you pull crap like this and make it look like the artist said it
 

Hamster at Dawn

It's Hazard Time!
Mar 19, 2008
1,650
0
0
Hey it wasn't Gaga's fault, unless you count her hiring a shitty manager. She actually seems to be a fairly cool person even if a bit of an attention whore, no need to hate.
 

Nouw

New member
Mar 18, 2009
15,615
0
0
That's a pretty hilarious parody, wonder why she didn't 'approve' of it >.>
 

tjcross

New member
Apr 14, 2008
342
0
0
Generic Gamer said:
Honestly if you spend a career taking the piss out of other artists then you'll get dicked on occasionally.

Yeah, I know he's good natured about it and all but it's only harmless fun if you both agree.

Also releasing it anyway was pretty fucking petulant.
yea and her having him RECORD THE SONG WITH MUSIC for her was a fucking ***** move and it made him cut his vacation with his daughter short and it falls under fair use you tool so he can legally release it as to make the time and money he was made to waste (due to him giving the benefit of the doubt) a bit more valuable.
 

flagship

New member
Feb 5, 2011
97
0
0
Flimsii said:
MiracleOfSound said:
Virgil said:
CM156 said:
Might want to grab it while you can
He'll post the MP3s as well. He's done it in the past - for example, with You're Pitiful [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You%27re_Pitiful].

He's legally allowed to release them - parody is a long-standing fair use exception to copyright - he just chooses not to sell them unless he gets permission. Normally he doesn't even make them until he gets permission, but in the rare exceptions he's had no problem releasing them for free.
Seems like a dick move on his behalf. Why does this musical moral code of his not apply to Youtube and MP3s?
I think its the SELLING their songs parody bit that he wants permission for and i can see why, he would be making a profit adapting someone elses work. As for releasing it free look at it this way, i could do a dubstep remix of born this way and solong as i didnt profit i wouldnt break copyright.
As a parody he isn't breaking US copyright, however he refuses to profit from his work unless he gets permission. He's been doing to this way since the 80s when he started covering Madonna and Micheal Jackson songs.
 

Azure-Supernova

La-li-lu-le-lo!
Aug 5, 2009
3,024
0
0
MiracleOfSound said:
I prefer musicians who write their own melodies.
You're missing the point. His primary concern is comedy, then wit and then music. He isn't selling the melody of the song, he's selling his comedy, often with lyrics relevant to the original. He does on the off ocassion write his own melodies for little skits on his albums and live shows.

The point is that if you're complaining about him 'stealing' melodies then you're missing the point of Weird Al.

You're a good musician and I like your contributions. It just sounds like you've kinda missed the point of Weird Al in favour of musicians pride. You can't deny the man for props for actually asking permission to sell the song even though he could have anyway. Just look at the hundreds of youtube parody channels that are popular for their parodies and earn cash from add revenues. I wonder how many of them have permission?
 

MiracleOfSound

Fight like a Krogan
Jan 3, 2009
17,776
0
0
Azure-Supernova said:
[
You're a good musician and I like your contributions. It just sounds like you've kinda missed the point of Weird Al in favour of musicians pride. You can't deny the man for props for actually asking permission to sell the song even though he could have anyway. Just look at the hundreds of youtube parody channels that are popular for their parodies and earn cash from add revenues. I wonder how many of them have permission?
None... and that makes me sad to be honest. The original writer making nothing from people using a hook and melody they spent possibly days/weeks creating? Doesn't sit right with me at all I'm afraid.
 

MiracleOfSound

Fight like a Krogan
Jan 3, 2009
17,776
0
0
WilliamRLBaker said:
um it doesn't take time and money? rightttt Please stop acting like a music N*** like you've been doing the entire thread and read what your posting any creative material *and weird al is one of the most creative* takes alot of time and money to produce specially when you postpone album release for a song.
He takes other peoples' songs, productions and arrangements.

He puts his own lyrics over them.

Anyone can do this.

It is shit simple and takes under a day to produce/record. This is coming from someone who has been recording/mixing/producing for over a decade.

All the hard work (coming up with catchy hooks and melodies, arranging instruments, making patterns, organising and producing what instruments, harmonies etc go where, what parts fit in wherever in the mix)) is done for him by someone else...

I am a music nerd - and proud of it. I will stand up for any musician who creates something good, that someone else feels they can just rip off to their heart's content.
 

MiracleOfSound

Fight like a Krogan
Jan 3, 2009
17,776
0
0
Generic Gamer said:
No need to be rude you know, though I don't mind being called a tool. being a tool implies I am fantastic at taking the piss and bring pleasure to myself and others. You have brought sarcasm, I believe of the two I would choose pleasure so that works out well.

Now, I believe the problem here is that she said she wanted to hear it if she was going to judge it. She didn't make him record it, she made him record it if he wanted her approval. Massive difference, he was perfectly able to back out whenever he wanted to, no one made him do all this except himself. At any point he could have stopped and the whole reason he recorded it was to allow her to say yes or no.

Well she said no. well within her rights, all perfectly above board. He put it out in to the world anyway, perfectly within his rights, all perfectly above board too. The bit I don't like is that he makes it a personal policy not to release songs without approval, I don't think he'd have released this except to take a cheap shot at her and to remind her that asking her was a formality.

Well my problem is that he was playing by optional rules. You either ask people and respect that, or you tell them where to stick it and just do it. Saying they've got a say in it and then disregarding their say when you don't like it is just dishonourable. It's kind of like if I said you could tell me whether you wanted me to give you money but I will only accept 'no' as an answer. It's fair, legal and within rights but it's not nice. I wouldn't mind so much if he did it for a good reason because we all bend our morals for good causes now and again but he released it anyway because fuck her basically. He released it because he resented her saying he couldn't use her music when she'd made it clear she may say that and what's more he's give her the choice in the first place.

Just doesn't sit right is all, that's not a personality I'd trust. Probably heat of the moment but still.
Exactly. I agree 100%. He's made himself into the hypocrite here.

As I said earlier, she was right to ask to hear it first... the tone and style in which a song is sung can greatly alter and effect how the lyrics are interpreted.
 

game-lover

New member
Dec 1, 2010
1,447
1
0
So...

Has anyone caught the update that Weird Al put in the description of the song?

Lady GaGa has approved commercial release now. He even gave the date of when we can expect the record.

All has been reconciled!
 

Nihilism_Is_Bliss

New member
Oct 27, 2009
496
0
0
Well obviously Gaga has no conviction in her own lyrics.

And thinks she's the shit.

Seriously how highly do you have to think of yourself to push somebody around that much?
 

tomtom94

aka "Who?"
May 11, 2009
3,373
0
0
This is weird. For a start, the messages that he got back were "She needs to hear it", so once again it appears record labels take matters into their own hands.