Large Hadron Collider Could Be World's First Time Machine
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People crying butterfly effect are operating on the theory that time is linear.
Time is just a theory, and there are many theories as to how it acts or if it exists at all. So I guess this is possible, albeit kind of ridiculous.
It seems like the LHC is just a shiny toy people say "it COULD do this!" Then somehow fail to prove it. It hasn't even done its intended job yet.
Time is just a theory, and there are many theories as to how it acts or if it exists at all. So I guess this is possible, albeit kind of ridiculous.
It seems like the LHC is just a shiny toy people say "it COULD do this!" Then somehow fail to prove it. It hasn't even done its intended job yet.
I think technically it could already be seen as a time machine. One way of course. Since time is relative at the speeds they accelerate particles to they're traveling in time since time to them would slow down. It's like that theory about the really fast space ship travelling at 99% the speed of light for ten years. By the time it came back it'd be something like a hundred years in the future and the people on board would have only aged ten.
Yes. They actually sent an atomic clock on a space ship one time and measured the difference between the time that was given by that atomic clock and one that remained stationary during that time. There was a difference of one billionth of a second, but there was a difference. Relativity theory still holds (see: time dilation).SomEngangVar said:
How about this...They have sent a message from the future, but we haven't found it yet? 
It's in the clouds!
Personally, I'm very sceptical about time travel and it comes down to "I'll believe it when I see it" If that is at all possible.
It's in the clouds!
Personally, I'm very sceptical about time travel and it comes down to "I'll believe it when I see it" If that is at all possible.
For some reason the picture made me think of the inside of bumble bee's gun from the transformers movies, looks kinda like that.
Eugh. And how would 1941 POSSIBLY understand a message sent with an undetectable partical? Only since recognised and not even PRODUCED yet with a piece of experimental technology. You CANNOT send messages further back than the SECOND we have a system to actually understand the messages.this isnt my name said:
We discussed the idea of time travel in a phillosophy lecture a while back, most of agreed that you could travel forward in time (By moving really really fast) but you couldn't go back in time, that you instead move sideways in time to a parallel universe that is created when you attempt to travel back in time. So you could do the whole "Go back and kill Hitler" thing, but it wouldn't affect our world.
I think we're looking at this on a bigger level than we should. These are atoms. So of course Time travel isn't something they're saying is possible for huge masses of atoms like us, but what if the scientists could communicate with themselves?
What I mean by this is just what was said in the article; making it a mailbox. What if they found a way to send a message on a particle back in time. The people who sent it to themselves in the past could then read the message that has answers to hangups on their project that took their future selves vast amounts of time to decipher while working on the LHC.
So they send themselves this solution and that part of the project is completed sooner, and the past scientist develop the theory from the article sooner. See where I'm going with this?
Efficiency increases that stack over "time". What merit this could have I don't know but it's an interesting idea none the less.
What I mean by this is just what was said in the article; making it a mailbox. What if they found a way to send a message on a particle back in time. The people who sent it to themselves in the past could then read the message that has answers to hangups on their project that took their future selves vast amounts of time to decipher while working on the LHC.
So they send themselves this solution and that part of the project is completed sooner, and the past scientist develop the theory from the article sooner. See where I'm going with this?
Efficiency increases that stack over "time". What merit this could have I don't know but it's an interesting idea none the less.
Maybe we haven't received any messages from the future because the world really is going to end next year...
Naaah!
OT: Things I would send my past self...
To my 12 year old self...
"DON'T tell Mom your reading Lolita!"
To my 13 year old self...
"Keep the "magazines" in a better place then under the bed"
To all my past selves in all times...
"For the love of God! KILL M. NIGHT SHAYMALAN!!!"
Naaah!
OT: Things I would send my past self...
To my 12 year old self...
"DON'T tell Mom your reading Lolita!"
To my 13 year old self...
"Keep the "magazines" in a better place then under the bed"
To all my past selves in all times...
"For the love of God! KILL M. NIGHT SHAYMALAN!!!"
So if it will work, why have we not recieved a message telling us so?
Obvious question is obvious, but I see a problem. Say somehow the singlets DO allow us to send messages into the past. What shape will they take? Notes? Nobody is going to believe them in any case if that's true. Also, what happened if someone did follow such a suggestion?
Chances are very good we'd never know, because our current 'time' wouldn't be changed at all.
Oh the woes of timetravel. Seems it'll only really 'work' when we can send a human being.
Obvious question is obvious, but I see a problem. Say somehow the singlets DO allow us to send messages into the past. What shape will they take? Notes? Nobody is going to believe them in any case if that's true. Also, what happened if someone did follow such a suggestion?
Chances are very good we'd never know, because our current 'time' wouldn't be changed at all.
Oh the woes of timetravel. Seems it'll only really 'work' when we can send a human being.
Wonderful.
As if creating mini black holes wasn't enough, now we have to worry a tear in the time space fabric.
/jk
As if creating mini black holes wasn't enough, now we have to worry a tear in the time space fabric.
/jk