Large Hadron Collider Produces "mini Big Bang"

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Blizzarded Soul

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jamesworkshop said:
Kenko said:
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Is this more evidence against religion?
Its another step in that direction. Isnt religious scripture evidence enough against religion in modern times? ;)
I don't think it takes 9 billion US dollars to suggest that stories about a magic man who has magical sex with virgins who then has a son that grow up to perform magic mircals really needs that much money thrown at it to appear comical
You sir , will have my babies.... Plz?
Ok, what is your opening bid

open to haggling
I really want to use a Pope joke.......but I still live in fear of getting banned.
 

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Question!!

How do you produce a temperature of one trillion degrees in a machine and not melt part of it? Granted it is a big machine but a temperature that high would rise and likely do some damage to anything above the source
 

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Wicky_42 said:
Crunchy English said:
A bit technical for my rather loose grasp of physics, but the LHC did SOMETHING without breaking down, blowing up or costing more money so... yay science.

On the prospective side, creating something that hot must have created a ton of usable energy: couldn't even one millionth of the sun's energy essentially solve any energy crisis we have? Just another piece of evidence proving that energy is really easy to come by, what we really need is a massive, super efficient battery.
It didn't create that energy, it used it, lol. We manufactured a mini-big bang. That's shockingly energy intensive - the LHC is a drain on the power grind, not a major contributor ;)
Wait-- The protonic reaction doesn't release potential energy within the atoms? It's just uses the same energy that accelerated the particles? Madness!
 

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Crunchy English said:
Wicky_42 said:
Crunchy English said:
A bit technical for my rather loose grasp of physics, but the LHC did SOMETHING without breaking down, blowing up or costing more money so... yay science.

On the prospective side, creating something that hot must have created a ton of usable energy: couldn't even one millionth of the sun's energy essentially solve any energy crisis we have? Just another piece of evidence proving that energy is really easy to come by, what we really need is a massive, super efficient battery.
It didn't create that energy, it used it, lol. We manufactured a mini-big bang. That's shockingly energy intensive - the LHC is a drain on the power grind, not a major contributor ;)
Wait-- The protonic reaction doesn't release potential energy within the atoms? It's just uses the same energy that accelerated the particles? Madness!
Erm, I don't think it's producing some sort of fission reaction, it really is just smashing stuff really hard together to see what comes out. I'm pretty all that equipment is there just to get the velocities of the particles involved high enough to gib atoms into sub atomic particles. Like taking a hammer to a watch to find out what cogs are in there...
 

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Whitenail said:
Interesting, let's just hope these discoveries can be put to better use than finding new and interesting methods of blowing things up.

Then again maybe this is how our universe began, maybe time is cyclical and perhaps we were our own God (or gods, or forces behind our creation depending on your stance)...or perhaps I'm overthinking things.
Something snapped in my head when i read that. (it does seems like it could be feasible, but time being cyclical would have to be proven). If time is cyclical, does that mean we are in the past, or are we actually part of the time before time?
 

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Aby_Z said:
I can't wait till we make a complete mini universe and come to the conclusion that it's just a loop of loops, humanity creating a mini version of itself and becoming God.
From a religious perspective, this is the natural conclusion. We're God's children. It's only natural for a child to want to follow in their parent's footsteps.
 

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Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
I can't wait till we make a complete mini universe and come to the conclusion that it's just a loop of loops, humanity creating a mini version of itself and becoming God.
From a religious perspective, this is the natural conclusion. We're God's children. It's only natural for a child to want to follow in their parent's footsteps.
I'm looking at it as a more trippy view, in that we're simply the latest chain in a loop of loops stretching back farther than is physically possible to comprehend. We were created by people toying around with a Hadron Collider of their own, and those people were in turn created by other people with a Hadron Collider of theirs, and so on and so on.
 

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Jabberwock xeno said:
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I'm surprised nobody on the Escapist has brought this up yet. I'd say it's pretty substantial news.

The experiment created temperatures a million times hotter than at the centre of the Sun.
So then, if it produced temperatures approaching 27 TRILLION, 999 BILLION, 540 MILLION degree's Fahrenheit (for those of you outside of the US, It's 27 billion, 999 millard, 540 million degrees fahrenheit, I'm not converting it into celsius for ya), then explain to me, how did it NOT melt the air around it into plasma, or melt the LHC it'self into a slag of molten metal?
It happened on the atomic level. Something that small will never do any real damage.
 

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TriggerUnhappy said:
When you're dealing with the temperature of the sun, nothing is a "safe controlled environment". Still, pretty interesting.
Fun fact. There is a type of crab that produces the temperature of the sun every time it wants to kill something.
 

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Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
I can't wait till we make a complete mini universe and come to the conclusion that it's just a loop of loops, humanity creating a mini version of itself and becoming God.
From a religious perspective, this is the natural conclusion. We're God's children. It's only natural for a child to want to follow in their parent's footsteps.
I'm looking at it as a more trippy view, in that we're simply the latest chain in a loop of loops stretching back farther than is physically possible to comprehend. We were created by people toying around with a Hadron Collider of their own, and those people were in turn created by other people with a Hadron Collider of theirs, and so on and so on.
It's essentially a similar view that I've had for a while. I wonder what kind of effects we're causing extra-dimensionally with what we're doing here...
 

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dogstile said:
TriggerUnhappy said:
When you're dealing with the temperature of the sun, nothing is a "safe controlled environment". Still, pretty interesting.
Fun fact. There is a type of crab that produces the temperature of the sun every time it wants to kill something.
Link please? Sounds more like the pistol shrimp to me, but I'm not sure.
 

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Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
I can't wait till we make a complete mini universe and come to the conclusion that it's just a loop of loops, humanity creating a mini version of itself and becoming God.
From a religious perspective, this is the natural conclusion. We're God's children. It's only natural for a child to want to follow in their parent's footsteps.
I'm looking at it as a more trippy view, in that we're simply the latest chain in a loop of loops stretching back farther than is physically possible to comprehend. We were created by people toying around with a Hadron Collider of their own, and those people were in turn created by other people with a Hadron Collider of theirs, and so on and so on.
It's essentially a similar view that I've had for a while. I wonder what kind of effects we're causing extra-dimensionally with what we're doing here...
We're just making sure that whole "There's an alternate universe of all types" theory is true.

The real question is, once we create a universe, can we destroy it?
 

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Tharwen said:
Jabberwock xeno said:
Citrus Insanity said:
I'm surprised nobody on the Escapist has brought this up yet. I'd say it's pretty substantial news.

The experiment created temperatures a million times hotter than at the centre of the Sun.
So then, if it produced temperatures approaching 27 TRILLION, 999 BILLION, 540 MILLION degree's Fahrenheit (for those of you outside of the US, It's 27 billion, 999 millard, 540 million degrees fahrenheit, I'm not converting it into celsius for ya), then explain to me, how did it NOT melt the air around it into plasma, or melt the LHC it'self into a slag of molten metal?
1. There's no air for several metres around it.

2. The energy isn't emitted as heat.
I believe this was the Physics equivalent of a burn, so I just had to express my gratitude.
 

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Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
I can't wait till we make a complete mini universe and come to the conclusion that it's just a loop of loops, humanity creating a mini version of itself and becoming God.
From a religious perspective, this is the natural conclusion. We're God's children. It's only natural for a child to want to follow in their parent's footsteps.
I'm looking at it as a more trippy view, in that we're simply the latest chain in a loop of loops stretching back farther than is physically possible to comprehend. We were created by people toying around with a Hadron Collider of their own, and those people were in turn created by other people with a Hadron Collider of theirs, and so on and so on.
It's essentially a similar view that I've had for a while. I wonder what kind of effects we're causing extra-dimensionally with what we're doing here...
We're just making sure that whole "There's an alternate universe of all types" theory is true.

The real question is, once we create a universe, can we destroy it?
Then we come to another question:

If we can create a universe, would it be moral to destroy it? If we can create a universe, can we bring whatever life comes from this new universe into ours before we destroy it?
 

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Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
I can't wait till we make a complete mini universe and come to the conclusion that it's just a loop of loops, humanity creating a mini version of itself and becoming God.
From a religious perspective, this is the natural conclusion. We're God's children. It's only natural for a child to want to follow in their parent's footsteps.
I'm looking at it as a more trippy view, in that we're simply the latest chain in a loop of loops stretching back farther than is physically possible to comprehend. We were created by people toying around with a Hadron Collider of their own, and those people were in turn created by other people with a Hadron Collider of theirs, and so on and so on.
It's essentially a similar view that I've had for a while. I wonder what kind of effects we're causing extra-dimensionally with what we're doing here...
We're just making sure that whole "There's an alternate universe of all types" theory is true.

The real question is, once we create a universe, can we destroy it?
Then we come to another question:

If we can create a universe, would it be moral to destroy it? If we can create a universe, can we bring whatever life comes from this new universe into ours before we destroy it?
And then:

Can we then make ships that look like UFOs?
Can we paint ourselves green and add fancy antennae?
Can we fuck with some primitive life forms?

And then suddenly, we realize everything.
 

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I do wish they'd stop causing horrendous space kablooies right here on Earth.
 

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Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
Naheal said:
Aby_Z said:
I can't wait till we make a complete mini universe and come to the conclusion that it's just a loop of loops, humanity creating a mini version of itself and becoming God.
From a religious perspective, this is the natural conclusion. We're God's children. It's only natural for a child to want to follow in their parent's footsteps.
I'm looking at it as a more trippy view, in that we're simply the latest chain in a loop of loops stretching back farther than is physically possible to comprehend. We were created by people toying around with a Hadron Collider of their own, and those people were in turn created by other people with a Hadron Collider of theirs, and so on and so on.
It's essentially a similar view that I've had for a while. I wonder what kind of effects we're causing extra-dimensionally with what we're doing here...
We're just making sure that whole "There's an alternate universe of all types" theory is true.

The real question is, once we create a universe, can we destroy it?
Then we come to another question:

If we can create a universe, would it be moral to destroy it? If we can create a universe, can we bring whatever life comes from this new universe into ours before we destroy it?
And then:

Can we then make ships that look like UFOs?
Can we paint ourselves green and add fancy antennae?
Can we fuck with some primitive life forms?

And then suddenly, we realize everything.
By playing God, we gain perspective on what it's like to be God.

Hee. I'm excited.
 

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SpecklePattern said:
Citrus Insanity said:
I'm surprised nobody on the Escapist has brought this up yet. I'd say it's pretty substantial news.

*big snip*
Source: BBC [http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11711228]

Very interesting. The LHC shows a lot of promise; it's good to see that the $9 billion investment is paying off.
Paying off? Hardly. But very interesting data is collected.

Like the fact that no one actually knew if these kind of temperatures would actually create some sort of mini black holes which would have perhaps less than funny effects. But it seems that the particle quantities and energy put into them in time span are still small enough not to cause anything nasty.

Well, the problem with a mini black hole is that it would be practically untraceable, and would, as far as most of us are concerned, instantly evaporate. It wouldn't exist long enough to actually do anything of consequence.