Business as usual, then. 200 cases is quite a lot, but it's hardly unusual for abusers to get away with loads of victims for years without the right people knowing, or more often, caring.Addendum_Forthcoming said:
Larry Nassar sentenced to 100 years minimum for sex abuse scandal
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You'd think, but actually not. Judges are on a very tight leash in what they can say and imply, and during the sentencing she said she wished she could do something cruel and unusual to him, but since she couldn't she "signed his death warrant"Kreett said:
And that is so not allowed. Because by her own admission she wants to torture him, and any appeals lawyer will take that as state-of-mind and intent and have her entire sentence thrown out.
I do love that video from last week of one of the victims' father lunging for the creep. Nassar will live the rest of his life in fear, as he should
My first post was genuine, I litirally never heard of this guy until this thread. This Larry guy can stay in jail for all he can.Avnger said:
I just have a problem when people suggests to arrests potential accomplicies because where do you stop at that point, is Larry Nasser's second cousin twice removed guilty of enableing him, is the child of Larry Nasser's friend who enabled him guilty of this?
Lets just say I don't like "Guilty by association" when it goes too far.
Not playing the devil?s advocate here; I?m not one of those people who bucks opinions held by others just for its own sake and even less to pass judgement of others, but I find it hard to believe anyone would think the parents were complicit in Nassar?s wrong doings. I highly doubt that the parents of nigh unto 200 girls (that?s 400 supposedly loving, providing adults) would willing send their children to slaughter for a chance at Olympic fame. My thoughts are that these children were just that: children. Gymnastics is likely something they love and strive to do their best at, and then they had this adult in a position of authority, someone whose job it was to know and assess their bodies and wellbeing, taking advantage of that position. People forget, molestation isn?t always an overt act of brutish violence done by a stranger; it?s often done by someone children know and trust, and even if a child doesn?t feel comfortable with acts of sexual abuse, they have to reconcile in their own, young minds how someone they trust and supposedly cares about them can do the things they do to them. The fact is Nasser had unique access to these young women which he exploited; if any of them came forward to their parents (and I?m sure there were some,) it wasn?t likely so blunt as ?he?s molesting me? and their parents saying ?too bad, so sad; deal with it for the glory.? They likely made excuses not to want to go, maybe asked not to be in gymnastics anymore, and any parents thinking they were running away from the struggle of strict practice regimens encouraging their daughters to stick with it because no parent wants their child to give up something they can do well at simply because it?s hard to do.
And I?m speaking from second-hand experience, if I can qualify my thoughts. My girlfriend, now in her early 40s, admitted something to me that happened to her when she was a young teenager; it?s something that she never directly addressed with the offending person (now dead) or anyone who might have been in a position to do anything about it had they known it had happened. She told me how she really didn?t understand, at that age, how this person could mean to hurt her, and in sick way, forgave him though she has learned in decades since there was nothing to forgive, that she was a victim. We?ve talked about this Nasser nonsense, and she feels for these young women, that coupled with the pressures of training and practice to be in the Olympics, Nasser was able to operate and do these sick things likely unquestioned, abusing the trust and high regard within these girls held him. Nasser is a monster, and before we spin off on speculations that the rabbit hole goes deeper or suggesting other involved, I?m comfortable knowing this human garbage is getting his just desserts. Besides, if the problem IS bigger than just him the song bird would have been singing a long time ago, if only to catch a break from the prosecution. I know I wouldn?t go down alone as a child molester if there was anyone else of note to share the blame; another poster is correct; if you?re looking for the complete dregs of human decency, prison is the best place to start, and despite the myriad offences that land so many in there, child molestation is the LAST one anyone would want to find themselves in there for; neither side of the bars let?s that shit fly. Nasser should have REQUESTED the death penalty.
And I?m speaking from second-hand experience, if I can qualify my thoughts. My girlfriend, now in her early 40s, admitted something to me that happened to her when she was a young teenager; it?s something that she never directly addressed with the offending person (now dead) or anyone who might have been in a position to do anything about it had they known it had happened. She told me how she really didn?t understand, at that age, how this person could mean to hurt her, and in sick way, forgave him though she has learned in decades since there was nothing to forgive, that she was a victim. We?ve talked about this Nasser nonsense, and she feels for these young women, that coupled with the pressures of training and practice to be in the Olympics, Nasser was able to operate and do these sick things likely unquestioned, abusing the trust and high regard within these girls held him. Nasser is a monster, and before we spin off on speculations that the rabbit hole goes deeper or suggesting other involved, I?m comfortable knowing this human garbage is getting his just desserts. Besides, if the problem IS bigger than just him the song bird would have been singing a long time ago, if only to catch a break from the prosecution. I know I wouldn?t go down alone as a child molester if there was anyone else of note to share the blame; another poster is correct; if you?re looking for the complete dregs of human decency, prison is the best place to start, and despite the myriad offences that land so many in there, child molestation is the LAST one anyone would want to find themselves in there for; neither side of the bars let?s that shit fly. Nasser should have REQUESTED the death penalty.
oki, other than agreeing less eloquently with McMorrow and Addendum's posts, I seriously gotta ask; so...ummm, what's the dealio with the OP's name and post here? Is this an official Nassar sentence news update bot account or what?
Then you don't understand what is meant by being an accomplice or an accessory to a crime. Your ridiculous scenarios almost make me feel like I should pull out that Billy Madison contest quote.Samtemdo8 said:
This isn't "guilt by association" in any, way, shape, or form. This is guilt by action (or inaction) in association with.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accessory_(legal_term)#United_States
Ok than I get your point, but now the question is were there human accessories involved or did Larry Nassar acted alone?Avnger said:
Also what was the quote from Billy Madison you were thinking of?
Maybe, but not likely. Judges have to be impartial during the actual trial, but are usually not impartial during sentencing. Indeed, considering there is a range of possible sentences for any given crime, a judge is to a degree supposed to make value judgements about the convict during sentencing to determine on which side of that range their punishment will fall.Silentpony said: