"Leaked" PC Edition of GTA 5 is Actually Malware

[Dragonbums]

Its fascinating to me that PC gamers can look at a situation like this, and think it hasn't taken GTA V on PC off the table. Like, millions of gamers instantly pirating GTA V doesn't show why the dev would be wasting their time porting to the console.

You know, you are allowed to make a distinction between what you want to happen, and what is likely to happen.

It hasn't.

GTA V on consoles was pirated 4 days before release with 86 million views. That's just on xbox alone. Even then, the PC version is already done if you look into the data files, and it was the lead platform so they can easily port it to next gen consoles. R is just waiting, and fixing online so the real next gen versions can have a seamless experience.

Console piracy is huge, now its even bigger than PC piracy. The most pirated PC game barely reach 3-4 million and that was spore. GTA V has 86 million views, so how can you say the PC is worse?

The question is, this- views are views. Millions of people can view a file, but never download it. So how many people actually downloaded it?

I'm not saying it isn't a large amount, but there are a good chunk of the Xbox populace that just don't give a fuck about GTA. Whether it's free or not.

As I said before, even with 10% download rates 1/3rd of GTA players are pirates. 18% is all that's needed for 50% piracy.

And going to view torrents and not downloading a single copy. Really? That's like going to a sex shop and saying you weren't interested in what they have.

Pirate sites are not something people browse in spare time. Its an illegal site meant for theft. People go there to steal.

But in terms of the console, I saw one of the screencaps looking like it came from an Xbox forum.

I'm fairly certain a good number of people thought about clicking the download button, but thought better.
There is hesitation when it comes to these things.

 

[heroicbob]

if anything i think this just proves that the barrier for entry into piracy is even lower than before

 

[sweetylnumb]

I enjoy that everyone on this thread going "har har pirates are all slimy filth" are probably people with jobs, who can actually afford to play games over $10, and they probably all take pirated movies off their friends hard-drives, no guilt, IM not pirating it!

Guys, yes, some people just download all games all the time despite having ample money, and they are greedy and lazy and should feel bad. But some people just can't experience them otherwise because they are living off government handouts or they have to support a family, or whatever. I know a few people (being a student) who buy a game as soon as it comes on special for ~$10 or below, and legally own plenty of games, but sometimes a $60-80 game is just beyond them, and they might pirate it in order to have a go with it, they might even decide to save up for it after that, or simply buy it when it comes on sale.

And don't say "fuck the poor they should all have to wait for steam sales", life is hard, its even suckier when you don't have any money to fund video games or movies for the small windows of free time you have.

Or "Well they shouldn't have a decent Pc then (some people need a Pc for school, its a thing!"

The fact is, some people just aren't as lucky.

Try some empathy.
Unless its a cheap game. Then burn them at the stake.

 

[Roxor]

My face hurts from all the smiling I've been doing at this story.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

I just want to point something out here, the fact gta did not come to pc is nothing to do with piracy it's entirely to do with the millions sony and M$ threw at them to make it console exclusive..

Please show any evidence that either Sony or Microsoft gave millions of dollars to Rockstar to make GTA V "console exclusive." Seeing as it released worldwide for both consoles at the same time, this seems like an extremely dubious claim.

 

[The Lugz]

I just want to point something out here, the fact gta did not come to pc is nothing to do with piracy it's entirely to do with the millions sony and M$ threw at them to make it console exclusive..

Please show any evidence that either Sony or Microsoft gave millions of dollars to Rockstar to make GTA V "console exclusive." Seeing as it released worldwide for both consoles at the same time, this seems like an extremely dubious claim.

majour marketing spokesmen seem to agree that rockstar deliberately and conveniently setback launch, of-course feel free to take any such information with a grain of salt, I just take it as a given that these things are common knowledge since the timing is so deliciously convenient for these console manufacturers at this time. but there is, of-course no official information on the inside workings of these major corporations.
http://wccftech.com/three-biggest-rumors-just-in-gta-v-pc/


#EDIT

i almost forgot the original nvidia post:
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/08/13/did-nvidia-accidentally-announce-gta-v-for-the-pc/

which 'may' be a leak or may by a slip of wording, but again i find it convenient that a company who would have to know these things in advance to build drivers does indeed have it on the tip of their tongue, so to speak.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

majour marketing spokesmen seem to agree that rockstar deliberately and conveniently setback launch, of-course feel free to take any such information with a grain of salt, I just take it as a given that these things are common knowledge since the timing is so deliciously convenient for these console manufacturers at this time. but there is, of-course no official information on the inside workings of these major corporations.

So, based on absolutely nothing other than speculation and conjecture, then?

Think about this logically - Microsoft and Sony are direct rivals in the console business. Do you really think they'd pay millions of dollars to not get an exclusive for either of their platforms? Especially when PC gaming is small potatoes compared to the console market? Do you think it might have just been a business decision by Rockstar to not immediately release for PC, because it's not a particularly lucrative market, and requires a bunch of extra support and programming?

And you get your information from "major marketing spokesmen"? That doesn't sound like a good strategy for getting accurate information.

 

[The Lugz]

Think about this logically - Microsoft and Sony are direct rivals in the console business. Do you really think they'd pay millions of dollars to not get an exclusive for either of their platforms?

Yes, the world is not black and white all or nothing and those who run business that way tend not to be in business very long if there's money involved you can be assured it is being chased. I've thought about it for as long as it takes thank-you and if you don't like my conclusions you have a mind of your own and don't have to subscribe to them.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

Yes, the world is not black and white all or nothing and those who run business that way tend not to be in business very long if there's money involved you can be assured it is being chased. I've thought about it for as long as it takes thank-you and if you don't like my conclusions you have a mind of your own and don't have to subscribe to them.

So, what are you saying here? That the way to stay in business is to give millions of dollars away to not get an exclusive? That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Once again, please show me any evidence that the GTA V release schedule was in any way influenced by money from Microsoft and Sony.

There is significant definitive evidence that Microsoft paid Rockstar to for Xbox-exclusive content on GTA IV, but there is no evidence for a similar deal on GTA V. Why would Microsoft pay to keep GTA V off Windows, anyway? Microsoft owns Windows, and it is a platform they desperately want more attention for. If anything, they would pay Rockstar to release GTA V for Windows.

You are making some extraordinary claims here - that Microsoft paid Rockstar to not release GTA V for Microsoft's own platform, and also that companies who are stay in business throw away money for no good reason. Some supporting evidence would be useful when making such claims.

 

[The Lugz]

Yes, the world is not black and white all or nothing and those who run business that way tend not to be in business very long if there's money involved you can be assured it is being chased. I've thought about it for as long as it takes thank-you and if you don't like my conclusions you have a mind of your own and don't have to subscribe to them.

So, what are you saying here?

I'm saying I have little vested interest in discussing it further, as you're intent on perverting my comments into an argument over hypothetical evidence, to-wit I say prove they didn't. and if you don't like my conclusions that's as valid a viewpoint as any other.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

I'm saying I have little vested interest in discussing it further, as you're intent on perverting my comments into an argument over hypothetical evidence, to-wit I say prove they didn't. and if you don't like my conclusions that's as valid a viewpoint as any other.

Of course you aren't, because you don't have any support for your argument.

This is one of the oldest logical fallacies in the book, proving a negative. "Prove that they didn't"? Why don't you prove that you are not a child molester? You are the one who made this claim, it is up to you to support it.

If you're not interested in having your contention discussed online, then why post your argument to a message board in the first place? Not all viewpoints are valid as others. Those with facts supporting them are more valid. Do you believe that the argument that Earth is a flat plane which the Sun revolves around is just as valid as the argument that the Earth is a spheroid object which orbits the Sun, despite all of the evidence?

 

[Aardvaarkman]

Since when was this an argument? I'm not arguing about anything this is you picking fault with my comments because of reasons best known by you.

Since you made an argument. You seem unfamiliar with the definition of the word. "Argument" doesn't necessarily mean fighting. You put forth the argument that Microsoft and Sony paid millions of dollars to Rockstar to make GTA V console-exclusive. I rebutted your argument with my own. Pretty standard online interaction.

I've shown you what I think and why and I really couldn't care less if you don't agree with me, and I'm glad you picked up on your use of logical fallacies, at last that's a nasty habit to get into since anyone can cry foul then demand proof.

What logical fallacies did I use?

the fact gta did not come to pc is nothing to do with piracy it's entirely to do with the millions sony and M$ threw at them to make it console exclusive..

Please show any evidence that either Sony or Microsoft gave millions of dollars to Rockstar to make GTA V "console exclusive."

TLDR, prove it.

hoist by your own cognitively dissonant petard, one could say.
so, feel free to take the final word in your 'argument' I'm off to play the latest batman.

What the holy hell?

You make a claim, don't provide a single shred of evidence for it, then say "TLDR" and say that somehow I'm the one with a faulty argument because I ask you to back it up? I'm also not sure where cognitive dissonance comes into this.

You even called your opinion "fact" - it's right there in the quote you posted. If you're claiming something as a fact, you'd better be ready to prove it.

 

[The Lugz]

You even called your opinion "fact" - it's right there in the quote you posted. If you're claiming something as a fact, you'd better be ready to prove it.

the FACT gta did not come to pc is nothing to do with piracy it's entirely to do with the millions sony and M$ threw at them to make it console exclusive..

^ this IS a fact. currently no pc version of gta is available to purchase. and I tacked on my opinion as to why afterwards, at-least read the posts your going to attack for no reason.

and your attempts to lay burden of proof on me over this are silly, at best. if you really have nothing better to do just quit it go to bed and quit filling the forum and my inbox for no reason.

 

[The Lugz]

My reason is to try and stop people making illogical and unsupported statements in these forums

in other-words, you're attempting to police the internet to fit it to your will? well, I have to say there's ego and then there's this.

It's rather apparent from your lack of grammar and critical thinking that you should get some more basic education before you post things online.

Nothing but scathing comments left? you will eventually learn you are incapable of effecting me and dragging this nonsense to it's conclusion is just going to get you modded out of the forum, so if that's what you want go for it I wish you good luck.

I'm done with this, good day.

 

[Aardvaarkman]

in other-words, you're attempting to police the internet to fit it to your will? well, I have to say there's ego and then there's this.

Uh, no. I know that my attempts at rational discourse are mostly futile. But I don't see what it has to do with ego - it's more about cooperation to make the forums a better place.

Nothing but scathing comments left? you will eventually learn you are incapable of effecting me and dragging this nonsense to it's conclusion is just going to get you modded out of the forum, so if that's what you want go for it I wish you good luck.

I'm done with this, good day.

It's not about a conclusion. This exchange could have ended quite some time ago if you had simply admitted that your claim of Sony and Microsoft giving millions of dollars to Rockstar for GTA V was just hot air.

Rather ironic that you would accuse me of scathing comments, when you have not addressed the substance of any of my comments, but instead have gone straight to to personal attacks. I'm not sure why I would be "modded out of the forum" for attempting to have an intelligent discussion.

Every time I ask a direct question, or address your points, you change the topic and make it more personal, instead of just addressing the issues. Why is it so hard to answer simple questions? That would take less time than going off on these unrelated rants. If you care so little about the claims you made, then why make them in the first place?

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

So the funny thing (to me) is that an actual, competently-made virus can be very small- plain code doesn't take up a lot of space, after all- and can weigh in as tiny as 3 kilobytes. (Yes, that's three thousand bytes.) You could probably pack every computer virus ever made into 20GB.

Of course, I'm not going to shed a single tear for any idiot who downloads this and gets infected. The most effective way to stop stupid people from being stupid is to make them suffer for being stupid.