Left 4 Dead 2 Ban Surprised, Saddened Valve

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squid5580

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Wait a second was the first L4D released down under? If it faced the banhammer as well then I can understand (to a point, it is silly to deny AUSTRALIANS the country that everything not man made is intended to kill you) but if they let the first one go but ban the second because of melee weapons. That is just sad.
 

Piotr621

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ARGH! Why, why, why, why, why?!? Hopefully Steam will allow to sidestep this minor issue...
 

The Random One

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Wow, I'm actually amazed that they aren't backing down and agreeing to tone down the game to fit Australia's draconian standards. I think having the market force down on this is the only way to change legislation there.

Maybe the deal Valve did with the devil to have people think Half-Life is good and play Counterstrike for ten years actually worked out after all.
 

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Whats with Australia? I thought the ratings were suppost to tell people what was in the game so they could decide if they wanted it or not. It wasn't made so that every game that wasn't suitable for people under 18 would be banned. And its not like you're beating puppies or old ladies with frying pans.... right?
 

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Australian media classification groups are perfectly happy to allow ridiculous amounts of gore on screen. It's the interactivity with video games that pushes them over the edge [Eye roll].

In regards to the first L4D not being banned, it was because it wasn't as gory as the new one. It certainly WAS gory, but not enough to turn the censors heads in its direction. L4D2, unfortunately, has new lighting and melee weapons, plus the much touted locational damage effects Valve has mentioned, all of which add to high amounts of on-screen gore.

"But wait!" I hear you cry "What about Gears of War and Gears of War 2! Surely those games must have been banned for their gratuitous amounts of gore!". The answer is both happily and sadly, no. Happily because they're fun games. Sadly, because the only reason I can postulate that the media classification groups are hounding L4D2 is because of its "ties to reality". To clarify, the Gears games were very obviosuly set in an alernate reality/place/dimension, whatever you want to call it. L4D2 is set in the present day and contains themes of viral outbreak, mass contamination and common "poeple on the street" having to murder hundreds of others to survive.

Basically, gore is fine, so long as it can't be related to real life. That's the only justification which might make any sense to the ratings at the moment.
 

Emilie Diabolica

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*cries*
i was so looking forward to buying this..
dont they see that it's just going to up the rate of piracy for this game?

and seriously, government, you rate movies R18+, why not games??

argh
*facedesk*
 

Kiutu

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Australia bans everything apparently. I always read about Australia banning something.
 

Naeberius

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do i have to sell my soul to some dark gods to get New Zealand L4D2? or are we getting it despite Australia's mass stupidity?
 

nonW00t

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"So if Valve wants to make this game legal to sell in Australia, they'll have to well, basically remove the melee weapons and anything and everything violent in the game." -- And with that, 2 words: F*** Australia! (that is, the rating board or whatever) LOL
 

Katherine Kerensky

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Maybe Valve should declare war on Australia's Office of Film and Literature Classification :p
or, they could make a game that sets the player against them :p
but still... this is unfair for gamers there...
 

MrGFunk

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AceDiamond said:
Destal said:
I fail to understand why all games must be suitable for under 18, I thought that was the reason for the rating system.

Pacifist Zombie invasion? I'll keep mine the old fashoned way.
It's mostly because, as far as my understanding is, Australia has no rating for 18+, and any attempts to get such a rating are constantly stonewalled by Michael Atkinson.
Couldn't the people of Australia get together and lobby their MP's for a better rating system if there isn't one in place for 18+. Governments are supposed to work for the people not vice versa.
 

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DeathWyrmNexus said:
"All games must be suitable for kids under 18... Because the people of Australia are a sheep based people after all the outback bestiality and thus unable to do anything but what they are told. Even myself, as head of Office of Film and Literature Classification, find that if a flickering set of lights tell me that I must kill my mother, I am compelled to obey. Luckily, somebody beside me was chanting really loud to overcome the message and turned off the television set before I did something I would regret and then blame on an inanimate object.

The sheer horror and realization that parenting is useless in raising kids and that the flicking light box's messages must be contained lest anarchy rule has moved me to this great cause. We cannot ever be held responsible for our actions thus must continue the long march towards a fully functioning nanny state. We hope to have the government controlled and compulsory diapers for all citizens before the end of the year."

Ya, whenever I read about Australia chattering about more censorship, that is what I hear. Why do the Australian public put up with this kind of intellectual insult?
Is that seriously true did someone actually say that... Please tell me that isn't true pleeease?
 

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im pretty sure its considered illegal to even import the game..
you'll get slapped with a fine for bringing something through customs that our country doesnt allow etc..
its all just a pile of lame