[Legend of Korra Finale Spoilers] Implied with a sledgehammer!

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BiscuitTrouser

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Here? I feel like we're only seeing the veeeeery beginning of a relationship.
This is important, its not like they pulled another Varick where they proposed to eachother, they made the first tentative steps toward romance from friendship. Before I officially dated anyone ive dated we held hands and did other subtle romantic things just based on good chemistry and a close friendship. Saying "DAMN I DIDNT SEE THIS VERY TINY BABYSTEP TOWARD A ROMANCE COMING OBVIOUSLY!" is kinda silly, its MEANT to be one of the first indicators they are romantically involved at all. Aang and Katara had a huge load of these small moments before they were properly together, its natural, and here we saw their first one. I thought it flowed very well.
 

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And here we have it confirmed without a doubt [http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace]

Merry Christmas everyone!
 
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SNCommand said:
And here we have it confirmed without a doubt [http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace]

Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry Christmas indeed. This is a great gift to give.
 

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SNCommand said:
And here we have it confirmed without a doubt [http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace]

Merry Christmas everyone!
I guess you could say the Avatar always gets the girl.
 

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SNCommand said:
And here we have it confirmed without a doubt [http://bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace]

Merry Christmas everyone!
".... Rather, I want to portray a slightly different relationship, one where the two mutually inspire each other to live - if I'm able to, then perhaps I'll be closer to portraying a true expression of love."

That is exactly what I thought after the series finale and what I think is so awesome about Korra and Asami.

:' )

Great read.
 

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Korrasami might be cannon, but it's gay dumbledore type cannon. It was never depicted competently and relies almost entirely on two contextually debatable scenes covered in confirmation bias.

http://erraticallyinformed.tumblr.com/post/105943509837


Have a link because I'm texting and can't copy reliably.
 

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I never really boarded any of the ships. They always give me the internet equivalent of seasickness.

But the hints were definitely dropped from the end of season 3 through season 4 that there was SOMETHING going on between them. I disregarded it as fan-teasing, but apparently that wasn't the case.

Now, if they had ended with them straight up kissing, it would've felt pretty forced. There wasn't enough context for them to become and item then and there. But having them take the tentative first step into a relationship? That worked, and I thought it was quite lovely.

And, as a person who likes to see media be different: a children's network ending a show with two bisexual women of color walking into the sunset (er, spirit portal) hand-in-hand? That's fucking weird, and therefore awesome.
 

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AtenSet said:
Korrasami might be cannon, but it's gay dumbledore type cannon. It was never depicted competently and relies almost entirely on two contextually debatable scenes covered in confirmation bias.
Even though your mileage may vary, word of God applies, meaning that the show has succeeded in getting shit past the radar.

I can't fit more TV Tropes into a sentence while remaining relevant.
 

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That's the hallmark of good cinematography/ animation, to set things up in a way as to allow multiple interpretations of the exact same scene.

Some people will go:

"Holding hands + close proximity + looking into each other's eyes = enough proof for me to file it under lesbians"

Others will go:

"They're BFFs"

Personally, I think that, as the scene is constructed right now, it's a perfect 50-50. Which essentially comes down to; no one apart from the creators can really know.

EDIT: Should've read on longer. So Bryan Konietzko has confirmed it.
 

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GabeZhul said:
[Edit]: And now that I recalled that episode, I suddenly realized it also completely retconned the notion of where bending came from (in Aang, benders learned from animals and nature, in there is was given to them by the lion-turtles). I am feeling a lot more ambivalent about that detail...
They didn't recon it so much as addendumed it; they got the power from the lion turtles, but learned technique from the animals (and moon).

Observe the scene with Wan and the dragon.
 

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The Night Shade said:
The ending was great it may be kinda rushed but i can see the two together, they have great chemistry and i hope it's canon cause it's a good step towards more diverse characters and relationships.
I thought so too. Ever since Season 3 I felt that they would make a great couple because of how natural their friendship was. It's pretty awesome now that the creators confirmed that they are in fact a couple.
 

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AtenSet said:
Korrasami might be cannon, but it's gay dumbledore type cannon. It was never depicted competently and relies almost entirely on two contextually debatable scenes covered in confirmation bias.
Define 'Gay Dumbledore Canon,' because I don't recall reading any kinds of text in the books that hint at Dumbledore being gay. I just remember Rowling coming out and saying "He's gay."

As for the scenes you're referring to: The first scene about Asami writing to Korra and saying that she 'misses her' is debatable, because who wouldn't miss their best friend? The hair compliment scene on the other hand was practically a slap in the face.
 

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Jesse Billingsley said:
Define 'Gay Dumbledore Canon,' because I don't recall reading any kinds of text in the books that hint at Dumbledore being gay. I just remember Rowling coming out and saying "He's gay."
I seem to recall some parts in...actually I can't recall which book, but it's where they discussed young Dumbledore and what he did before becoming the head of Hogwarts. The stuff about his friend, and a younger sister? I forget who's sister it was, either Dumbledore's or the other guy. It wasn't directly stated, but she worded a few phrases when discussing him and a male friend of his that suggested he was gay.

Granted, it was very subtle, and I only noticed it because I didn't read the Potter books until after this information was made public, so I could easily see it being disregarded as an indication of him being gay.
 

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I compare it to the Dumbledore situation because Korassami is technically canon in that same way that Dumbledore is technically gay.

Yes, they held hands; but to a lot of people this doesn't really mean a lot. Yes, you could very well look at some of their recent interactions as build-up to a budding romance; you could also look at these as just genuine moments of friendship. Solely within the context of the show, it IS ambiguous. Certainly less ambiguous than Princess Bubblegum and Marceline, but ambiguous all the same.

Bryke supposedly confirmed it. Okay, but this is where the Dumbledore comparison comes in because the fact that it needed to be confirmed at all by the creator AFTER the fact (and not in-story) says a lot right there. Not everyone follows what the creators say about their works.

Bottom line is that it just feels half-assed. If they are a couple, go all the way. They don't have to fuck on the spot, but maybe have one of them say, "I love you," or have them kiss or whatever. Make it more concrete than "look at the parallels between them and other couples holding hands!" To be fair though, it IS possible that maybe the writers just weren't allowed to do more than that even if they wanted to, so it had to be censored down to just hand-holding.

Keep in mind, I'm not disputing whether or not it's canon. I don't really care. I hated the stupid love triangle business in the first 2 seasons that it completely turned me off any of Korra's romance (I actually would have preferred her staying platonic with at least her group of friends, but whatever). I'm also not a shipper, so I personally didn't care about Korra and Asami getting together; I also didn't really care about Aang/Katara, Jinora/Kai, or Sokka/Suki (though I did think Bolin/Opal was kind of cute though and Zuko/Mai was fairly amusing).

What amuses me is how so many people are now praising Korra as opening doors for same-sex couples in kids' cartoons when Clarence actually did it first by having two legitimate same-sex couples- one lesbian couple even being the parents of the one of the main characters.
 

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Accel said:
Bottom line is that it just feels half-assed. If they are a couple, go all the way. They don't have to fuck on the spot, but maybe have one of them say, "I love you," or have them kiss or whatever. Make it more concrete than "look at the parallels between them and other couples holding hands!" To be fair though, it IS possible that maybe the writers just weren't allowed to do more than that even if they wanted to, so it had to be censored down to just hand-holding.
Creators already said that they couldn't do because Nick wouldn't allow it. This is America afterall. Hand holding is 'okay,' but Godforbid we show two women kissing passionately.
 

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Accel said:
What amuses me is how so many people are now praising Korra as opening doors for same-sex couples in kids' cartoons when Clarence actually did it first by having two legitimate same-sex couples- one lesbian couple even being the parents of the one of the main characters.
Question though. Are they the actual main characters? If not then yes Korra opened up the doors. Never before, to my knowledge, in a western animated show aimed at kids has the main protagonist had any kind of same sex anything. That stuff, when done, is usually reserved for side characters and not the main hero. That is why its a big freaking deal here.
 

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No love for Zhu Li and Varrick. Been rooting for Zhu Li to get through to him all season, and it all got completely overshadowed by lesbians.

Also, I heard they are going to make the ship more confirmed in the comics. So there's that.