Legend of Korra - hopes for the end of season 2

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lord canti

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balladbird said:
I agree that the Vaatu plot is cliche ridden and predictable.

"Oh, a being of pure evil, sealed for 10,000 years 9,999 years ago? I bet the villains are trying to free him. I bet the heroes will fail to stop them until they've accomplished 99% of their master plan, and hostages will be involved."

I'd claim I was clever for predicting all that, but from the second I heard the Wan backstory it was all painfully obvious.

The Republic city subplot is much better, and my favorite thing about the series so far. Varrik is an awesome, atypical villain, and the steampunk feel of the setting never getting old. Even that one has the downside of every established character turning into a moron so that Mako can shine.

I've loved season 2, and defended it quite passionately against people still starstruck by AtLA, but compared to season one it just has more weak plot elements.
Season 2 story telling was just plain sloppy. Korra regressed back into how she was in the first season despite having this big spiritual revelation with Aang. Also like you said all the other established characters took stupids pills so Mako can shine.It's a real problem in your series where everyone else is a better character than your main one. Thankfully they seemed to be on the right track with the last three episodes and yes vatuu is a big cliche. The writers have shown that they can give fresh takes on those cliches when their not being stupid.
 

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^Isn't that pretty much every cartoon, ever?

'Hey, Batman, just let the Joker fall to his death or whatever, don't keep saving his damn life.'

'Hey, every Power Ranger series ever...just find the main bad guy base and destroy it.'
 

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Tanis said:
Speaking of CURRENT EPISODE SPOILERS!IF SE3 is suppose to be about 'family', it be cool to learn who Lin's father is, and if it was good enough for Star Wars...
I seriously can't think of a single person Toph would legitimately be with.

Its just like...... not her personality IMO.

Also, it was confirmed we would learn more about Lin's family in season 3 and 4, so its likely we will get our answers then.
I would love it if they could pull off a good romantic interest for Toph. The way I see it, the character would have to match her in confidence and cockiness, resulting in one of those love-hate relationships where they bicker all the time but can't stay away from each other. I don't know if this is a right comparison, but I would imagine him as a male Azula, minus the insanity and excessive cruelty. If done right, it could be incredibly sweet. The worst possible solution would be just explaining "Oh, she grew up and settled down with some -insert bland guy here-".
 

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More Varrick he is surprisingly the most sinister person in the series. Unalaq just seems to want to destroy the world/servant of Vaatu stuff while Varrick seems like he is pulling a Varys except all for his own good all along.
 

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balladbird said:
I agree that the Vaatu plot is cliche ridden and predictable.

"Oh, a being of pure evil, sealed for 10,000 years 9,999 years ago? I bet the villains are trying to free him. I bet the heroes will fail to stop them until they've accomplished 99% of their master plan, and hostages will be involved."

I'd claim I was clever for predicting all that, but from the second I heard the Wan backstory it was all painfully obvious.
Yeah... I agree.

Most of the plot feels rushed, specially because nothing of it was introduced on the first season (I know they didn't predict it, but still, feels like a massive threat to get unnoticed). Also, the newly introduced source-of-all-evil spirit with an evil henchman that is just purely evil and wants to destroy the world because... evil, and only our hero can fight it feels extremely cliche. I thought the south against north conflict had potential (with Korra being divided between her loyalty to her people and her duty as an agent of peace), until I discovered Sauron was behind it all.

At this point, I will predict that:
a) the brothers will have a change of heart and turn against their father in his fight against the Avatar, preferably by blocking his killing blow and buying her time. At that point, the battle will evolve into a two fronts fight. On one side, the avatar versus the evil spirit and, on the other, the evil father against their reformed children.
b) the evil spirit will cross to the other side, evidenced by sequences of different places of the human world turning evil, people "getting evil" or being ravaged by evil minions.
c) during that time, the other characters will forget about their conspiracy theories investigation and use their bending skills/technological ingenuity to fight the minions and protect the civilians.
d) the evil spirit will posses the evil henchman or the hostage and mop the floor with the Avatar (mostly helped by her reluctance to fight it), until she gets an epiphany helped by the spirit of the first Avatar, that helps her defeat the spirit while also saving the host.
 

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runic knight said:
I hope I am not the only one hoping Varrick is not actually the evil mastermind, but is being manipulated by his assistant who is sort of the real power behind the throne. I just like Varrick as a character, don't really want to see him be evil.
No sir, you are not the only one. I REALLY liked Varrick, and that turn kind of hurt my feelins' just a bit. :(

And I am enjoying this season, but its not without its ups and downs. The episode with Wan was absolutely phenomenal, and easily the best episode of the two seasons with Korra, for me personally.... and while the episodes WITH Korra can be good, like others, Korra's attitude is getting very aggravating and I honestly would have thought she would have learned from seeing what Wan did, and went through, but her tantrums in the spirit world seem to say otherwise... Overall I am enjoying the series, but aside from the Wan episode it hasnt hit the same core emotions for me that the original Last Airbender series did...
 

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Riff Moonraker said:
runic knight said:
I hope I am not the only one hoping Varrick is not actually the evil mastermind, but is being manipulated by his assistant who is sort of the real power behind the throne. I just like Varrick as a character, don't really want to see him be evil.
No sir, you are not the only one. I REALLY liked Varrick, and that turn kind of hurt my feelins' just a bit. :(

And I am enjoying this season, but its not without its ups and downs. The episode with Wan was absolutely phenomenal, and easily the best episode of the two seasons with Korra, for me personally.... and while the episodes WITH Korra can be good, like others, Korra's attitude is getting very aggravating and I honestly would have thought she would have learned from seeing what Wan did, and went through, but her tantrums in the spirit world seem to say otherwise... Overall I am enjoying the series, but aside from the Wan episode it hasnt hit the same core emotions for me that the original Last Airbender series did...
Yeah, got to agree there. It really feels like Korra s a character slid back fro mthe growth she had in the first season in order to justify how she would grow in this one. I know that is related to them not knowing they would have a second season, but still feels lazy and makes Korra a but unlikable. Add to that how the villian for this season is bland and it is hard to care about the main plot. On the plus side, the side plot with Tensen's family and the Wan arch especially were great. I love seeing the creativity of the spirit world and it was nice to learn how the avatar came to be. I can sort of understand why korra may still not have changed too much from before he learned Wans story to after, as her as a child in the spirit world did sort of showcase how in over her head she really feels about it. I just wish that didn't seem so at odds with the growth she had in the first season.
 

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runic knight said:
Riff Moonraker said:
runic knight said:
I hope I am not the only one hoping Varrick is not actually the evil mastermind, but is being manipulated by his assistant who is sort of the real power behind the throne. I just like Varrick as a character, don't really want to see him be evil.
No sir, you are not the only one. I REALLY liked Varrick, and that turn kind of hurt my feelins' just a bit. :(

And I am enjoying this season, but its not without its ups and downs. The episode with Wan was absolutely phenomenal, and easily the best episode of the two seasons with Korra, for me personally.... and while the episodes WITH Korra can be good, like others, Korra's attitude is getting very aggravating and I honestly would have thought she would have learned from seeing what Wan did, and went through, but her tantrums in the spirit world seem to say otherwise... Overall I am enjoying the series, but aside from the Wan episode it hasnt hit the same core emotions for me that the original Last Airbender series did...
Yeah, got to agree there. It really feels like Korra s a character slid back fro mthe growth she had in the first season in order to justify how she would grow in this one. I know that is related to them not knowing they would have a second season, but still feels lazy and makes Korra a but unlikable. Add to that how the villian for this season is bland and it is hard to care about the main plot. On the plus side, the side plot with Tensen's family and the Wan arch especially were great. I love seeing the creativity of the spirit world and it was nice to learn how the avatar came to be. I can sort of understand why korra may still not have changed too much from before he learned Wans story to after, as her as a child in the spirit world did sort of showcase how in over her head she really feels about it. I just wish that didn't seem so at odds with the growth she had in the first season.
I am glad you mentioned Tenzens family, as I completely forgot about that. Speaking of which, the end of the last episode really packed a punch when you could hear the sheer fear in Tenzens voice, and saw the look on Korras face. Again, its not without its problems, but I still really do enjoy the series, and I will be there all the way to the end. I am also not ashamed to admit jumping up in excitement when I saw Uncle Iroh! My whole family did a cheer, lol...
 

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On a slightly unrelated topic, did anyone think that A New Spiritual Age was a bit reminiscent of Alice in Wonderland? Korra gets turned smaller, then she has a tea party with some weird people in a world with a very dark and trippy side. Just a harmless observation from me, but seeing Iroh was really nice!

I don't think that they have enough episodes in either of the two series so far, only about 9, it doesn't let them have enough time to have character development. So far though, I have liked Legend of Korra a bit more than other people have, of course I prefer TLA, but I like how TLOK is a bit darker (that Of Mice and Men Moment at the end of season 1 really had me shocked).

Are they going to be in the spirit world for the rest of this season? It seems to be going that way, but there are a few unresolved things in the material world, (not least that mess of a love triangle). I enjoy seeing the insight into Tenzin's upbringing and family, hope that turns out okay in the end.
 

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I have no idea where this season is going.

I like it.

Random thoughts:
- Korra has finally got her head back on straight.
- Mako and Asami need to be together. Asami is too awesome to get so badly screwed over.
- Unalaq is completely worthless. He's a lame Tarrlok clone.
- I hope Lin Bei Fong gets her shit back together and pulls her head out of her ass. She's been taking the stupid pills this season.
- Bolin...meh. He's cool, but I don't really care which way his story develops.
- Mako needs to be recognized as the only officer who knows what the hell he's doing.
- I have no idea where the whole storyline with Varrick is going since it seems almost totally disconnected from the Vaatu VS Raava spirit war storyline.
- I hope we see more of Avatar Wan, and adult Team Avatar.
- Jinora is awesome.
- Iroh is awesome.
- Dragon Birds are awesome.
- I miss Amon.
- I want more of the Kraken spirit.

I didn't know where Season 1 was going either, but I had theories.
My theory was actually waaaaaaaaay better than how it ended up, but it was good either way.

It's very weird that I don't foresee any specific distinct direction for Season 2 yet despite there only being 4 episodes left.
 

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Oh, next season needs more General Iroh and more Lin Beifong(not being a douche).

If this war keeps going, it'd be pretty awesome to have Tenzin, Lin, Kya, Iroh, and Bumi form sort of a more experienced "Team Avatar" to fight alongside Korra, Mako, Bolin, Asami and....uh....Jinora?
 

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I wonder if Lin is actually playing the fool.

Like she KNOWS that Mako is telling truth, I mean her mom could tell if you were lying as long you weren't insane, but she can't let him know.
 

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Tanis said:
I wonder if Lin is actually playing the fool.

Like she KNOWS that Mako is telling truth, I mean her mom could tell if you were lying as long you weren't insane, but she can't let him know.
Please let it be that. Like she's been trying to get evidence on Varrick for a long time (the guy is sure suspicious) but has had to tread lightly.