Oh come on. Did they really show the thing online? This is bullshit. I don't want to watch it on the computer and now I still have to wait a week to figure out what happens.
I'll wait...just wish I understood the logic in them pulling a stunt like this. Seriously I know the first episode of Korra was leaked onto the web but officially putting it out there before the air date a week in advance. What were they thinking? Were they drunk or high when they did it? It just makes no sense to me at all really.
General thoughts: It was okay. The whole season's been a real zigzag between really clever and really poor writing. For example, the whole battle during the movie was spectacular, probably the high point of animation on this show, and Varrick's been a fantastic addition to the cast. And on the other hand we have the godawful love triangle (PLEASE let it be over now!) and Korra and Lin acting like total braying jackasses.
What I would really hope is that the next season would have a story where the antagonist wasn't what was driving the story, but something more adventure-y, or something smaller in scale. Like Korra traveling the world to see what effects her decision has had on the world. And by God, have Korra mature up a little! Watching her on this season has been excruciating at times.
Now that I think about it, they should probably just split the whole thing apart. Make Asami, Mako and Bolin have their own mini-series in Republic City, being a cop, a businesswoman and an actor, and devote this series to Korra. It's called Legend of Korra, for chrissakes!
The team really needs to fire the writers who came up with ideas like having Korra start a war, reintroducing the Twilight-level love triangle and reducing Lin to a retarded footnote. The finale was good enough that I remain hopeful.
Edit: Fuck! I started thinking about it and now I have to get this stuff out or I can't sleep. The finale showed us two things: 1. They went into this season without having fully thought the story out and 2. the writers were really pulling stuff right out of their asses big time! And I mean Neon Genesis Evangelion -level ass-pulling!
1. Jinora. What the hell did she even do? How?
2. Iroh's sudden appearance. His only purpose was, fan service aside, to introduce
3. The Fog of Lost Souls. A cool concept and even cooler to see Zhao again, but it's immediately deflated by
4. Tenzin's Shinji Ikari -style revelation which makes the whole place seem completely nonthreatening.
5. The Tree of Time. I immediately started thinking about the season 1 finale of ATLA, with princess Yuei explaining her backstory. This was the exact same freaking thing!
I mean Jesus Fuck, all those elements should have been established or at least introduced episodes ago. Now it just clearly shows that the writers were in a corner and just made this stuff up to redeem themselves.
Season 3 better kick ass or I'm done with this show!
Honestly... it could have been done better. I feel it suffered from one too many "coincidental saves" i.e. things got better because they had to not because characters worked hard to get it there. Its nice to see I wasn't the only one that disliked that finale with its slapdash writings like Jesus Jinora and Dark Avatar (I mean really...), cringe worthy romance which the show could have done without. Korra basically stating a universal "fuck you" to Wan's closing of the spirit portals was like the last straw for me, I mean... its just... You had ONE JOB KORRA!
You know, I actually liked it when bad shit was happening because it built tension, it made me wonder how they were gonna recover from such a setback. I mean remember how ATLA Book 2's finale was all like: Now Aang has unlocked all his chakra gates and is about to lay down some serious Avatar State smackdo- DENIED! Here I thought LoK would do similar... which it kinda did, but the bounce backs to the setbacks were too easy.
Final Word: Unalaq with the counter of the century! I mean godDAMN! did anyone else feel the impact on that one!? It was just WHAM right to the ribs!!
actually, people in the Avatar series can take a SURPRISING amount of damage!
I found this to be a bad ending for it. Bolin admits to having strong feeling for Eska and then they just end that. The giant fight was kinda lame, i mean it would have been better to have all the nations uniting and fighting the giant Vaatu and having Zuko and the rulers of the other nations appear. Having her lose connection to the past avatars seems like a bad idea and then she 'purified' vaatu which seems to make even less sense. Almost everything about the last 2 episodes just kinda rubbed me the wrong way.
I think you have finaly come across my biggest problem with the series. I have already explained in my post how I just don't like any of the characters (due to them either being douch bags or being hit with the stupid stick on a hourly basis) but I knew there was something else that was bugging me about the show I just could not put my finger on it but having read the part of your post about how they have made out Aang to have been in his adult life has made me realise how insulting it is.
As you said Aang was by no means perfect. Somethimes he cared a little too much, willing to put those he loves before the fate of the world and lets be honest someone charged with the protection of the world simply cannot be a pasifist because some people just give you no choice but to kill them but there is no way that Aang would love one of his children more than the others, he would never let them think they were a failer simply for not being born with airbending. The kind of person he was there was just no way that he would be a bad father. An absent father at times maybe (the guy was the Avatar after all) but never a bad one.
So I don't know if this is a good thing or not (probably not) but your post has made me look deeper at the show and I have gone from 20% disappointed, 80% indifferent to 20% disappointed, 80% pissed off.
Luckly the universe gave us the gift of denial so I will now go back to thinking of this whole show as non-canon in my head
8) Yes, clearly the world is safe having large temperamental spirits stomping around. Just like how lions interact so swimmingly with cities in the real world....oh right no they don't, because lions EAT people. The spirits had tensions with the humans long before Wan, and they'll clearly have tensions now that the worlds are connected. This is a terrible change and Korra's a bloody idiot for thinking otherwise.
Another reason why portal use should be limited or even closed between worlds. There are certain spirits that clearly do not like humans; if Korra was still connected to the previous Avatars she would know a spirit like Koh the face stealer shouldn't be free to wander the human world.
8) Yes, clearly the world is safe having large temperamental spirits stomping around. Just like how lions interact so swimmingly with cities in the real world....oh right no they don't, because lions EAT people. The spirits had tensions with the humans long before Wan, and they'll clearly have tensions now that the worlds are connected. This is a terrible change and Korra's a bloody idiot for thinking otherwise.
Another reason why portal use should be limited or even closed between worlds. There are certain spirits that clearly do not like humans; if Korra was still connected to the previous Avatars she would know a spirit like Koh the face stealer shouldn't be free to wander the human world.
Or hell, the scorpion/spider spirit that Tenzin and his siblings encountered. In fact, why the hell didn't Tenzin tell Korra that it's a bad idea to just allow any and all spirits come to the human world when the vast majority of the spirits he met in the spirit world weren't friendly to humans?
I wasn't a fan of Vaatu, but I shall miss his mighty Inception Cannon. (Seriously, any time he attacked, there was a loud BWOOOOOONG)
Speaking of Vaatu, I seriously don't know where the series can go after this. Korra just fought and defeated the embodiment of evil. Where the fuck do you go after that?
Unalaq was a total non-entity this season. Any potential thing they could have done with the character was ignored to make him Evil McEvilton.
As for the Dark Avatar thing, there was something interesting that could have been done with that, but instead they went giant kaiju. Just imagine a sort of false avatar going around preaching a philosophy of selfishness and destruction, gaining more and more followers forming a dark cult. Sort of like Amon, but if he actually had the power to back it up.
I think Giant Korra was an asspull, but no more of an asspull than Aang learning EnergyBending. Jinora, on the other hand was a complete and total asspull.
The way they wrapped up the romance was quite frankly the only way they could end it without it being awful
I liked the stuff with Bolin and Tenzin's family. The stuff with Mako was almost bearable, but it really shows the problem with the show when the title character is the least enjoyable thing about the show.
A very mixed bag. I didn't hate it, but it's a clear downgrade from the first season and the original series. I'd give it a 7/10.
8) Yes, clearly the world is safe having large temperamental spirits stomping around. Just like how lions interact so swimmingly with cities in the real world....oh right no they don't, because lions EAT people. The spirits had tensions with the humans long before Wan, and they'll clearly have tensions now that the worlds are connected. This is a terrible change and Korra's a bloody idiot for thinking otherwise.
Another reason why portal use should be limited or even closed between worlds. There are certain spirits that clearly do not like humans; if Korra was still connected to the previous Avatars she would know a spirit like Koh the face stealer shouldn't be free to wander the human world.
Or hell, the scorpion/spider spirit that Tenzin and his siblings encountered. In fact, why the hell didn't Tenzin tell Korra that it's a bad idea to just allow any and all spirits come to the human world when the vast majority of the spirits he met in the spirit world weren't friendly to humans?
To be honest I'm not even sure I got the whole portals thing to start with. I think that was the stupid thing to introduce. We've seen a whole heap of spirits in the human world prior to one/both portals being opened. Jinora's invisible bunnies, Moon fish, Library Owl, Angry Panda, face stealer ( since he stole previous water bender avatar's girlfriend's face), plus all of Unalaq's dark spirit buddies.
Human's seemed to be able to visit the spirit world too. Aang did so a few times in tLA, allegedly air benders could do so, Iroh apparently, and Korra and Jinora did too.
I don't understand the significance of closed/open portals at all. If it makes sense to anyone I'd appreciate an explanation.
Anyway my thoughts on the finale are fairly similar to everyone else's:
The love triangle was the most tedious aspect of season 1 and I'm not sure having no Mako/Korra was worth enduring more of it in season 2. At least Bolin wasn't mixed up this time and hopefully there'll be no more dating within Team Avatar from here on.
Ending just seemed like it was trying too hard for a big climax.
Post Ravaa being destroyed it got super ridiculous. I can forgive it for being stupid plot wise simply because visually I really enjoy big stupid fight scenes. The 'dark avatar' idea was silly but I guess I understand why they did it. Being a fully-fledged avatar that can draw on the power and experience of previous avatars it makes sense that there shouldn't really be any single human that can put up a fight. I guess that's why they got rid of the previous avatars.
That being the case, her turning all giant and powerful may not have been a great plan.
Quite enjoyed how Varrik maintained character even after being revealed as a villain. I thought he was really well done.
Biggest mistake in my opinion was separating Team Avatar through most of the season though. They weren't even consistently working towards the same goal. It just made a lot of the stories feel like pointless filler. I want to see the main characters interacting with each other not 4 half-arsed stories happening concurrently. Also totally disappointing that the animal companions were nearly completely ignored. Not so much because I think they're great characters but because I start to feel uneasy when animals are neglected.
Tenzin's family is fine for a supporting cast but I'd prefer that the show focused more on team avatar and their exploits/accomplishments. Tenzin's family have had bigger 'hero moments' and greater significance to defeating the big bad than Mako, Bolin or Asami which really makes those guys feel unnecessary.
Anyway didn't hate it and overall it's still decent TV but I had higher expectations.
Oh come on. Did they really show the thing online? This is bullshit. I don't want to watch it on the computer and now I still have to wait a week to figure out what happens.
I'll wait...just wish I understood the logic in them pulling a stunt like this. Seriously I know the first episode of Korra was leaked onto the web but officially putting it out there before the air date a week in advance. What were they thinking? Were they drunk or high when they did it? It just makes no sense to me at all really.
<a href=http://korranation.tumblr.com/post/67056426031/heres-our-big-news-straight-from-janet-varney>This explains why. Only took 2 hours to hit the goal.
Dirty Hipsters said:
No, the deus ex machina was Jinora appearing out of nowhere with the revived Rava spirit.
The way they explained that Vatu and Rava's relationship worked is that once every 10,000 years one destroyed the other. Then for the next 10,000 years the destroyed spirit would regrow itself within the winning spirit, and then finally emerge again for their next battle.
After Rava was destroyed by Vatu it should have taken 10,000 years for her to get revived again, but Jinora did completely unexplained magic and just brought Rava back because...reasons I guess.
And THIS is the only true problem I had with the finale. Raava was vanquished and would not return for 10k years. There should have been literally nothing to stop Vaatu. Not spiritbending Korra, not all the spirits of the spiritworld working together, nothing. When Raava was slain, I pretty much stopped having faith in this going anywhere good.
...However, the Avatar Chain being broken is a major double edged sword. I don't think the former Avatar spirits were destroyed, merely the link between them all was severed. However, not being able to call on them easily for backstory and other such things is a major loss. I liked the times when Kyoshi was brought up, and the scene where Aang communed with previous Avatars on the Lion Turtle in TLA. There'll be none of that really going on unless Korra manages to find one of them wandering around and manages to chat.
A little niggling thing that I seem to be the only one to mind was how in TLA, the Avatar was implied if not directly stated to gain all the bending power of all their previous lives put together. The Avatar does nothing but grow more powerful with each successive life. Korra had thousands. Unalaak had one. She should have utterly crushed him the first time around since it was a one on one fight. Not to mention the whole part where Raava specifically stated she was bonded forever with the Avatar, and yet Vaatu can somehow rip them apart. I get dramatic tension and all, but they're throwing out previous conventions left and right for the sake of it. I woulda preferred if Unalaak/Vaatu had all the dark spirits work with them to imprison Korra in the tree, then have her use the tree to astrally project with Raava. Maybe have Jinora break their prison after Vaatu is slain.
Varrick's bloody great, but Unalaq remained a fairly meh villain; which is a shame because I quite liked Tarrlok and Amon.
I thought there was some great development for Tenzin and his family, but the resolutions for Korra's friends were glossed over a bit. And the interaction with the spirit world was creative, but I would have liked to see more of it throughout the season.
I'm not sure how to feel about the idea of eliminating the barrier to the spirit world either. I know it's supposed to be the idea of forging peace without separation, but I'm just picturing all the Eldritch Abominations (Koh, the Fog of Lost Souls, etc) being unleashed upon the world.
Caramel Frappe said:
My thoughts on both Seasons of Legend of Korra
<spoiler=Seasons Spoiler>Poor Asami. Seriously, in the first season she loses her dad and despite many felt she'd betray the crew... she didn't. Yet Mako broke her heart without even dumping her in person only to end up with Korra. Then her business goes down thanks to Varrick, and then again gets humiliated in person, in front of EVERYONE as Mako allows Korra to kiss him and doesn't tell her that they broke up since Korra can't remember. Worst of all, Asami wasn't needed and told to take Korra's dad to safety. Talk about degrading a good character to the dirt.
.... The seasons 1 an 2 were good but could use better writing. The first season's villain was great but the ending to season 1 felt rushed. Wan was an awesome avatar despite having only two episodes to himself thus we may never see him again.... *sigh*. I really hope no more filler crap gets shipped in and for the love of god stop making important characters like Asami and Lin feel like background characters or lower! Though Eska is my favorite character cause she's hilarious and I love her personality lol XD
I hope the next season gives Asami a central role. She's been shafted both finales.
For now it'll help if they just take a step back from any more love triangles involving Mako.
That wasn't a Deus Ex Machina ending.
It was a double Chekov's Gun ending.
It was pre-established that on their own accord Vaatu and Raava were unkillable. As long as one lived, the other would live.
It was also pre-established that an Avatar dying in the Avatar state would die permanently.
That made it completely logical that Raava would survive after being destroyed outside Korra's body, and it provided the solution to killing Vaatu permanently while he inhabited Unalaq.
I saw that ending coming from MILES away. You can't predict a Deus Ex Machina since they by definition come out of nowhere.
The Deus Ex Machina was Jinora showing up and doing...Whatever the hell it was she did to make Raava suddenly appear even though a couple of seconds ago she wasn't there.
That wasn't a Deus Ex Machina either.
That was a plot point that was well explained immediately leading up to the ending.
Jinora is highly in tune with the spirit world and knew she had to go save Korra.
That was either just the end of a story arc or another Chekov's Gun, if you have the memory of a goldfish.
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and now I still have to wait a week to figure out what happens.
