Leipzig Games Convention - The Xbox 360 Irony.

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Indigo_Dingo post=9.69702.671810 said:
ElArabDeMagnifico post=9.69702.671730 said:
Indigo_Dingo post=9.69702.671688 said:
ElArabDeMagnifico post=9.69702.671653 said:
Guys I am STILL confused, people say "nooooo, best game on the 360, not for" - but it says "best 360 game" - which should mean "best game you could play that's made for 360" - so 'exclusive' comes to mind.

Now the theory about where Leipzig is set and their banning of Gears and probably fable because it will have a black screen and sex sounds for 10 seconds, makes a LOT more sense.
However, Resistance: Retributions presence sort of shoots that in the foot.
I think that's an unfair comparison, I mean, that's a handheld - of course it'll be an exclusive.
What does it being a handheld exclusive have to do with the content being probably as objectionable as the stuff in Gears 2 and Fable II?
Or it could be because germans have a distaste for americans while they <3 there old pals the japs?:p(Seriously i'm wondering this.)
 

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Ivoryagent post=9.69702.671762 said:
ElArabDeMagnifico post=9.69702.671730 said:
Anyway, if they are going to decide "what is the best game the 360 has" and it's some non-exclusive EA title, it just really sounds like they missed the whole point of picking a game to showcase the 360.
But that's the thing. They're NOT showcasing the Xbox 360. They are simply picking which game is best on the platform.

Isn't that what showcasing the 360 is? "Mirrors Edge is the best game you can get for the 360!" - if they aren't showcasing the 360, what's the point of saying "Best [system] game"?



Ivoryagent post=9.69702.671762 said:
What does it being a handheld exclusive have to do with the content being probably as objectionable as the stuff in Gears 2 and Fable II?
Just look at screenshots of CoD4 DS, and CoD4 PC, and you'll know what I mean.
 

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Weeeeeee.

Anyways, the point of the post is that most times the "Best Game for XXX Console" is a game developed specifically for that console. This isn't rocket science. If I saw the same thing awarded to a PS3 or Wii - I would have made the same "Irony/Funny" post....it's not anti-360 specifically, more an observation.
 

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Ivoryagent post=9.69702.671910 said:
ElArabDeMagnifico post=9.69702.671836 said:
Ivoryagent post=9.69702.671762 said:
What does it being a handheld exclusive have to do with the content being probably as objectionable as the stuff in Gears 2 and Fable II?
Just look at screenshots of CoD4 DS, and CoD4 PC, and you'll know what I mean.
Wait a minute, I didn't say that.
Weird, I dunno how that happened, but uhh, anyway just ignore it, it's a glitch.

Back to the topic at hand.
 

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Jarrid post=9.69702.671916 said:
Bollocks. Exclusivity holds about as much weight as what flavour your bagel is.
It's a smokescreen used to further fan the flames of the console fanboy wars. Meanwhile, the PC gamers sit back and laugh at you silly tw@s as the same games Microsoft and Sony brag about having all to themselves, get slowly made into even better PC versions.
Woo, my first post on these forums... but to address your point, I think there's actually a big advantage to having first party exclusives. It allows developers who could never survive on their own to keep on making games. Take Team Ico for example. They've made two games, both of which were brilliant, but both of which flopped. If they were independant or working for a third party publisher then they'd all be out of a job by now, but because they're owned by Sony they keep on getting support to make their masterpieces. Why? Because they're system sellers. It's not just the game they're selling, it's the console. So you see first party developers are encouraged to make their games better instead of just more popular, since they have to achieve a much higher standard to be system sellers than they do to just make a profit on the game. So... yeah. Go first post, go!
 

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Jarrid post=9.69702.671916 said:
Bollocks. Exclusivity holds about as much weight as what flavour your bagel is.
It's a smokescreen used to further fan the flames of the console fanboy wars. Meanwhile, the PC gamers sit back and laugh at you silly tw@s as the same games Microsoft and Sony brag about having all to themselves, get slowly made into even better PC versions.
YES! WE GET IT! PC gamers are gods, they laugh at us console gamers because we play a game for some fun instead of oogling graphics and wanting more precise aiming, they're so "supirior" that they apparantly have time to go down from their thrones made of motherboards and pop in everynow and again to mock console people wether or not they're arguing for the sake of it or because one is a dick.[/saracam]

If you're such a god, then just leave us to ourselves and murder eachother on our own. You know, like a real god does ;)

And if what you say is true, then exclusivity does hold a huge weight because I don't like poppyseed bagels or anyother bagel besides plain or seasame seed ;)

Jeez, this thread is going all over the place.
 

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OK, once again, if the 360 can't win in the 360 category, then what the hell is the point of saying "best [system] game"? - Fable 2 is a 360 game because it's a 360 exclusive, Mirrors Edge is a multiplatform game with a 360 version, there is a difference, big or small, it's still there.

Gosh, Codgo was right, you guys can turn piss in to fire by looking at it.
 

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ElArabDeMagnifico post=9.69702.672104 said:
OK, once again, if the 360 can't win in the 360 category, then what the hell is the point of saying "best [system] game"? - Fable 2 is a 360 game because it's a 360 exclusive, Mirrors Edge is a multiplatform game with a 360 version, there is a difference, big or small, it's still there.

Gosh, Codgo was right, you guys can turn piss in to fire by looking at it.
I like to think that one day the evilness in me will amass and be able to stare at people and make their heads explode. But thats a little while off and 10,000 baby munchs.

:O

It really says a lot like you said if a game made for many consoles seems better then one specialized.
 

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Indigo_Dingo post=9.69702.672126 said:
Jarrid post=9.69702.671916 said:
Indigo_Dingo post=9.69702.668273 said:
Actually, exclusivity is important - its a big factor in deciding what console you get. It also defines how well a game will run on the console.
Bollocks. Exclusivity holds about as much weight as what flavour your bagel is.
It's a smokescreen used to further fan the flames of the console fanboy wars. Meanwhile, the PC gamers sit back and laugh at you silly tw@s as the same games Microsoft and Sony brag about having all to themselves, get slowly made into even better PC versions.
Oh really? Where is the PC version of Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted or MGS IV? That only works against 360 owners, man.
Sony atleast has a nice relationship with its people. So far from what I have seen Insomniac love working with sony.(And can't be bought by microsoft, Nor can the makers of GoW.)
 

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Indigo_Dingo post=9.69702.672126 said:
Oh really? Where is the PC version of Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted or MGS IV? That only works against 360 owners, man.
Curses! He has us bang to rights! Who would assume that a console created by the biggest computer company out there would port their games to PC?

It's almost as if they have some kind of preference to having money...
 

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Geo Da Sponge post=9.69702.672150 said:
Indigo_Dingo post=9.69702.672126 said:
Oh really? Where is the PC version of Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted or MGS IV? That only works against 360 owners, man.
Curses! He has us bang to rights! Who would assume that a console created by the biggest computer company out there would port their games to PC?

It's almost as if they have some kind of preference to having money...
At the cost of damaging the Xbox brand itself yes. The problem isn't that they do these ports it's that they have become a given. When games like Mass Effect simply can't load themselves, and the PC version runs far better than the console version it makes the 360 a less attractive product overall.
 

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Eggo post=9.69702.672196 said:
Indigo_Dingo post=9.69702.672126 said:
Oh really? Where is the PC version of Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Uncharted or MGS IV? That only works against 360 owners, man.
PC gamers...Are we really missing much?
Having just finished MGS4 and GTA4 at a friend's place - yes, oh yes we are.
 

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Eggo post=9.69702.672215 said:
I'll take Yahtzee's opinion of MGS4 and Heavenly Sword over your opinion, please don't take any offense! :p

Oh and GTA4 is coming out to the PC :]
Yahtzee can't be trusted. He has to make a game out to be shit or else there arn't as many site hits.
 

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Eggo post=9.69702.672215 said:
I'll take Yahtzee's opinion of MGS4 and Heavenly Sword over your opinion, please don't take any offense! :p

Oh and GTA4 is coming out to the PC :]
No offense taken, but just remember - if you take Yahtzee's opinion you would be playing NO GAMES AT ALL. He tears all of them to shreds.