Let him be in peace already damnit!

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Reverend Del

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As regards plastic surgery, body dismorphia disorder is a rare but entirely real thing. I have a friend with it. Bloke simply isn't happy with the way he looks and constant tattoos and piercings just reinforce his unhappiness. As for the theme park and the kids, well so long as he wasn't abusing the kids he invited over (an issue not actually helped by throwing money at the lawsuits) he was having fun, so were the kids, who gives damn if it's appropriate?

Jackson was a phenomenal artist in his day. King of Pop, certainly was. Sold more albums,had more genuine talent, than 90% of this manufactured rubbish they tell us is good these days.

OT: I've been to Morrison's grave. It's in Paris. There's a security guard there to stop people digging the damn thing up. It's also small and dingy, tucked away. Compared to that a little media coverage is hardly a desecration of the mans legacy.
 

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Michael Jackson? His family loved the publicity, and used it to their advantage to get money for themselves. It was disgusting.
It wasn't just his family, it was EVERYONE. But yeah, I agree completely.

I mean, I personally hated Michael Jackson for how he was acting near his death, but nobody deserves that.
 

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The Hairminator said:
Back on topic; anyone noticed how no one cared for Michael Jackson until he died, then suddenly he became the indisputable KING OF POP, and his musical genious was the greatest the world had seen etc.
i agree so much you can't even begin to understand
everyone was making pedophile jokes about him liking young boys and once he kicked the bucket everyone changed their tune. like WTF?
he was an alright singer and I like Billie jean but i am not going to idolize him as being the king of pop or something so grand when he was just making music.
Like a previous poster said, you guys were obviously not around when he WAS the King of Pop.
If you had lived during his reign in the 80's, you'd have understood why everyone said that.
 

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Kurt Kobain for my money.

Only because I believe he was overrated, and the best thing that came from this was the Foo Fighters.

What I dislike are the people of average talent that die and then somehow their death makes everyone flip and think they were fantastic.

He wasn't terrible though was he if anything Dave Grohl and the Foo fighters are defently more overated than nirvana will ever be
 

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I'm surprised I havn't been bombarded will Dio merchandise since his death. But in a way its sad, its as though everyone has just forgot about him.
Didn't Joey DeMaio from Manowar release a tribute album? There was some minor controversy over that because apparently Dio's wife said that the profits weren't going to the charities Dio supported. Or something like that. Don't quote me on it.

Anyhow I'm really sick of all the MIchael Jackson stuff, hopefully it'll die down and the poor guy can just rest in goddamn peace, but that's not likely since he's making so much right now.
I didn't hear anything bout that tribute album, but you may well be right. I haven't seen much myself but I'm sure there was alot of people paying tribute to him in other ways... But nothing to the scale of Micheal Jackson, e.g that movie, This Is It
EDIT: Not that I expected a Dio movie or anything, but some Dio tribute acts in the local venue would have been appreciated.
Yeah, DeMaio's Magic Circle label (including Manowar) did a Dio tribute album. I seem to remember there being a bit of controversy about them trying to make money out of his death, but I'm not sure whether that was the intention or whether it was a genuine tribute; after all, DeMaio was an old friend of Dio.
 

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Madeleine (you know the little girl who dissapeared in Portugal)
She was only exploited by the news stations so that they'd have something interesting to report on (for almost two years,nonstop)
OOOOOOOoooooh, yes, her. Every single day, it was "Exclusive! We still don't know what happened!" They only paused for the anniversary special commemoration of Jade Goody's death and then it was right back to Maddie.

Facts and figures [http://www.missingchildreneurope.eu/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=77:facts-and-figures&catid=56:facts-and-figures&Itemid=97]

* In the UK (population: 61 MIO) it is estimated that 140 000 cases of missing children are reported annually (383/day). This covers all reports, not only the cases treated by Missing Children Europe?s Member Missing People (see below).
You could fill a Sunday supplement with the week's unresolved disappearances every week, but nooo, there was just that one case all over the papers every day for however long and then Maddie One Year On: We Still Don't Know Anything (see pages 2 to 13).
 

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Spacefly said:
Betancore said:
Spacefly said:
I'm surprised I havn't been bombarded will Dio merchandise since his death. But in a way its sad, its as though everyone has just forgot about him.
Didn't Joey DeMaio from Manowar release a tribute album? There was some minor controversy over that because apparently Dio's wife said that the profits weren't going to the charities Dio supported. Or something like that. Don't quote me on it.

Anyhow I'm really sick of all the MIchael Jackson stuff, hopefully it'll die down and the poor guy can just rest in goddamn peace, but that's not likely since he's making so much right now.
I didn't hear anything bout that tribute album, but you may well be right. I haven't seen much myself but I'm sure there was alot of people paying tribute to him in other ways... But nothing to the scale of Micheal Jackson, e.g that movie, This Is It
EDIT: Not that I expected a Dio movie or anything, but some Dio tribute acts in the local venue would have been appreciated.
I hadn't heard anything about that, but I do know that Jorn Lande recently released a Dio tribute album, simply titled "Dio", to some controversy since it was perceived to be a tad bit tasteless; his label ended up pointing out he'd been working on it since 2009 though, so it wasn't (originally) prompted by his death so much as coincidental in its timing.
 

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Jade Goody makes me sick. She was racist on TV, then she suddenly got cancer and died, but she's made out to be a hero. It's disgusting.

Another person who has been mentioned wayy too often after their death would be Michael Jackson, but any point I'd have to say on the subject has already been said.
 

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Dying is always a good career move. It gets free publicity.
Exactly, dead people can still make money.

I think this song sums it up quite well :D
If there's an easy buck to be made, morals often come in second place.

Also: Drincess flippin' Diana. It's been over a decade since the poor woman died, yet still the Daily Express will drudge something up on her or the events surrounding her death to slap on the front page on a day when not much else is happening.
 

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SO I was listening to the Radio the other day in the car and after playing 10 song by The Doors, the announcer comes on and gets all nostalgic, saying that he sincerely misses Jim Morrison and that he was a wonderful musician and that he hopes they comes out with a tribute package in order to give a full taste of his musical prowess.

Now I'm going to set the fact that I personally do not like the music of The Doors. I personally don't like the vocals. I'm also setting aside the very OBVIOUS marketing that I heard in the tone of the radio host. I digress.

Have you ever heard of an artist that has been long, or recently dead, and just wished that for five seconds people would let them rest in peace?

For example: When Heath Ledger passed away, sure there was a large fuss due to an iconic image leaving us, but for the longest time afterwards merchandise, movie packages, and everything that could be tied to Heath's name was being marketted and sold. The dude just passed away, why must they market his death?

What are your thoughts and opinions? Are there any artists that you think should just be allowed to rest and not be marketed about?
Let him rest in peace?? How the hell is being nostalgic and merely mentioning someone who is dead equate to not letting them rest in peace? They aren't exhuming his remains or anything, or dessecrating his grave. I think you have more going on with this subject then merely wishing for people to respect the dead... and besides, Jim Morrison is in no postiion to really give a shit.

And capitalizing on ones death is a very old ploy... entire religions have been built on it. As soon as someone is dead we have a tendancy to give them more leniancy and thought, it's just how people are. It's not hardly a moderm phenomenon.
This is why I'm Anti-Capitalist and Anti-Religious. They exploit the passing of an artist by (every now and then) reselling everything and making more money. I don't care if it's been done ni the past. Infact, the more it's done, the worse it gets. People are making money off the fact that they died. it's not about being nostalgic, it's about making money.
For the giant corporations and record companites, yes, it is about profit. But if it didn't bring some semblance of happiness and satisfaction to the people that buy these things then they wouldn't be capitaliizing on it. If there is no market for it then there is no reason to try and sell it, so blame the people who actually enjoy these things if you feel the need to blame someone, not the ones providing them with something they enjoy. But even that is a pointless venture, and it's really none of your concern anyways.
 

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I don't really mind the attention given to a celebrity that has actually earned their fame:
Michael Jackson (like it or not he changed music)
Kurt Cobain (I've always hated Nirvana)
Jim Morrison
Jimi Hendrix
Elvis Presley
Buddy Holly
John Lennon
Richard Pryor
George Carlin

When people like that die it is as though part of that generation/time period goes with them. There will never be another.

Now if someone can tell me why Anna Nicole Smith mattered I would be grateful.
 

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Mechsoap said:
Cassassin said:
Woodsey said:
Cassassin said:
Michael Jackson? His family loved the publicity, and used it to their advantage to get money for themselves. It was disgusting.
Didn't they get like a billion dollars (literally) in the year since he died?

Anyway, I've always been suspect of his father - Jackson died, and his Dad was interviewed 2 days later and he kept going on about getting to manage the business side of things.
Exactly! They even used it to release their own bloody songs. Janet even went on the X Factor! Half of them sided against him during all the allegations so they could make money selling storys to newspapers, but suddenly when he dies they are all angels and act as thought they always supported him no matter what!
it was a terrifing day at school when he died, the principle came in all classes and made a tribute to him while half my class was singing his songs all day. disgusting in my opinion
This is why the media jumps on it.
 

Eekaida

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Hate to echo what everyone else has said, but definitly Micheal Jackson. I mean, his family (mainly his father) didn't screw him up enough when he waa alive? They had to go and televise his FUNERAL?! Talk about taking any dignity the man had left.

Also, Jade Goody. Annoying as fuck when she was alive, but now her uber-chav widow keeps trying to grab headlines with his latest crap - being accused of rape and having your kids taken away isn't something I'd give an interview about.
 

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dex-dex said:
Tom Phoenix said:
dex-dex said:
The Hairminator said:
Back on topic; anyone noticed how no one cared for Michael Jackson until he died, then suddenly he became the indisputable KING OF POP, and his musical genious was the greatest the world had seen etc.
i agree so much you can't even begin to understand
everyone was making pedophile jokes about him liking young boys and once he kicked the bucket everyone changed their tune. like WTF?
he was an alright singer and I like Billie jean but i am not going to idolize him as being the king of pop or something so grand when he was just making music.
Michael Jackson has been considered the "King of Pop" since the 1980`s....You must be either really young or never listened to his music to think that this was some sort of recent trend.
uh no i am fully aware about how popular he was in 1980's
but before he became deceased many people were calling him a pedophile and then once he kicked the bucket everyone under 15 realized that he was truly the king of pop and started putting MJ's face on everything.
Oh, that is what you meant. Yes, unfortunately, some people tend to be two-faced in terms of celebrities. However, Jackson's fans always considered him the "King of Pop"....