Lets be honest about Mass Effect/Bioware

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Gnmish

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Ok so the ending was a let down for a lot of people, I personally was more disappointed than enraged as they obviously could have done a better job given the scope of the project. However, if Bioware announced a new ME game set say 100 years in the "future-future" where you get to see the repercussions of the events in ME3, are you seriously telling me you wouldn't be interested in buying it?

Who is up to rebuilding relays? who controls the Citadel? - provided it survived, have the races managed to coexist, or is there a new war? Can your new character make it with Aria T'loak

You've already gone through the pain of the ending and all of its holes and uncertainty, why not enjoy a much more complex storyline that the previous ending would provide.

If everything stayed the same at the end of ME3, the next story would just be oh-ho-hum Shepard just discovered another threat to the galaxy .
 

Tumedus

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Actually, no. The only reason to get such a product is if you care about the story or the characterizations.

Alas the people that made really good stories and interesting characters seem to have either left or lost their way.

Given their recent story telling capability, DA2, SWTOR, and ME3, I see no reason to commit to a BW product that focuses on story until they learn how to tell one again.
 

Evil mr dave

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this is off topic but how do you create a topic in the forum?

ot: As long as Bioware is partered with EA and abides by there buisness practices and schedules they arnt going to get another cent of my hard earned money.

capcha: CARBON FOOTPRINT
 

mavkiel

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Yes, I am not interested. Got burned once with da2, got burned again with me3. I have certainly learned my lesson. Frankly I thought me3 was lackluster in the story/quest department. To the point where it made da2 quests look good.

Seriously, who wants more scan a planet get a random item and throw it at an npc you overheard talking quests?
 

AD-Stu

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Absolutely I'd be interested - but it's got a major problem. One of the ME3 endings has everyone in the galaxy turned into half-organic-half-robot hybrids, another one has the Reapers still floating around under the control of the spirit of Space-Jesus-Shepard, one of them the Reapers killed everyone and the other one was actually good (IMO :p).

I don't see how they reconcile all of those possibilities into a single game without declaring one of them canon. Bioware have done that before with the series, so I wouldn't put it past them, but can you imagine the sheer levels of whingeing that would result? I think either a recent-past setting or a side story around the period of the original ME games would be easier to implement / more likely... though like I said, I really don't put anything past Bioware/EA :p
 

AwkwardTurtle

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I love how presumptuous your title and opening post was. In all honesty it got me to chuckle. Seriously don't get offended because I found your title/opening post to be presumptuous.

In all honesty I can easily and firmly say "No. I would not be particularly interested in any sort of sequel/prequel/continuation of a story in the Mass Effect universe."

I'm simply not that interested.

I suppose I've just grown tired of Bioware's work. The quality in both ME3 and DA2 were significantly lower when compared to their previous games like DA:Origins and ME2.

I suppose if they made something similar to that, I'd apathetically check out some news on it since it would probably be a big news story for many sites. I'm just really skeptical on the quality of any future games coming from Bioware. So any news about their future games gets a resounding "meh" from me, personally.
 

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DA2 is tripe, TOR is a lazy Bioware paint by numbers coloring book, and ME3 shit the bed so hard there is no bleach strong enough. Yes I'm seriously telling you I'm not going to buy it.
 

Rooster Cogburn

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They haven't made a good game since Dragon Age: Origins. And Dragon Age and Mass Effect weren't that good. I thought they showed promise, but as Bioware has proven time and again they cannot or will not use their talents to make a solid title... Yes. I'm really telling you I'm not interested.

If your question is: "If you knew the game would be good, would you be interested?" then yes. Obviously.
 

Awexsome

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ME3 had a bad ending and now has DLC that has made it better. Take away the last 10 minutes and it still totally deserves the 10's it's gotten and including the ending I'd make it a 9.

The people who act like ME3 was a terrible game are really full of shit. The ME series didn't just suddenly suck overnight because of a subpar ending that was heavily edited after the initial reaction. A lot of people were already going into it with full intentions of hatred on it and it was everywhere.

It's still a phenomenal series. I'd buy another starting a new saga in the universe.
 

Shocksplicer

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Let's be honest about Mass Effect/ Bioware? OK, I'll be honest.

I would honestly be in favour of making a law which makes the creation of these fucking threads a hanging offence.

The game has been out for almost six months. This exact thread has already been made literally hundreds of times on this site alone. You are doing nothing new, in fact all you are doing is annoying everyone.

Kindly shut up about it.
 

lowkey_jotunn

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Fr said:
anc[is]DA2 is tripe, TOR is a lazy Bioware paint by numbers coloring book, and ME3 shit the bed so hard there is no bleach strong enough. Yes I'm seriously telling you I'm not going to buy it.
So very much this, especially as far as ME is concerned.

Yes, the ending was awful in ways discussed ad nauseum when it was released. However, that shit-kabob ending only served to distract from the rest of the game which was bland and uninteresting. The quests were garbage, hell the whole quest interface was crap ...

The technicolor yawn that comprised the ending is really the only reason I remember anything about ME3.

Oh, that, and those fucking ridiculous nightmare sequences...

So, to answer the OP question: No, I would not be interested in ME4, regardless of when it takes place or what open ends it promises to tie up. If BioWare was somehow able to break away from EA and make a sequel on their own ... then maybe. Maybe I'd pick it up on Steam Sale a year after release, for $5-10
 

psicat

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Of course I want to buy another Mass Effect game if it comes out. I buy Bioware games because they are incredibly fun. I've enjoyed every Bioware game I've bought from Baldurs Gate to Mass Effect 3. Even Dragon Age 2 for all that it was incredibly rushed and a little buggy was fun. Hopefully Bioware/EA will continue making games for many years to come and eventually revisit the future of the Mass Effect universe.
 

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Evil mr dave said:
this is off topic but how do you create a topic in the forum?

ot: As long as Bioware is partered with EA and abides by there buisness practices and schedules they arnt going to get another cent of my hard earned money.

capcha: CARBON FOOTPRINT
1. Hit 'Forums' in the upper right corner of the screen.

2. Select which forum you wish to go to by clicking it.

3. Hit "New Topic" on the left on the blue bar at the top of the list of forums.

4. Go crazy w/ your new toy.

Oh, and one more--

5. If you want to add a Poll just check the box under the Thread box, but don't put "Poll" in your Poll title because the system automatically does that for you.

Also the system screws up the Poll descriptions all the time, so you may have to go back in and edit them. Sometimes it takes a few minutes for it to work through the system. And several tries.

P.S. I just made a new thread. It's got a Poll. It's in the Off Topic forum. It's about Death Valley. Would somebody PLEASE go there and vote. I've gotten a lousy 3 votes in 2 hours.

Hey, I'm not too proud to beg.

OT: I'm not going to forsake BioWare. I'll just wait to see the general response to any new game of theirs before I decide to buy it.
 

King of Asgaard

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Bioware don't write good stories, ever. They write good characters.
Every one of their stories is just repackaged clichéd schlock, but it's their characters that make their games memorable for some.
Now I didn't buy any ME games, only DA:O, which left me sorely disappointed, so I won't be buying any of their games in the foreseeable future.
 

Something Amyss

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Gnmish said:
However, if Bioware announced a new ME game set say 100 years in the "future-future" where you get to see the repercussions of the events in ME3, are you seriously telling me you wouldn't be interested in buying it?
Yup.

You've already gone through the pain of the ending and all of its holes and uncertainty, why not enjoy a much more complex storyline that the previous ending would provide.
"You've already sat through a shitty ending, now buy the next game in the hopes that a deteriorating company whose best creative minds might put out something good!"

Ummmm...Yeah.

If everything stayed the same at the end of ME3, the next story would just be oh-ho-hum Shepard just discovered another threat to the galaxy .
Except the largest complaints aren't that things changed. Strawman/false dichotomy combo!

Seriously, though, I'm surprised this false notion of what Retake was about actually survived longer than the movement itself.
 

Something Amyss

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King of Asgaard said:
Bioware don't write good stories, ever. They write good characters.
Every one of their stories is just repackaged clichéd schlock, but it's their characters that make their games memorable for some.
Now I didn't buy any ME games, only DA:O, which left me sorely disappointed, so I won't be buying any of their games in the foreseeable future.
THANK YOU.

I wish more people realised this.

I'll say ME1 was good. ME2 was downhill and I don't give a damn about ME3.
 

sumanoskae

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The Mass Effect series doesn't need a sequel. Unless they just want to redo the whole ending, (The extended cut fixed some of the problems, it could be a lot better, but I don't think it ruins the rest of the game anymore) Shepards story should come to an end. If a new game is made, it shouldn't be about picking up the pieces of the last game, it should be something completely different.

The world of Mass Effect should continue, but not tethered to the main series. I would in fact buy another game based on Mass Effect lore, but not if it had anything to do with Shepard.

Lots of people started to loose faith in BioWare after DA2 and the ending to ME3 exacerbated the issue. But 99% of ME3 was magnificent. Sure, the ending sucked, but it's even been made clear that one of the reasons for that was because basically none of the writing staff was involved.

So like 7 fantastic games over the years, one that was just decent, and one of the best ones dropped the ball on the ending. I'd say that track record is pretty good, overall.
 

znix

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Most games post Infinity-Engine era have been garbage. Even those supposedly great ones (KTOR) aren't that great from a game play and story perspective. Good characters mostly, but the rest was shit.

It seems Bioware lost its way after it ditched the fleshed out world of Dungeons and Dragons. Back then, it had everything already made. Setting, history, mechanics. Aside from game assets they had freedom and time to focus on story, missions and game play.

I'm currently replaying Baldur's Gate I and II and still find it as fresh as the first time.

I've been excited to hear about Bioware games for a long time, but I realize it's the monumental impact of its original games that has held sway. These days I can with conviction declare that anything Bioware puts out will be crap. Probably polished to a high shine, but ultimately devoid of soul and real substance.