lets be honest, does part of you want the apocolypse?
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Every year I go off the grid for a couple weeks. I grab my gear get dropped off 60 miles from the nearest town in the middle of the Cascade Mountains, near waldo national forest in Oregon. I then proceed to ruff it.
I hunt and trap small game, fish, and forage. I brought my blow gun last year but couldn't hit anything with it, bow is easier. I also brought a solar cell to recharge my ipod, cheating but it keeps moral up.
Good times, but it does get pretty damn cold and boring once the sun goes down, even with some music. I end up spending over half my day gathering wood to keep my fire going. Food is really abundant out there if you know what to eat.
I'm sure I can survive most apocalypse scenarios; so long as I'm not the unfortunate bastard whos house the meteor fell on...
I hunt and trap small game, fish, and forage. I brought my blow gun last year but couldn't hit anything with it, bow is easier. I also brought a solar cell to recharge my ipod, cheating but it keeps moral up.
Good times, but it does get pretty damn cold and boring once the sun goes down, even with some music. I end up spending over half my day gathering wood to keep my fire going. Food is really abundant out there if you know what to eat.
I'm sure I can survive most apocalypse scenarios; so long as I'm not the unfortunate bastard whos house the meteor fell on...
Thanks for the speedy reply.Housebroken Lunatic said:
It's true that Christians do pray for a variety of things, and I apologize if I implied anything to the contrary. I devoted the first portion of my previous post to "apocalypse related" prayer because that was what was being addressed in your quote, however, I did not intend to limit my entire exposition to that area of prayer alone.If you'd indulge me, I'd like to try to tackle this subject from a slightly different angle by first making a distinction you may find helpful.Housebroken Lunatic said:
1) There is a perfect will of God (Romans 12:2, Colossians 4:12.)
2) There is also a permissive will of God; not everything that happens on the earth happens according to God's perfect will. To demonstrate this, I refer to my previous example of salvation: 1 Timothy 2:3-4 states that it is God's will for everyone to be saved, while Romans 10:9-10 states how men receive salvation. Based on the salvation message in Romans 10 and the reality we see in peoples lives, we can conclude that not everyone is saved. Thus, not everyone is living according to God's perfect will.
So, God's perfect will isn't going to happen automatically in our lives, and is actually dependent on us (to some degree.) Well then, do we just have to fumble through life hoping that we're lucky enough to achieve God's perfect will? Thankfully, no.
Ephesians 5:17 tells us: "Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is," which means that we can learn what the will of God is. We find the will of God in the Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16-17.)So then, by learning the specifics of the perfect will of God for us (in all areas of life,) we are able to "expand our horizons" and yet still pray in line with God's perfect will. For example, take the area of physical healing; we find in numerous places that it is God's perfect will for us to be healed (3 John 1:2, Isaiah 53:4-5, 1 Peter 2:24, Exodus 15:26, just to name a few.) Because of this, we have Biblical basis to pray for healing in our lives - proof that it is what God wants for us, even if we aren't experiencing that at the present moment!
I agree with you, in a way; Christians should pray according to God's divine plan instead of (futilely) attempting to change it!
What I disagree with is your statement about everything that happens to us being the perfect will of God; we should look to the Bible to find that, and not assume that it's what is happening all around us (2 Corinthians 5:7.) We're not trying to advise God with our prayers; we're actually taking His advice!In addition to this, there is a grand "plan of God" that will be fulfilled regardless of what we (individually) do or say, and I don't mean to undermine that. What I'm referring to is the perfect will of God as it pertains to our personal lives.
Excellent! It's a pleasure to see someone willing to familiarize themselves with the Bible even if they don't agree with it.Housebroken Lunatic said:
The Biblical references in my posts should not be interpreted as condescending; I'm not trying to insult your education. However, if I am going to claim a Biblical position, I do need to be able to support my views with quotes from the Bible. This is my intention - to show that I'm not just spouting my opinion, but rather that I'm agreeing with what the Bible says.
As far as the "darker" side of the Bible that you threaten to bring up; I do agree there are some very difficult passages (especially in the Old Testament!) that can be easily misunderstood by anyone who lacks the proper historical, cultural and spiritual standpoint. While I don't claim that to possess the knowledge to do so myself, I do believe there are reasonable explanations for everything you mentioned (and more!) Really though, I don't see the relevance they have to our discussion at the moment, and would ideally like to stay on (or, technically, off...? Funny how that works.
) topic.On one side.. I wouldn't want so many people to die.. And I probably would be one of the first to go.
On the other hand, If it were to come, and I survived the initial DooM.. I could turn out pretty good for me.
I'm good at improvisation, I have access to large quantities of survival-gear and have already scouted out the places to go... Because.. You know.. I was bored..
On the other hand, If it were to come, and I survived the initial DooM.. I could turn out pretty good for me.
I'm good at improvisation, I have access to large quantities of survival-gear and have already scouted out the places to go... Because.. You know.. I was bored..
The only time I would want it is if I will come out top (famous) from it but honestly it's not worth it. Sure I could end up famous or well known etc but everyday will be grim and despressing to lived through.
Octon, you rule. Thank you for intelligently and courteously arguing your point and not responding to threats.Octon said:
Kinda, but only a little.
Just to see how it happens, what will it be like, how much will this suck, and what have you.
On the other hand, not really.
Just to see how it happens, what will it be like, how much will this suck, and what have you.
On the other hand, not really.
Well, I want the apocalypse on occasion, when I'm in a foul mood or just said something stupid and embarrassing, but I'm fairly certain that applies to everyone. "Oh please just kill everything so I wont have to deal with this shit etc".
Not a fan of the whole zombie apocalypse thing. Fun to play with as a concept, but if it actually happened I would likely off myself somehow (if by some miracle I survived, which is unlikely as hell).
Excellent stuff man, I laughed hard at that.
Not a fan of the whole zombie apocalypse thing. Fun to play with as a concept, but if it actually happened I would likely off myself somehow (if by some miracle I survived, which is unlikely as hell).
LOL!drthmik said:
Excellent stuff man, I laughed hard at that.
I actually got in SERIOUS trouble in High School for openly admitting how much I wanted the apocalypse, not because of some grand egotistical ideal that the post-apocalyptic world would be awesome, I just wanted to see/hear the painful, agonizing deaths of all those who annoyed me, which was 99% of the student populace; oh, and I wanted to steal a weapon from a devil and USE it on said annoying people, so I could actually BE their end, instead of just having it happen to them.
Yeah, I was a fucked up kid.
But honestly, I still have a bit of that dark mindset buried within my subconscious. Hearing all the crap that "We'll be hitting 7 Billion human beings soon," or anything about all the "new life" that comes into the world or how "unbelievably devastating" the loss of anything less than 100k people just sparks it right back up; for the record, yes, that number is my baseline, no, I didn't react to 9/11 like most everyone else did, and quite frankly, the fact that people are STILL crying about it ten years later is just sickening, but I digress.
OK, I'm still a fucked up adult, but at least I know how to keep it suppressed! Just don't come crying to me about any death in the world, cuz we're still bringing in more life than we are taking out.
Yeah, I was a fucked up kid.
But honestly, I still have a bit of that dark mindset buried within my subconscious. Hearing all the crap that "We'll be hitting 7 Billion human beings soon," or anything about all the "new life" that comes into the world or how "unbelievably devastating" the loss of anything less than 100k people just sparks it right back up; for the record, yes, that number is my baseline, no, I didn't react to 9/11 like most everyone else did, and quite frankly, the fact that people are STILL crying about it ten years later is just sickening, but I digress.
OK, I'm still a fucked up adult, but at least I know how to keep it suppressed! Just don't come crying to me about any death in the world, cuz we're still bringing in more life than we are taking out.
I really dont get this thoughNDarko64 said:
you want horrible things to happen to people...in the name of not liking horrible things to happen to people?
seriously why do you think we all suck? watch too much news?
unless your tslking about where humanity ceases to exist the same bad things would always happen..it would just be worse
No, because then that would "prove" the doomsayers right. And those people who keep predicting the end of times annoy the fuck out of me. And I would never want to give them the satisfaction.
Nah man, you'd be too weak (unless you're extremely skilled at something-or-other that's useful). We'd offer you as bait to the zombies so we can make a dramatic escape when we're surrounded.Fbuh said:
This is the apocalypse, no time for morality.
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Also, something just occurred to me. People wanting the apocalypse to wipe out that fucked-up society we live in today would likely be pretty pissed if someone went out and actually tried to cause a disaster on a smaller scale than the apocalypse. Its like, a murderer is bad, but a scientist who releases the zombie virus is just what this world needs dammit.
Guess you need to think really big in terms of wide scale murder to avoid being hated.
I find this hilarious for some reason. Maybe I'm tired.
You ever watched Reign of Fire?Zakarath said:
Because if you haven't, go do that, it's just what your looking for as far as I remember.
The only good thing is that people who are all 'Durrrrrrrrrrrr...' will die first.
People may think "Yeah, I'm gonna KICK SOME ARSE!" but when it comes down to it, will you?
If you've have no hand to hand training, playing a game about it will only get you so far...
I know I won't last long. I'll probably last a bit longer than some people but you don't know if you're just going to stand there with your gob open while zombies nomnom.
People may think "Yeah, I'm gonna KICK SOME ARSE!" but when it comes down to it, will you?
If you've have no hand to hand training, playing a game about it will only get you so far...
I know I won't last long. I'll probably last a bit longer than some people but you don't know if you're just going to stand there with your gob open while zombies nomnom.