Let's redo the Star Wars prequels

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McFlabbergasty said:
T0RD said:
I hate to be the negative nancy, but it's not like the Original trilogy was freaking flawless,just look at the Ewoks (which in my opinion were as annoying as the Gungans).

Oh trust me, I have no illusions of OT perfection. I just think that there was a huge discord between the overall quality of the PT's scriptwriting, character development, etc. with that of the OT. There were some hiccups in the OT and some high moments in the PT. I really enjoyed the immediate post-Order 66 period in ROTS, with clones stalking the forest in walkers, Obi-Wan flying off into space a wanted fugitive.
Oh yeah, I agree. The whole falling to the dark side Anakin went through was about as subtle as a bulldozer and it wasn't helped by the acting.
 

Shanecooper

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Against my better judgement, I would probably go see this.
No offence to Mr. McFlabergasty, but, lets face it, Star Wars doesn't have the best track record of all time.
 

Nimcha

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Wow that's the worst crap I've ever read.

And I've read a Twilight book.
 

KeyMaster45

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McFlabbergasty said:
Don't bump your own threads, it invokes the ban hammer around these parts. (Welcome, stay out of the basement. Etc etc...)

No, just leave the prequals as they are and furthermore good luck securing the rights to remake them from Lucas Film. They don't need to be remade and if you don't like the direction George Lucas took them in; tough. They have flaws like every movie made, it's only the hardcore SW fanboys who piss and moan about them being terrible and want them stricken from the cannon lore.

If it bothers you that much go and write out some fan-fiction that plays the plots of the prequel movies out the way you want them to go. The rest of us are rather content with them.

The biggest thing the prequels have working against them is exactly what had them make millions; they were the prequel movies. We're introduced to characters whom we know the fate of right off the bat; any attempts at suspense or perilous danger for any of the main characters simply doesn't work; and it especially doesn't work for any sub-character that's a Jedi. If you've seen any of the original trilogy then you know right off the bat this little prodigy child named Aniken will one day be Darth Vader, that Obi Wan and Yoda are the only two Jedi we'll see survive the trilogy, and that Senator Palpatine is the future emperor of the Galactic Empire.

You go into each movie already knowing the end-game, all the stuff that happens in between is pointless and was rightfully not ever really explained in the original trilogy because of the fact it was ancillary info that would only serve to clutter and divert from the core narrative. The best way to engage your audience is to leave them blanks to fill in, and the prequels (by shear definition of what a prequel is) do not have the ability to leave any ambiguity for the audience to interact with and fill in using their own imagination.

Does that make them bad movies? No, they were great entertainment value for the fight scenes alone but they can never get any deeper than that because any dynamic you are introduced to between characters is neigh impenetrable for you to get invested in since you know by the third movie everything is getting shot to crap and then you can fill in what happens after with the content of the original trilogy.

TL;DR: The prequels suffer from their namesake category as movies, but that doesn't make them bad it just prevents any depth from occurring. There's no point in remaking them; they were a lost cause from the start.
 

artanis_neravar

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Look you don't get to decide what happens in this universe Lucas does, he created it, it is his he can do what ever he wants. Don't like it? well to bad get over yourself and go do something actually constructive. Just because you didn't like what he chose to do with HIS Intellectual Property doesn't mean it was wrong, in fact it was exactly write because that is what George Lucas made it to be.
 

Atmos Duality

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The prequels failed in just about every way possible in telling a story.
Horribly boring characters, terrible (even pointless) transition/order of events, the fact that most of the plot relies on EVERYONE being a total fucking idiot to move forward...it's all a mess. The only reason to even bother watching them is for the CGI.

And I would say the same even if these movies were not prequels to the most popular movie trilogy of all time.

A reboot/retry of the prequels sounds good on paper, but I'm curious as to what one ought to focus on. Certainly not Anakin Skywalker.
 

McFlabbergasty

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@Atmos: Anakin is a large part of this trilogy, but there are a few other major players, too. He starts the trilogy as a thirty two-year-old veteran Jedi Knight with a mech-arm, not a whiny little brat. Also his love interest does not have a dumb name like Padme and she does not have a boring occupation like being a Senator.

I'll be damned if Anakin's as annoying in this trilogy as he was in the PT. If you're that concerned about him being a central character, then I'll just go ahead and say that he is NOT the protagonist of Episode III. That duty falls squarely on the shoulders of Obi-Wan.
 

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stoprequesting said:
artanis_neravar said:
Look you don't get to decide what happens in this universe Lucas does, he created it, it is his he can do what ever he wants. Don't like it? well to bad get over yourself and go do something actually constructive. Just because you didn't like what he chose to do with HIS Intellectual Property doesn't mean it was wrong, in fact it was exactly write because that is what George Lucas made it to be.
If someone gave me a burger made of uncooked roadkill, I would be entitled to complain about the burger and speculate about how one could make a better burger. I wouldn't be treading on the chef's "intellectual property" by doing so.
Worst metaphor ever, you don't have to get permission from the chef to make a burger, the chef didn't invent the burger, this makes no sense. Try again
 

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artanis_neravar said:
stoprequesting said:
artanis_neravar said:
Look you don't get to decide what happens in this universe Lucas does, he created it, it is his he can do what ever he wants. Don't like it? well to bad get over yourself and go do something actually constructive. Just because you didn't like what he chose to do with HIS Intellectual Property doesn't mean it was wrong, in fact it was exactly write because that is what George Lucas made it to be.
If someone gave me a burger made of uncooked roadkill, I would be entitled to complain about the burger and speculate about how one could make a better burger. I wouldn't be treading on the chef's "intellectual property" by doing so.
Worst metaphor ever, you don't have to get permission from the chef to make a burger, the chef didn't invent the burger, this makes no sense. Try again
Bit hissy, that.

I'm with stoprequesting on this one though. George Lucas put his idea out into the open, why the hell not write your own damn retelling of his story? What does the ownership of the Intellectual Property of the Star Wars universe have to do with a fans desire to see the story told his or her own way?
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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Meh, I'll just continue to pretend they don't exist and imagine my own trilogy. If Lucas is doing the writing, we'd just see it rehashed in a possibly worse manner.

[sub]In this fans opinion the only Star Wars cannon is the original trilogy.[/sub]
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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Let's not and say we did. Seriously, what the fuck is so bad about the prequils? Watch the original trilogy, the last time I did, I lol'd so much of how corny it was.
 

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MASTACHIEFPWN said:
Let's not and say we did. Seriously, what the fuck is so bad about the prequils? Watch the original trilogy, the last time I did, I lol'd so much of how corny it was.
Ninja'd.

Agreed there is way too much reverence for those movies.