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sketch_zeppelin

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artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!

Heres an example. your a drunk and the idea is to down as many shots you can while avoiding the bouncer or your pissed of wife who is wondering where the hell you are at this hour...yes it sounds like a crap game but i just showed you its possible to make an FPS without shooting
 

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sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
It's Called Portal, and it already has a sequel, Portal 2!
You SHOOT your portal GUN in FIRST PERSON!
 

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There is no reason whatsoever to revive WWII FPS games. It has been done, and redone, and then done some more. It's stale now because THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO DO.

We don't need a revival; we need to take it on a walk behind the tool shed and put it out of its misery.
 

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sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
 

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artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
only if you let the lanuage get in the way of the fun...if it really bothers you then look at it this way, by hitting the guy with the sword i'm shooting blood at myself.
 

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TheIronRuler said:
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Daverson said:
You know what's never been done? A WW1 shooter.

Closest I've ever seen was Darkest of Days, and even then, it was more a completion of "you never see these historical scenarios in video games, but they happened, along with out stuff!".
Yep, there are no WWI shooters, except all these [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_I_video_games]. Sure, most people have never heard of, but the two NecroVisioN games are a few of my favorites ever. However, they are more like WWI meets hell with mechs and dragons... Still fucking awesome, but not really a surprise considering the people that founded the company were from People Can Fly...
What's so interesting about WWI?
The best place to have the full experience of 'Trench Foot'?
I never found any war really interesting besides WWII.
 

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A WWII shooter that captures the feel? Oh definitely not WaW (Though I did enjoy that). If you want the Band of Brothers feel, then definitely Brothers in Arms. It's actually pretty tragic and hellish. CoD games are more frantic and fun shoot em ups, while Brothers in Arms is a bit more strategic and slower paced.
 

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Well if it was an RPG then changing the course of history would kinda kill its "sub-genre" of WW2 purpose, don't you think?
 

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8bitlove2a03 said:
There is no reason whatsoever to revive WWII FPS games. It has been done, and redone, and then done some more. It's stale now because THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO DO.
That is where you're wrong. As previously stated, the games have explored about... 5% of WWII as a whole. We just need to stop doing the same things over and over again.
 

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sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
only if you let the lanuage get in the way of the fun...if it really bothers you then look at it this way, by hitting the guy with the sword i'm shooting blood at myself.
I had to avoid using the term First Person Slasher, or First Person Stabber so it wouldn't still be FPS
 

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The thing that turns me off WWII games is the inaccuracies, No america you didn't do absolutly everything all by yourself.

When they give me a playable russian chracter going through the hardship of a soviet winter cooped up in stalingrad or a Norwegian commando stealth game destroying the damn at Telemark then escaping back to unoccupied territory without capture then I'll play them.
 

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TheIronRuler said:
Kadoodle said:
For some reason people dislike WWII shooters. I never understood why. Many tell me that there are way to many out there all ready, and that they are boring. Really?

See, I just watched the first 10 minutes of Saving Private Ryan. And it makes me think that WWII games need a reboot. Possibly the biggest problem is that there aren't many games out there that really grab at the mood, feel, and action of WWII. Probably the best WWII game out there is COD: WAW, which would have been amazing if the graphics were better and the campaign was longer. I think we need another COD: WAW. Yet everybody's reaction is "We're sick of WWII."

It's sort of like saying you're sick of eating ice cream when what you've been eating is really just frozen horse semen with eggs.

Just look at the opening scenes in the previously mentioned movie. They're dark, gritty, exciting, horrific, and all around amazing. So, tell me, what would it take to get that in a game?
That depends on one question -
Can you find any other antagonists that you can shoot and kill, real humans, without felling remorse besides Nazies?
Yes.
Zombies and variations (necromorphs and such)
Space Nazies (*cough* Hellgast *cough*)
Japanese and Italians. Also Russians, if the devs actually go for the "play as an average German grunt" approach for once. I bet playing as a Japanese soldier would be pretty fun.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
only if you let the lanuage get in the way of the fun...if it really bothers you then look at it this way, by hitting the guy with the sword i'm shooting blood at myself.
I had to avoid using the term First Person Slasher, or First Person Stabber so it wouldn't still be FPS
*blinks* I think you just proved my point.
 

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sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
artanis_neravar said:
sketch_zeppelin said:
no no no no, we do not need to revive the WWII genre. if your missing the genre then play one of the many titles out for it already. I wan't fps games that aren't...well shooters per say. i'd like to see somthing set in fudal japan or rome, somthing that hasn't already been done to death. you can acutally make a decent first person game that doesn't have guns.

hell heres an idea for you. a first person game where your running for your life from jason vorhees. hell you can even have muiltplayer. one player is randomly jason and all the others have to gather together a set number of items to escape. you could have verses or co-op modes that force the players to gather (or even fight over) the supplies on there own or get them as a team. you could even have a team vs team mechanic all the while having to watch out for the nearly invincible jason.
How can you have an FPS with out it being a shooter?
Its that kind of thinking that kept us ass deep with WWII games!
but....but....an FPS is a first person shooter, how can you have a first person shooter with swords...wouldn't that be a first person....hacker?
only if you let the lanuage get in the way of the fun...if it really bothers you then look at it this way, by hitting the guy with the sword i'm shooting blood at myself.
I had to avoid using the term First Person Slasher, or First Person Stabber so it wouldn't still be FPS
*blinks* I think you just proved my point.
I did indeed
 

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Now this is just me, but I always thought that there should be a survival horror set in WWII (no not nazi zombies) Not sure entirely how it would work, but like a paratrooper totally misses his mark and lands in somewhere where some creepy stuff is going down.
 

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The "WWII game" ruined gaming, now we no longer need a storyline in a game, just a command hierarchy and someone to bark orders at us.

There are no motivations to do anything in games nowadays unless your commanding officer is telling you to do it.
 

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LobsterFeng said:
Now this is just me, but I always thought that there should be a survival horror set in WWII (no not nazi zombies) Not sure entirely how it would work, but like a paratrooper totally misses his mark and lands in somewhere where some creepy stuff is going down.
Which is either Wolfenstein or Nazi zombies.
That's strange because you didn't want to refer to nazi zombies.