Lets Talk About Time Travel

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Fdzzaigl

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4RM3D said:
A few questions come to mind...
Do you believe it could be(come) possible?
And if so, how do you think it would work?
And what about the paradoxes?
Any (good) movies, series or games that use time travel in an interesting way?

Or anything else you want to add about time travel

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From a scientific standpoint I believe time travel could become real, just like FTL travel. However I do not really see a way how time travel could work or could be regulated. I see time travel as something like a nuclear bomb, that is, a dangerous power that should never be used, but should still acknowledged that it could be (ab)used.

Also, it's possible the world has already been affected by time travel. But it's something we could probably never say for certain.
Travelling forward (well, I guess it's not really travelling) is possible through relativity. I'm sure it will come to play its part in the future.

Changing the past though? I don't think so and that's just it. I don't have a super scientific explanation, the implications just don't feel right for me.

I usually hate paradoxes and time travel in series / films. Because they're usually used as a way of giving cheap "deus ex machina" twists to a story and they serve to confuse and irritate you more than anything.

There are a few that I like, but can't really name them off the top of my head atm.
 

Zen Bard

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Sure Time Travel is possible. In fact, I'm doing it right now.

I'm traveling into the future at a rate of one minute per minute!


Theoretically it is possible (and I loved talking about this stuff in Modern Physics class in college).

If you accept the idea of four dimensional space-time, and then accept that space-time can be warped by strong gravity, it stands to reason that a sufficiently strong gravitational field could actually fold space time back upon itself to enable travel backwards.

But generating a gravitational field that strong would require a massive amount of energy.

As with space travel, the problem is always power.
 

ZZoMBiE13

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I like to think that linear time is an illusion and that we are all just the fever dream of some all powerful space squid.

Space Squid doesn't need oxygen, but he's run out of hydrogen in his quadrant and once he moves to take a new gasp of air, we're all boned.

Crap. I wasn't supposed to reveal that knowledge. Gimme a second...

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Keoul

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Rylee Fox said:
If you try to travel into the future, it will be impossible to meet your future self since you went through time in the past and were gone from the world entirely until the point in the future that you came to.
You're not time travelling forever, what if you time travel to the future then return to the past and live out your life? You should still be able to meet your future self since he'll still be there since you returned from your trip.

OT: I'm surprised no one mentioned the multiverse theory or anything yet. For this theory time travel doesn't let you go back in time in THIS universe, rather it lets you travel back to a certain point in time and create a new, parallel universe. I'm terrible at explaining so here's a Dr.Mcninja comic about it.
 

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4RM3D said:
A few questions come to mind...
Do you believe it could be(come) possible?
And if so, how do you think it would work?
And what about the paradoxes?
Any (good) movies, series or games that use time travel in an interesting way?

Or anything else you want to add about time travel

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From a scientific standpoint I believe time travel could become real, just like FTL travel. However I do not really see a way how time travel could work or could be regulated. I see time travel as something like a nuclear bomb, that is, a dangerous power that should never be used, but should still acknowledged that it could be (ab)used.

Also, it's possible the world has already been affected by time travel. But it's something we could probably never say for certain.
I'm sorry but we already had this conversation, 27 years from now.

I honestly think the closest mankind will ever get to time travel is watching Dr. Who.
 

GundamSentinel

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The way spacetime is constantly stretching and folding, one could argue we're time-traveling all the time (hur).

But actual time machine-like travel? I honestly don't know. Our current understanding of physics might say no, but how will out understanding of physics change? And if it is theoretically possible, will it be ever practical (prohibitive energy costs)?

Also, I see 1-dimensional time travel like this:
1. Build a time machine
2. Travel back in time and become your younger self
3. Become older just in the same way you did before (because you would be the same younger you that you were before, with the exact same memories and history)
4. Build a time machine

Rinse and repeat. Traveling forward in time would not even be possible in this way. Strangely, if you think about it, we could be moving up and down the 4th dimension all the time and never notice it. :D

No, it becomes more interesting if you actually alter yourself while time traveling to be able to change your path towards the future or start out as a whole new you. 3-dimensional time travel if you will. Or call it multiverses if you don't want to be scared by the impact this kind of travel could have.

Anyway, enough pseudo-scientific nonsense for today.
 

thehermit2

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Most stories about time travel are exactly that, stories. They're meant to be interesting to a reader/viewer/listener, not realistic depictions of what time travel would be like. They have existed for thousands of years; the most prominent examples are Greek mythological depictions of prophets (not so much time travel as the transmission of information through time), but there are many others. I think they represent a normal human reaction to regret and/or wish fulfillment, and this natural outgrowth from the human condition is why they become fodder for storytellers. I should also state my opinion that, especially in the realm of science fiction and fantasy, time travel is the laziest and most hackneyed form of storytelling, and should be approached with caution. All too often it becomes a convenient way for characters to be put under extreme stress or have a moving death scene and yet still turn up in next week's episode.

If time travel were to be real we would most likely see one of two general types. The first is time skipping forward, basically like suspended animation. Orson Scott Card did some interesting writing about this in the Worthing Chronicles. Basically, suspended animation technology led to a culture in which the wealthy would live for centuries or millennia by only experiencing one year out of every however-many-they-could afford. I think this vision is pretty accurate to how some people would behave, although the story tended to be a little myopic in its focus on just that element of the story and a handful of others.

The second is not so much time travel but the ability to cross into alternate dimensions, and in this way cross to a dimension that is chronologically out of sync with our own. Although crossing into alternate dimensions is itself way too science-fantasy, this method would bypass all the nonsense about causality and fate and whatnot, which to be honest is just a different form of wish fulfillment, that of a desire for personal belonging and purpose in the universe. The big stumbling block that is often ignored in stories of this type is what happens when you encounter yourself, and bad writers typically write the other selves out of the story, magically, which is a total cop-out. Of course it also raises the question of why limit yourself to just traveling to an out of sync time if you have all alternate realities to visit? Why not pick one where all your wishes have been fulfilled and go there, or for that matter pick a different one very week? This is basically the Bioshock Infinite route.

Good media about time travel:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/loadingreadyrun/1744-A-Stitch-In-Time
Bioshock Infinite (game)
Primer (movie)
The Back to the Future trilogy (movies, cute and non-serious)
Steins;Gate (anime, cute and non-serious)
The Worthing Chronicles / the Worthing Saga by Orson Scott Card
And of course various episodes of Star Trek the Next Generation, Futurama, the Simpsons, Family Guy, etc.
 

Vivi22

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Honestly, even if Time Travel is possible, there's a catch that many people fail to think of: unless your method of time travel can travel through space as well as time, any attempt to travel forward or backwards through time by itself would result in you floating through space, probably until the end of time. The Earth is constantly moving through space at very high speeds around the sun, as is the sun around the galactic center, as is the galaxy relative to other galaxies, to say nothing of the continual expansion and, therefore, creation of new space time in the Universe.

Unless you have a method for ensuring you arrive on Earth at the time and place you want to end up, you will not.You'll end up at the point in space that you left in another time, when it's likely unoccupied. Now, on the upside, if you carry zero momentum with you and you travel back in time, eventually you'll run into the Earth again, but all I can say is have fun with that, assuming you even live that long. Even worse, even if you did have a method to move through space, if you're off on when you need to arrive by even a couple of seconds, you're going to have a very bad day.
 

fornever1

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James Joseph Emerald said:
fornever1 said:
In my opinion there's no way to change the past. unless I meet myself from the future on the 4/09/2013 I will never use time travel to meet myself on the 4/09/2013.
Honestly, if you got hold of a time machine a couple decades from now, would you be bothered to go back through your old Escapist posts and find the right date you set for yourself, just to prove yourself wrong?
well if it happens I guess I am. It's certainly sounds like something I'd do. if it happens i'll let you know.
 

Riotguards

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well riding on 3 options in my opinion on time travel is this

1) Time travel is an impossibility since any event you wish to change will be rendered moot because they were already changed

i.e. going back in time to kill hitler, ok then what? 90 years later you wouldn't know who hitler was therefore no reason to travel back in time meaning hitler is still alive

2) Time is already changed and you would never know about it

i.e. example being someone wiping out time travel from being discovered

3) you move into an alternate dimension which transports you back to a previous part of history and then back to present without ageing but not being effected by the change of events

(which in my opinion is impossibility)


if i could however i'd go back and buy all the winning lottery tickets and become a billionaire