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Lexodus

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Wasder said:
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Side note I had a teacher named Mr. Wanker
That's nothing; I once knew someone called Dave Glasscock. You could always see when he was coming.
Heh. I knew a man with a wooden leg named Smith. Really? What was the name of his other one? guy called Richard Head.
 

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CoverYourHead said:
zeldakong64 said:
In the spirit of asking questions, do english people actually say "zed" instead of "zee" when they're talking about the letter "z" or is that just jokingly?
It's a joke. We say zee.

I also greatly enjoy the British accent.
Bollocks, English schools always have and always will teach and say it as ZED!

If you want i'll send you a tape of me reading a nice English Novel, like Great Expectations, or Animal Farm.

Colour, taps, pint of lager, Warwick, Wanker, Tosser, Aubergine, Arse and embarrass. These are all proper English words or spellings (most of which my American cousin has tried and failed to pronounce/spell properly) that i can think of. Did you also know that the British Billion is a million, million and the American Biliion is a thousand, million.

And on the subject of the 'british' Accent, which were you refering to? Queens English, geordie, yorkshire, lancashire, liverpudlian, cornish, edimburgh, glaswegian, Northern Irish, bristol, somerset, Northern Welsh, Southern Welsh, brummy, East Anglian etc.
 

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Lexodus said:
Wasder said:
Jaywebbs said:
Side note I had a teacher named Mr. Wanker
That's nothing; I once knew someone called Dave Glasscock. You could always see when he was coming.
Heh. I knew a man with a wooden leg named Smith. Really? What was the name of his other one? guy called Richard Head.
How is old Dick?
 

Lexodus

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Lukeje said:
Lexodus said:
Wasder said:
Jaywebbs said:
Side note I had a teacher named Mr. Wanker
That's nothing; I once knew someone called Dave Glasscock. You could always see when he was coming.
Heh. I knew a man with a wooden leg named Smith. Really? What was the name of his other one? guy called Richard Head.
How is old Dick?
Last time I heard, he was working as a builder in London. Seems to me he'd fit right in! Aha, aha. *snort*

No, no. London is a grand old place, really it is.
 

microwaviblerabbit

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It is not an urban legend.

Secondly
Lukeje said:
Jaywebbs said:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=A%20-%20Tosser
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tosser
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Tosser (scroll down to thesaurus)

All sources say Wanker
Even the ultimate source:
OED; wanker said:
1. One who masturbates; wanker's doom, disability caused by excessive masturbation.

2. An objectionable or contemptible person.
microwaviblerabbit said:
Also. Take the first 2 fingers and stick them up at someone the same way you would give someone the finger. This is a huge EnglishWelsh insult.

What you are saying is: You stupid french haven't beaten me yet and so I will ravage your daughters and kill you.

(Description of why. Those 2 fingers are the fingers needed to fire a longbow. During the hundred years war, when the French captured EnglishWelsh soldiers they would cut off those fingers, effectively disarming them permanently. Thus the insult of waving those fingers.)
And that's an urban legend (at least according to QI).
Ah. The longbowmen were English.

The longbow was a welsh invention, hence its name of the Welsh longbow. The legend of its discovery was that a English (read Norman) Knight was riding through Wales during the conquest of it. A Welsh longbow man shot an arrow through his leg into the saddle. The Knight turned and fled. However, the archer shot another Arrow through his opposite leg, thus pinning him to the saddle. The King, upon finding this out, decided that Longbows were the way to go.

Henceforth, all English men had to practice with the longbow, on Sunday, after church. This was at the butts. Thus the English army was reformed, allowing them to dominate the Hundred Years war until Joan of Arc.

The longbow was amazing. A trained longbow man can: (I have seen this personally, in real life), fire 22 arrows a minute, all on target. He could also rival Legolas in shooting skill.
(He strung 2 arrows, and shot then into each eye of a skull from 100 yards.)

The men captured during the war were archers in the English army. Thus leading them to be English.
 

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microwaviblerabbit said:
The men captured during the war were archers in the English army. Thus leading them to be English.
The English army was made up of both Welshmen and Englishmen (what with the English ruling over us at that point in time). Considering the Welshmen's great experience with the longbow, it would seem likely that many of the archers were Welsh (a quick google search suggests most of the archers, but none of the sources are particularly reliable).
 

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Mimsofthedawg said:
Ayrav said:
I want to get this out right away, I'm an American. I also have some self-respect so I don't use or will ever speak with an English accent.

That said, I have a fondness for hearing someone speak English English. I really enjoy hearing a dirty-mouthed chap, or better yet a chapette, curse up the room. I'd go even as far as saying that I have a extensive, but unpracticed, English English vocabulary.

So Escapists, lets hear your best English English!

By the way, what the hell is a tosser? I've heard it in English English a few times but for the life of me I can't figure out what it means.

If you need some help: http://www.effingpot.com/index.shtml
Why not say "British" english or "proper" english. English english just makes you sound like an uneducated twit.

yes I'm trolling but THIS FUCKING BOTHERS ME YOU BLOODY LIL WANKER!

lol.

anyways.

I heard that a tosser was someone who was big and strong but had very little brains. Like a bouncer in America... only in a negative sense. or more negative at least.
I, as a young brit, am here to indulge your need for knowledge of British vocabulary!

In regards to tosser: No we do mean it to insinuate that the gentleman it is directed at more often than is decent performs sexual actions upon his own person in a disrespectable manner.

By which I mean it actually does mean wanker.

dragon_of_red said:
I love using country slang, because people get confused so much if they dont know what you talking about, i like using the word "Bollocks" even though im an Aussie, it pisses people off.
I also love using that one :D. There is something satisfying about the word bollocks.

atol said:
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels has some crazy English English in it, so much so that they put up subtitles during a couple parts.
That pisses me off, along with the subtitles in train-spotting for the American version.

WE SPEAK THE SAME LANGUAGE. In fact we don't just speak the same language we speak real English. It probably is not much better in any way but I would at least feel less bias against Americans if they stopped this sort of thing. Sorry for the Brit rant, just needed that off my chest.

Anyway: Here are some common language translations for those wanting to go a little native: Sidewalk=pavement Mall=Supermarket Ass=Arse. Candy=Sweets
And most confusing is Pants. The things you wear underneath are considered pants or underwear in Britain, and the things you wear on top of those are considered trousers. So saying you are gonna take off your pants is a little more distressing here in British. :D
 

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zeldakong64 said:
In the spirit of asking questions, do english people actually say "zed" instead of "zee" when they're talking about the letter "z" or is that just jokingly?
no, we very literally do. Even in scotland. Since my early education was in the US, this confused me a mighty bit.

Oright mate? slap a couple o bangers on the grill, we got 'stenders ta watch!

conqueror Kenny said:
You all missed a few more
The old Bill
The filth
The bizzies
Ducks and Geese
A Johnny Hopper
Don't forget the scottish favourite, the Poliss. (Yes, that's pronounced "Po-liss")
 

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Greyfox105 said:
Mimsofthedawg said:
-snip-

anyways.

I heard that a tosser was someone who was big and strong but had very little brains. Like a bouncer in America... only in a negative sense. or more negative at least.
I'd laugh if you called a bouncer a tosser while in England.
there would be a hell of a mess though... well, depends on who the bouncer is.
Heh, bouncers are fun people really. Apart from when 3 of them gang up on you and kill you, like what happened near me recently :D

And I've always been a fan of the phrases "the dog's bollocks/ mutt's nuts" and "jog on". I dont like to use em too much though, it weakens them :D

Also around my way (Shropshire. Lots of farms and cows and hills and pubs.) people often say "old" as "auld" for some reason. It sounds pretty cool, but only if you have the right accent. Also my my relatives from Manchester say "darkie" as a umbrella term for non-whites, which I've never heard anyplace else. But that's because they're a bit racist :D

I also like the word nonce. [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nonce] It's used for pedos, but I think you can kind of use it as a term for anyone who's not quite right.

Also, can anyone tell me how the word shite came about? I would research it, but I'm too tired :p

Wasder said:
Jaywebbs said:
Side note I had a teacher named Mr. Wanker
That's nothing; I once knew someone called Dave Glasscock. You could always see when he was coming.
Oh God.
 

microwaviblerabbit

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Lukeje said:
microwaviblerabbit said:
The men captured during the war were archers in the English army. Thus leading them to be English.
The English army was made up of both Welshmen and Englishmen (what with the English ruling over us at that point in time). Considering the Welshmen's great experience with the longbow, it would seem likely that many of the archers were Welsh (a quick google search suggests most of the archers, but none of the sources are particularly reliable).
I agree some were Welsh. That I do not contest. I guess a better description would be an insult of the medieval English army, since of the different nationalities involved. They were all under the banner of the King of England though, so the French would not have cared if you were English or Welsh.
 

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conqueror Kenny said:
Lukeje said:
Random Joker said:
Rusman said:
OT: English words/terms for the police are legendary:-
The fuzz
The rozzers
The law
And it always must be preceeded by "Bloody hell its the..." and ended with "SCARPER!"
And its Zed.
But thats just skimming the top what about

Po Po

Feds

Pigs

Youths have made up most of these like myself well know in all of england and alot of american films like Friday with ice cube
He also forgot "coppers" and "peelers"...

Edit: and isn't "Feds" American?
Yeah "Feds" is American.
You all missed a few more
The old Bill
The filth
The bizzies
Ducks and Geese
A Johnny Hopper
You missed out
Plods
Coppers
The fools (Yes I have heard this one used.)

I do so love "The filth" It sounds so cool. In fact I am gonna start using that. Even here in Britain it is scarcely used any more.
 

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microwaviblerabbit said:
Lukeje said:
microwaviblerabbit said:
The men captured during the war were archers in the English army. Thus leading them to be English.
The English army was made up of both Welshmen and Englishmen (what with the English ruling over us at that point in time). Considering the Welshmen's great experience with the longbow, it would seem likely that many of the archers were Welsh (a quick google search suggests most of the archers, but none of the sources are particularly reliable).
I agree some were Welsh. That I do not contest. I guess a better description would be an insult of the medieval English army, since of the different nationalities involved. They were all under the banner of the King of England though, so the French would not have cared if you were English or Welsh.
They'd also be less likely to cut your fingers off as just, you know, kill you.
Mr Companion said:
atol said:
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels has some crazy English English in it, so much so that they put up subtitles during a couple parts.
That pisses me off, along with the subtitles in train-spotting for the American version.
The subtitles in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels were purely for comedic effect; they're there in the "English English" version.
 

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bluepilot said:
zeldakong64 said:
In the spirit of asking questions, do english people actually say "zed" instead of "zee" when they're talking about the letter "z" or is that just jokingly?
Yes, some British people, particulary to the North are rather akin to that kind of pronunciation. `Zee` is more American I think

As a Northern lass I do not speak `English-English` myself but speak the Geordie dialect`

Some examples:

How man, packet in! (Please desist what you are doing)

come orra here (Come here please)

wha` ya de-ing (What are you doing)

pack in scrushin us (will you please move over, as you are squashing me)

ye get wha yer given or ye get nowt (Be grateful for what you have)

I`m ganning oot (I am going out)

Geordies also have a tendancy to add `like` to the end of sentances
Ah yes, we geordies have the most amazing dialect in the world don't we, It's a mix of the scottish and english accent, with gaelic words and even a few more scandinavian phrases. You want to hear a great english accent you need to go up north.
 

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Lukeje said:
microwaviblerabbit said:
Lukeje said:
microwaviblerabbit said:
The men captured during the war were archers in the English army. Thus leading them to be English.
The English army was made up of both Welshmen and Englishmen (what with the English ruling over us at that point in time). Considering the Welshmen's great experience with the longbow, it would seem likely that many of the archers were Welsh (a quick google search suggests most of the archers, but none of the sources are particularly reliable).
I agree some were Welsh. That I do not contest. I guess a better description would be an insult of the medieval English army, since of the different nationalities involved. They were all under the banner of the King of England though, so the French would not have cared if you were English or Welsh.
They'd also be less likely to cut your fingers off as just, you know, kill you.
Why would they want to kill you? They are marking you for the rest of your life and sending a message to all those you see you. Think Inglorious Bastards. You are marking them with what they were known most for. Also you are permanently disarming them. Meaning if they manage to rejoin their side, they are useless. The war was over 100 years. That is a lot of time for propaganda like this to sink in.

Secondly, prisoners are a bargaining tool. Killing them all outright would be a waste. Plus they are Catholics like you. You are not supposed to kill unarmed prisoners, especially if you are big into Chivalry like the French were. Also excessive killing often upsets the pope. (See William the Conqueror).
 

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Shoqiyqa said:
Ayrav said:
NO WAY your not a Proper English speaker.
That should be "you're" in proper English on any side of any ocean, including "under the thermocline".
Grh, I feel like such a tool when people correct my grammar.
 

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SharPhoe said:
Ayrav said:
By the way, what the hell is a tosser? I've heard it in English English a few times but for the life of me I can't figure out what it means.
As far as I'm aware, a "tosser" is the same thing as a "wanker".
I can clarify that it is.

Jesus Christ, just realised that 'Are you having a giraffe' is actually cockney rhyming slang...never hard it in a cockney accent...and I say it all the fucking time.