Libyan woman who claimed rape release, is prostititute? o.O?

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emeraldrafael

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TRIPOLI, Libya ? A woman who rushed into a hotel to tell foreign reporters that Libyan troops had raped her is free and with her family, the government said Sunday.

Iman al-Obeidi was tackled by waitresses and government minders as she told her story to journalists Saturday after running into the hotel where many are staying. She said that troops had detained her at a checkpoint, tied her up, abused her, then led her away to be gang-raped.

The government says four men were interrogated in the case, including the son of a high-ranking state official.

Government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim claimed in an interview with The Associated Press that the woman was a prostitute who refused to undergo a medical examination, and that she is now with her sister in the Libyan capital.

"This girl is a prostitute. She has her rights completely, but the girl is not what she pretended to be, this is her line of work," he said. A a news conference in Tripoli several hours later, he did not repeat that allegation.

He said she had named her attackers, which claimed was against Libyan custom.

"It's about the honor of family of children and people," Moussa told reporters.

Al-Obeidi had said she was detained by a number of troops at a Tripoli checkpoint on Wednesday. She said they were drinking whiskey and handcuffed her. She said 15 men later raped her.

"They tied me up ... they even defecated and urinated on me," she said, her face streaming with tears. "The Gadhafi militiamen violated my honor."

Then hotel employees and security personnel jumped her and dragged her out of the hotel.

Her story could not be independently verified.

The waiters called her a traitor and told her to shut up. She retorted: "Easterners ? we're all Libyan brothers, we are supposed to be treated the same, but this is what the Gadhafi militiamen did to me, they violated my honor."

The scene quickly turned chaotic, with journalists attempting to protect the woman from government minders who physically attacked and intimidated her.

Journalists who tried to intervene were pushed out of the way by the minders. A British television reporter was punched, and CNN's camera was smashed on the ground by the minders.
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EDIT2: I'll admit, I was wrong for my idea, I had an off thought.

So just thoughts in general?
 

Gigano

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Why would rape be a less serious offence against a prostitute?

And who would trust the validity of information from the current Libyan administration, which dragged her off in the first place?

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As far as I can see, it's the government representative who complain about the family honour of the attackers, saying that it's against Libyan custom (presumably the clan system) that she publicly named them.

Though I find a notion that prostitutes should automatically be without entitlement to "honour" to be utterly despicable. Certainly anyone who'd deny the worth of others merely because of their harmless choices in life - perhaps even made in dire circumstances - are the lowest creatures of all; what honour have they?
 

DefunctTheory

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Oh boy, the Libya government says she's a prostitute.

A pinnacle of truth and virtue, that institution.
 

supermariner

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surely everyone deserves the same rights regardless of their lifestyle choices
(though with prostitution it's probably necessity that's got her there, not choice)

in legal terms (in Britain anyway) a prostitute is fully within their rights to withdraw consent at any time and can claim rape, same as any other woman
i know libya is a very different place, but if we're to apply what we think should be the case to this situation
i personally don't see any reason she shouldn't be able to claim she was raped
 

Ladette

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Of course she can complain about rape, it doesn't matter what she does for a living. The same way a spouse can be raped by their partner. It's a crime either way.

I don't believe a word the Libyan government says. I doubt she was a prostitue, and sadly I doubt she's still alive.
 

binvjoh

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So a car salesman who gets one of his cars stolen has no right to complain either?
 

Qizx

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Regardless of what she does for a living she is a human being, and unwanted sexual activity against a person who's non consenting is definitely rape no matter what.
OT: If a person has sex with a prostitute and doesn't pay, is it considered rape or shop lifting?
 

CrystalShadow

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Well, that story is messed up in just about every way imaginable...

But of course a prostitute can be raped.

Remember, just because she lets some people pay to have sex with her, doesn't mean anyone can do anything they like to her without her permission.

If she didn't give permission, it's rape.
(Except of course, that if you routinely have sex with lots of people it's often a lot more difficult to convince anyone it was rape. Stereotypes and prejudice and all...)
 

CrystalShadow

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Qizx said:
Regardless of what she does for a living she is a human being, and unwanted sexual activity against a person who's non consenting is definitely rape no matter what.
OT: If a person has sex with a prostitute and doesn't pay, is it considered rape or shop lifting?
Hehe. That's an interesting question...

At a guess, 'shoplifting' is probably agreeing to have sex with a prostitute, doing it, then not paying her even though you said you would.

Rape, is forcing her to have sex even though she said no.

In one case, she agreed, but under the understanding you would pay her for it.
In the other, she never agreed to it in the first place.
 

Krios

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That´s kind of the same thing as asking whether or not a rallydriver has the right to complain about other people bumping into him in actual city traffic. Or if a hairdresser is forced at gunpoint to do a free hair color. Seriously. Yes. A prostitute can get raped and she has every right to complain about it. Especially in Tripoli where the only way to get money is basically murdering rebels.

On top of that, you *seriously* give weight to the spokesman of the Gaddafi regime? What does it have to take to make people understand that they lie for a living? The Gaddafi regime has oppressed, murdered, jailed, raped and maimed Libyan citizens for 42 years. During this uprising they have murdered possibly thousands of civilians, dragged civilian corpses onto the sites of the NATO bombings (as those are now governed by NATO I believe), made at least three fake announcements of stopping the hostilities toward the rebels and so forth. The spokesmen then try to cover up these things by saying whatever the hell they can. It´s really good that we take their words as the truth. I know you said "if its true" but I get a little worked up about these things. People are dying left and right thanks to the psychosis of one man and his family. How about concentrating on that instead of bashing alleged prostitutes?
 

Squeaky

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It should'nt matter if she or isnt a prostititute rape is straight up wrong regards of profession,sex or looks. Some times it makes me sick to think iam human some people have no morals or sense of values it would seem.
 

Kermi

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My question is, do we know that this press release is accurate and factual, or has it been fabricated as damage control after the woman was abruptly disappeared by government officials and the press had their camera equipment confiscated and/or destroyed?
 

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along with the points everyone else has made, i have to point out that Muslim countries routinely accuse any woman who is raped of prostitution. thus, i'd take that accusation with a very large grain of salt. but, as everyone else has pointed out, even if it's unequivocally true that she's a pro, she still has rights.