Life in the Universe? To me, no question...

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The_ModeRazor

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I like to think of it this way:
I'm the only creature in the entire goddamn universe who is referred to as *not gonna post my real name here, but believe me, there's only one of it*
Yeah, so much for unoriginality, huh?
 

Hurr Durr Derp

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That life exists outside of our own planet is almost a certainty. That intelligent life exists outside of our own planet is a gamble.

Hell, some would claim that it doesn't even exist on our own planet...
 

AngryFrenchCanadian

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Well, our planet may not be the only source of life in the universe, but it's very probable that we'll never discover them because of the sheer distance between galaxies.
 

TheRundownRabbit

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I would say the reason why we dont know is irrelevant and something we only begin to understand once we accept all the possibilities of life in the universe, but first we must understand our own existence before we could embrace the possibility of life on other planets, but even then; would we be able to handle the truth about whats really out there even when we face the possibilities?
 

Oomii

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Yes I agree, and if we find that life was once on Mars then 2 in on system means there is a lot of life out there. If not then still with trillions upon trillions of stars and planets chances are fairly good.

I would be interested to see how similar they are to us, we might be lucky enough to be the only kind ( in our galaxy) that can think, which would suck when you think about. That might be the case. There are so many questions, like would they have DNA or would it be extremely different, hopefully I'll know in my life ( as in life on Mars). I won't bore you with more.
 

Tyrael Ravenclaw

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Disclaimer: I'm a Christian.

Could there be other sentient life in the universe? Sure. Would the presence thereof in any way affect my beliefs about God, morality, etc.? No.
 

AcacianLeaves

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Abedeus said:
It doesn't disprove the existence of A god. It would prove our God/s is/aren't real. Why?

"There is only one God."

But if there is a whole new race or more than one race that believe in a higher power, then what, we're all correct? And we all had prophets, all saying that THEIR people are the chosen ones?

Sure there might be a god, or even multiple gods, each for a different planet or solar system... but, yeah, not a chance there is only one God.
How does the existence of life outside of Earth disprove the existence of "only one God"? We already have many people with many different systems of belief in a higher power, adding one more "people" wouldn't change too much in that belief system. As I said, it would adjust. Christianity would say that God loves all his creations, including the aliens. Or, perhaps the crazies would say that aliens are harbingers of the apocalypse. Islam would do exactly the same thing, in different ways. That's the whole concept of an omnipotent "God", it's meant to cover all life, not just life we know about.

Again, I'm not saying this wouldn't require a huge adjustment in the way religion and faith work on Earth; I'm just saying that it wouldn't wipe out religion by any means.
 

PhunkyPhazon

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There's no way there isn't more life out there that's at least as advanced as us, if not more so. Billions of galaxies, each one containing enough room to fit thousands of solar systems? I think it's pretty arrogant to say we are the only lifeforms in the universe.
 

reinersailer

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Our sight of life is wrong, if you can read german, have a look at http://www.reinersailer.de/Universum.pdf

regards
Reiner
 

SL33TBL1ND

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This brings to mind an old demotivational it said "Nazi Gruemany. Hey, if the universe is infinite!"

That's my view on alien life, it has to exist somewhere but they will never come to this shit hole.
 

CouchCommando

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Off subject * I some times wake up after having a dream that, humans and actually all life on earth are actually some thing like a poisonous bacteria or cancerous cell in a life form that makes up the universe, and once we start spreading to other solar systems ,then the anti-bodies are going to come! *
 

Verbal Samurai

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No matter how unlikely the formation of biological life may be, considering the literally unimaginable vastness of space, it is statistically NOT POSSIBLE for it to not have happened somewhere else.
 

FinalGamer

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Hey if evolution works on this planet and we even have things at the bottom of the oceans that don't even NEED oxygen and live in pure salt, well there's your evidence of extraterrestrial life right there!
It's more the chances of anything coming HERE that's a very small chance rather.
 

Scabadus

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Xrysthos said:
and maybe 1 in 3 galaxies contains a planet suitable for life.
I'm not sure you took the same science classes that I did....

Sorry, couldn't resist ;)

Anyway, to the OP, I feel the same way about extra terrestrial life. I can't remember which one, but in one of Richard Dawkins' books he attempts to give a probability for life evolving on Earth within our timeframe. He uses the least probable numbers avalible to him, and then compares it to the (estimated) number of planets in our galaxy. Assuming that any planet is as likely as another to support life (i.e. Venus or Pluto are as likely to have "Life, Jim, but not as we know it" - apologies to trekkies if I got the quote wrong - ) then the estimated number of planets with life was something like 3000, mabey 300.

As for the physical properties of this life, given that we have a full periodic table and that every phenominon we can detect uses a standard set of atoms or derivatives thereof (ions, isotopes) I think it is a fairly safe bet that such a set of 'building blocks' is consistant across our galaxy and indeed the universe. Any other life would have to be capable of replicating itself on a molecular chemistry level before evolving to higher life, so i think it would have to have a structure based around a 'code' such as DNA, but I believe the chances that the molecular structure of this 'code', the psycical structure of the aliens cell and tissue equivelent and the aliens' shape will be very different to humans'.

Whether we will ever be able to communicate with any aliens we meet is another story, however given the amount of ways a modern science lab can send and recieve energy I think we have at least a chance. An interesting side note would be if Mass Effect had a point with the "Cypher", I'm no linguist but it's possible that there is a shared, cultural ability to understand language, and we wouldn't have to particular "Cypher" of this species. We will only have to wait, and hope to one day be able to see.
 

Xrysthos

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Scabadus said:
Xrysthos said:
and maybe 1 in 3 galaxies contains a planet suitable for life.
I'm not sure you took the same science classes that I did....

Sorry, couldn't resist ;)

Anyway, to the OP, I feel the same way about extra terrestrial life. I can't remember which one, but in one of Richard Dawkins' books he attempts to give a probability for life evolving on Earth within our timeframe. He uses the least probable numbers avalible to him, and then compares it to the (estimated) number of planets in our galaxy. Assuming that any planet is as likely as another to support life (i.e. Venus or Pluto are as likely to have "Life, Jim, but not as we know it" - apologies to trekkies if I got the quote wrong - ) then the estimated number of planets with life was something like 3000, mabey 300.

As for the physical properties of this life, given that we have a full periodic table and that every phenominon we can detect uses a standard set of atoms or derivatives thereof (ions, isotopes) I think it is a fairly safe bet that such a set of 'building blocks' is consistant across our galaxy and indeed the universe. Any other life would have to be capable of replicating itself on a molecular chemistry level before evolving to higher life, so i think it would have to have a structure based around a 'code' such as DNA, but I believe the chances that the molecular structure of this 'code', the psycical structure of the aliens cell and tissue equivelent and the aliens' shape will be very different to humans'.

Whether we will ever be able to communicate with any aliens we meet is another story, however given the amount of ways a modern science lab can send and recieve energy I think we have at least a chance. An interesting side note would be if Mass Effect had a point with the "Cypher", I'm no linguist but it's possible that there is a shared, cultural ability to understand language, and we wouldn't have to particular "Cypher" of this species. We will only have to wait, and hope to one day be able to see.
I know, I know. I was simply using Mass Effect 2 as an example to show that even though the chances of life occuring is pretty much a technical impossibility, at least life as we see it here on Earth today, our knowledge of the exoplanets, and our knowledge about life and where it came from, is somewhat limited. As far as statistics go, chances of life occuring are very small, and we might very well be the only planet in the solar system where such an event has unfolded, but I like to think that there is someone else out there, be it microbes or humanoids. And I might have worded myself poorly, but what the entire "1 suitable planet for life in 1 of 3 solar systems" thing was exclusively a ME2 reference, simply to put things into perspective in a "you've played Mass Effect, and you know how few planets are suitable for life, and even this is an unlikely/impossible scenario" kind of a way. To the best of my knowledge, exoplanet scans so far (don't ask about how they've discovered this - light radiated from planets containing information on the planet's chemistry, perhaps) have only revealed 2 planets that maintain Earth-like conditions, and the who's-who in astro-science were quick to say that even though the conditions might be right, chances for life were minimal. Life is however not definitely exclusive to planets with "Earth like conditions" - just look at the varieties in climate and atmosphere conditions life has endured on our own planet on a geological time scale.

I wouldn't seem so stupid if you had taken the liberty of quoting the entire post, or at least the relevant part. Which I hope to rectify by posting this. And yeah, it was supposed to be solar systems, not galaxies. As a reference to ME2, that is, not the actual situation.

Edit: To the best of my knowledge life as we know it requires water, a geologically active planet (heat is required, but increased proximity to a star would turn said water into vapour, which would render thermophiles, most likely the first living organisms, well... dead) and a chemical composition favourable to life forms (i.e., the thermophiles would need something to eat (for example dissolved minerals, like sulphur in "black smokers", which are vulcanic vents on the ocean floor) and something to consist of (carbon, as far as Earth-life goes)).