What I mean is, sometimes you like a band, but not for their music. There's "some other things about them" that you like - I dunno, their personality, their political views, their funny facebook posts - so that when you actually listen to their music, you're thinking more about those "other things" than the music itself. For example, I listen to Elliott Smith. He's dope. But if I didn't know anything about his personal life, I probably wouldn't be all that impressed by his music - it would sound cool, but it sounds cooler coming from him. Anyone feel that way about a band or something?
Like the musician for more than the music?
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No, not really. Most of the time I'll try to learn as little as I can about the musicians themselves because sometimes it ruins the music for me. I avoid interviews because when people talk about their own work, whether it be music or literature or art, they come across sounding either pretentious or just dumb. Most of the time they never live up to my expectations. Someone who sounds like a strong independent woman in her music might dress purely for pandering to the male market. People who seem intelligent might turn out to be jerks and people who seemed admirably rebelious in their music might be really meek, or just full of shit. At the end of the day, I'm interested in the music, not the musician. There's little enough decent music out there without being put off a song by whoever happens to be behind the glass.
nope. just cause people wanna eat the burger doesn't mean they wanna meet the cow.
same goes for music. although i have to admit to be a bit curious about one artist or another, usually i don't care that much about the fluff around the band - after i all, i came for the music, right?
when i am looking for a good book, i don't only buy those with a nice cover, or the heartwarming credits, or whatever one might write surrounding this book-thing
all i care about: do i like the music? do i like the voice'(s)? do i like the lyrics? does one thing outwheigh another? (for example, i like Clare Maguire pretty much for her voice; neither the instrumental parts nor the lyrics cut it for me (although most of them are at least ok), but her voice... awesome. should it be of any relevance: i listen to many kinds of music: Jazz, space, sometimes electronica, EBM, seldomly hard rock, love heavy metal, irish, chines and japanese folk, also some pop, some rap every now and then(no, not yo ***** muthafukker hip-hop))
same goes for music. although i have to admit to be a bit curious about one artist or another, usually i don't care that much about the fluff around the band - after i all, i came for the music, right?
when i am looking for a good book, i don't only buy those with a nice cover, or the heartwarming credits, or whatever one might write surrounding this book-thing
all i care about: do i like the music? do i like the voice'(s)? do i like the lyrics? does one thing outwheigh another? (for example, i like Clare Maguire pretty much for her voice; neither the instrumental parts nor the lyrics cut it for me (although most of them are at least ok), but her voice... awesome. should it be of any relevance: i listen to many kinds of music: Jazz, space, sometimes electronica, EBM, seldomly hard rock, love heavy metal, irish, chines and japanese folk, also some pop, some rap every now and then(no, not yo ***** muthafukker hip-hop))
Lupe Fiasco's genuine willingness to be a positive role model for anyone who does look up to him impresses me a lot. Combined with the massive amount of charity work he does, he's probably my favourite human being amongst musicians. It obviously doesn't hurt that he'd be my favourite rapper regardless, just due to his sheer skill.
Speaking of which, I got to meet him after the show in Dublin, he really is the friendliest ************ around. He waited until everyone got what they wanted signed/photographed, he was really accommodating.Duffeknol said:
Luckily enough he makes a lot of my favourite music too!
Haha, Pixie Lott I guess... she's all kinds of fine.
On the opposite side of the scale though there's Skrillex. I really like the music he makes, but I get afraid to tell people IRL in case they google him and see what he looks like.
On the opposite side of the scale though there's Skrillex. I really like the music he makes, but I get afraid to tell people IRL in case they google him and see what he looks like.
I respect Bobby "Blitz" Ellsworth, from Overkill, quite a lot for still thrashing after both cancer and a stroke(live even). Also listen to some Swedish trallpunk, but I'm mainly into it for the sound rather than the lyrics, even if I agree with most of them.
When asked for my opinion on various artists, even including those that write music I listen to all the time, my answer more often than not is "who?"
With few exceptions, I don't care what these people do with their personal lives. Generally the only time I take notice is for example, Tom Cruises obsession with scientology, which is for me just a reason to laugh my arse off.
With few exceptions, I don't care what these people do with their personal lives. Generally the only time I take notice is for example, Tom Cruises obsession with scientology, which is for me just a reason to laugh my arse off.
Yes, I have this sort of thing going on with my favorite band, Clutch - or maybe more specifically, their frontman, Neil Fallon. He's a really intelligent dude, and that's reflected in the lyrics of their songs. Interviews with him are really interesting, and I've read and enjoyed no less than 2 books simply because he mentioned them. And he sports a fantastic beard.
Check this [http://pro-rock.com/index.cfm?page=discography&categoryid=1&view=lyrics&albumid=75] out - the song list and lyrics of one of their albums. If you click on each song, it's prefaced by a little blurb from Neil explaining the ideas behind it.
Check this [http://pro-rock.com/index.cfm?page=discography&categoryid=1&view=lyrics&albumid=75] out - the song list and lyrics of one of their albums. If you click on each song, it's prefaced by a little blurb from Neil explaining the ideas behind it.
ehhhh....kind of off topic, but not too far..
It's actually a big part of what pushes artists out there now. The artist himself is more of the product then the art itself. The reason why is based on the constant improvement of technology and how accessible it's made making and marketing music to the general population.
For making music you have your software like fl studio/reason/logic/cubase/etc. that all improve each year to make music more and more streamlined. You have apps on your iphones and stuff that makes music on it. You now have video games that are based on rockband, and guitar hero but actually provide you a 6 string guitar to learn actual guitar playing!
for marketing music you have access to the internet! You can upload music to your sites, create an artist portfolio, get your tunes on online distributors that feed money into your paypal, companies that create flyers/merchandise/etc. for you when your on the road.
Just everything is streamlined to the point that there isn't really any magic tricks left unexposed for those who take the time to look them up on google.
This makes the Artist's brand more important then ever. The personality is more important then ever. You have to make more of a point of connecting and relating to your fan base. Like being a Chief/figurehead/leader/idol for the tribe/fans/niche/listener. Here's a cool video i got this analogy from.
http://www.musicmarketing.com/2009/03/seth-godin.html
so it's not really surprising that one might bring this conversation up. I'm sure Bonsaik among others could Really cut to the innards of this.
It's actually a big part of what pushes artists out there now. The artist himself is more of the product then the art itself. The reason why is based on the constant improvement of technology and how accessible it's made making and marketing music to the general population.
For making music you have your software like fl studio/reason/logic/cubase/etc. that all improve each year to make music more and more streamlined. You have apps on your iphones and stuff that makes music on it. You now have video games that are based on rockband, and guitar hero but actually provide you a 6 string guitar to learn actual guitar playing!
for marketing music you have access to the internet! You can upload music to your sites, create an artist portfolio, get your tunes on online distributors that feed money into your paypal, companies that create flyers/merchandise/etc. for you when your on the road.
Just everything is streamlined to the point that there isn't really any magic tricks left unexposed for those who take the time to look them up on google.
This makes the Artist's brand more important then ever. The personality is more important then ever. You have to make more of a point of connecting and relating to your fan base. Like being a Chief/figurehead/leader/idol for the tribe/fans/niche/listener. Here's a cool video i got this analogy from.
http://www.musicmarketing.com/2009/03/seth-godin.html
so it's not really surprising that one might bring this conversation up. I'm sure Bonsaik among others could Really cut to the innards of this.