Linkin Park - Why the Hate?

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WolfmanNougat

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Okay, from the title alone you've probably got a bad first impression of this topic. Like this'll just be another one of those posts were some well-meaning but ignorant kid comes up and says "Why you be hating on my favourite game/movie/song/potato?" and the answer is usually to the effect of "we feel its quality doesn't warrant its popularity." No, I'm here to give my own thoughts on the matter, and then leave it open for you to discuss afterwards.

So, Linkin Park; hugely popular Nu Metal / experimental band, yet so many people seem to roll their eyes when the name is attatched to something. They're so huge now that they're frequently hired to write tie-in songs for big-budget piece of shit blockbusters like Revenge of the Fallen and Medal of Honor. So if they're so successfull, why is it that many are quick to dismiss them?

For me personally, it's that I feel... well, guilty by association. We all know the stereotypical LP fan, right? Little emo kid with his black hair in his eyes, writing his crappy faux-introspective poetry and listening to Crawling on endless repeat. You're not that guy: You have a life, you dress like a normal person, you go out, you most certainly don't listen to Linkin Park. When it comes down to it, I stopped listening because I didn't want to be lumped in with those sad little probably-hypothetical bastards. It got to the point where I would frown upon anyone who even mentioned the name in a positive light, even my friends and family.

Fast forward to more recent times, I heard Papercut for the first time in a long time and, yeah I dug it. It got into the rhythm, enjoyed the riffs, and appreciated the expressions of paranoia, having dealt with some in my past. And I found that, yeah, I still kinda enjoy a lot of their stuff, one or two what-was-I-thinking moments aside. I then realised that I had no reason to worry about being lumped in with the sterotypical fan: I never did the emo look,I can't write poetry for shit, and I've always hated Crawling, even when I was an unapologetic fan.

So this leads me to wonder if most of the hate is based on the same stigma that Linkin Park is for emos and no-one else, and whether such hate is really justified or just overreaction. Would you agree?
Maybe some of you have gone through the same cycle, maybe you just lost interest and moved on, and probably a few of you never liked them to begin with and feel that their quality doesn't warrant their popularity. Any other points, bring 'em up, I'm open to anything.

Of course, for the blockbuster tie-ins, the eye-rolling is mostly because those songs are marketing ploys, nothing more. Goes for anyone, really.
 

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to me, Linkin Park is the Nickelback of nu metal. not untalented, per se, just horribly, horribly overrated. also, i detest any music where an otherwise pretty song is ruined by screaming. just my $.02 :)
 

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For me it's mainly that the lyrics are awful. Chester Bennington much more so, it has to be said.

But yeah, I actually kinda like the first album, in its catchy, cheesy way.

[sub]And I still know all the words from when I was 14...[/sub]
 

Flames66

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I don't hate them, in fact I used to be very much into them. I have just gone of them since then. I have gone off most heavy music as well. I have even mostly stopped listening to Nightwish.
 

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Crawling is the most stereotypically emo song I've heard in my life.

That being said, I like most of everything else they've done. I guess I'm weird for being open in my admission of such a thing.

I like the riffs, I like the rhymes about 40% of the time, and they've got a good beat.

Of course, sometimes they do get a bit depressed in their tone (not speech tone, word choice), but meh, I'm generally in a good enough mood from their musical side that the content doesn't affect me.

The screaming bothers me at times, but that's about it.
 

Master Kuja

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I used to love Linkin Park, never properly went through the stereotypical emo phase, but even before I came near to it I still loved them.
Hybrid Theory, Meteora and Reanimation were awesome albums.

Honestly, my hate now comes from the fact that Minutes to Midnight and Thousand Suns are absolute bollocks compared to the others.
Seriously, I've never bitched about a band selling out before Linkin Park, and after them I've never done it either, but they used to have a really good sound, now it's just...Generic, pop-metal bullshit.
 

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My hate for Linkin Park stems from their music being shitty.
As is most of Nu Metal for me, but whatever.
 

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WolfmanNougat said:
Of course, for the blockbuster tie-ins, the eye-rolling is mostly because those songs are marketing ploys, nothing more. Goes for anyone, really.
MY eyerolling comes from the fact that almost ALL of their songs have the same tone and theme. I liked the first few I heard, but how MANY times can you say "I can't be like you Dad/You're being overbearing loved one/I can't control who I am" and most of them go the same way too:

"Soft Intro, Instrumental hard chorus, one guy talking about how hard things are for him softly with subdued music sometimes accompanied by a back-up guy rapping about the same thing as the first guy but with different words, Main Chorus with almost screaming guy beating you over the head with the point of the song, rinse and repeat with new lyrics."
 

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I used to love Linkin Park but I just can't stand their new stuff. Hybrid Theory and Meteora were epic albums. Their new stuff sucks compared to their older stuff.
 

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Its ok Music, but, when every preteen or emo kid or lonely whats their face, play their same music in every possible way on every type of video known to man on youtube, it can get quite annoying. I would say that 90% of all videos with music in them from 2006-2009 are filled with Linkin Park... any videos after that with their music is just the product of some kid who is behind the times... the times where its now just filled with LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOOOORRRRQGCJKHCGQHGXCQCQDK.
 

Laser Priest

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Oooooor maybe it's because some people genuinely dislike their music.

I for once enjoy the instrumentals that generally only last through the intro. The rest of the song tends to suck.
 

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These days their first album sounds like it was made for thirteen year olds, and I used to like them too. Eh, I guess some music just doesn't grow up with you.
 

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Linkin Park has a few good songs. One Step Closer, In The End (Especially the Reanimated version), Faint, Somewhere I Belong etc. I think most of the hate comes from the same fear as yours: Others think that Linkin Park = emo shit. Mostly because of how infamous Crawling is. But when Linkin Park raps, it's pretty much the only rap I can stand, along with Gorillaz and MC Frontalot. I'm fine with people knowing I listen to Linkin Park songs, because it's fairly obvious that I am NOT emo. I wouldn't be caught dead listening to their new pop stuff, though. Go back to the kind-of-sinister rap-metal, and I'll once again call myself a fan.

Also, I think it's a crucial part of being a Linkin Park listener to be completely ignorant of any lyrics or message they're trying to get across. I don't hear "You used to be a cool person but now you're asking me to do things I don't want to do so that's not very cool," I just hear "Words words words words words words words words words I CAN'T FAINT THE WAY I DID BEFORE! DON'T TURN YOUR BACK ON ME, I WON'T BE IGNORED!"
 

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Flames66 said:
I don't hate them, in fact I used to be very much into them. I have just gone of them since then. I have gone off most heavy music as well. I have even mostly stopped listening to Nightwish.
What!? No more Nightwish!? Sad times indeed.
I really don't mind most of Linkin Park. I know that I definitely like Hybrid Theory in its entirety, and a few songs from Meteora as well. Good stuff, I think.
 

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I never really "got" Linkin Park. I don't hate them but I don't listen to them when I have control over whats played. I just missed the boat I guess, while people were raving about LP I was listening to post hardcore bands like Thrice, Thursday, the Movielife et al.
 

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Master Kuja said:
I used to love Linkin Park, never properly went through the stereotypical emo phase, but even before I came near to it I still loved them.
Hybrid Theory, Meteora and Reanimation were awesome albums.

Honestly, my hate now comes from the fact that Minutes to Midnight and Thousand Suns are absolute bollocks compared to the others.
Seriously, I've never bitched about a band selling out before Linkin Park, and after them I've never done it either, but they used to have a really good sound, now it's just...Generic, pop-metal bullshit.
I agree 100%. I still love and listen to Hybrid Theory and Meteora frequently. I hated most of Minutes to Midnight though, and I could only bear to listen to the demos of a few of a Thousand Suns. When I heard the Black Birds demo for the first time, I was excited because it sounded like old Linkin Park, but was extremely disappointed when I heard the entire song, and realized the only part they had shown was the awesome ending to it.

Part of the reason as well as to why I like them a lot, is because, unlike most people, I discovered them myself. I found them not by word of mouth, or by radio, but from a single video on Youtube that was shot to one of their songs. I bought the album because that was the only way to get the song, and started to listen to the whole thing and really came to enjoy it. I never knew they were so popular until I after I started listening to them, and I didn't even know of the stereotype of their listeners.

Oh, and don't take me as saying something like "I knew about them before they were famous!" because I didn't. Found out after but on my own, so I never really found out about the stigma attached to it until after I liked it.
 

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I actually enjoy Linkin Park. I must say though, I don't think their music is groundbreaking, and I can't really relate to most of their songs, but I find them good fun! Just brings back happy memories I guess!

Fun Fact: There's a Final Fantasy AMV on YouTube for practically every song from Hybird Theory! Don't ask how I know that...