Alex_P said:
Kikosemmek said:
As long as the documentation isn't shit, any flavor of Unix lets you get deep and dirty. Forcing the issue
really isn't a virtue.
-- Alex
Actually, no, not every flavor of Unix lets you get deep and dirty. Unix in itself is a proprietary software. MacOS X is very much based on Unix, and you can bet your ass you will never have a look at the source code or try to seriously mod it if you like the system and would really want to change some things about it.
In a different vein, GNU's a completely free OS, licensed under the GPL (the only freedom you don't have is to make GNU non-free for others). Even GNU has distros which are more geared toward user-friendliness, such as Ubuntu and its many variations, and RedHat (don't get me started). User-friendliness isn't a _bad_ thing, because it can't be good or bad. It's a mode of preference which I share with many that I dislike it when a system assumes I don't know what I'm doing and sacrifices my liberty of completely modifying every aspect of it, should I wish, so that it can be user-friendly. I'd rather learn and read a manual than give that up. That is nothing but an opinion, and like I said it is not for everyone. Some people, like I was once, simply are not interested in fiddling with every damn thing and just want a system that works and looks pretty. That's fine; different people look for different things, but forcing the issue is not what I'm doing.
I'm poking fun at it, and I've seen many cases where Gentoo users have been categorized as ricers or whatnot. Gentoo is my favourite distro (and I'm pretty new and still learning) because of its customizability, its advanced portage tree, and the responsibility it gives its owner. You could say that since much of the Gentoo crowd harbors my sentiment (not to pride myself, but customizability is the main reason I've heard for people switching to Gentoo), the distro is notorious for not being user-friendly. One wouldn't say that, though, because user-friendliness is widely held to be a positive thing. This is why I elected to have a stab at Ubuntu from the other point of view- partly to show that there's another side to the equation, and partly to be a little funny. You took my words way out of proportion.
A virtue is a matter of opinion. At no time did I say that mine is better than others. And yeah, Ubuntu seems to be on course to challenge Vista in terms of mainstream appeal, and is the main jumping platform for most people when they switch to GNU. It has, as a result, huge resources and much recognition; however, there is a major update every 6 months which changes things radically. If one would want to move with the flow, some versions of some files will be dumped by the distro. Gentoo doesn't do that and keeps things compatible.
This thread is now begging to be locked because we derailed it so much. I apologize, but I like discussing this subject.