Little things about Western culture that annoy you.

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Atmos Duality

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Pop music and rap.
They have the power to ruin fucking ANYTHING. Who wants to hear another fucking pop-techno-party song? Or perhaps another "I'm cooler than everyone, becuz" rap song? I hope you do because that's what gets played BY FAR the most in public around me.
At this point I wouldn't be at all surprised if these songs were just being pumped out by a giant supercomputer.

Also, I was going to say the virtual worship of celebrities, but that's hardly unique to the West.
 

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Okay I have read many a posts on this site where people both from America and not, complain about American games/movies always included Americans doing cool shit (ie. saving the world, starting revolutions, winning international dancing events, you know cool shit). Yes, there are a shit ton of movies that have this in them, but they do not take up even half of the main stream movie industry, and when you add the indie crowd the numbers become even smaller. Lets look at this weeks box office shall we...
THE HELP
Buena Vista

2,843 $3,634,000

+103.6% / $1,278
$108,025,000 / 24 $5,374,000

+47.9% / $1,890
$113,399,000 / 25 $5,201,000

-3.2% / $1,829
$118,600,000 / 26
N/A
2 THE DEBT
Focus Features

1,826 $2,610,000

+180.4% / $1,429
$4,511,000 / 3 $3,653,000

+40% / $2,001
$8,164,000 / 4 $3,414,000

-6.5% / $1,870
$11,579,000 / 5
N/A
3 RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES
Fox

3,193 $1,850,000

+141.8% / $579
$154,075,000 / 29 $2,925,000

+58.1% / $916
$157,000,000 / 30 $3,025,000

+3.4% / $947
$160,025,000 / 31
N/A
5 APOLLO 18
Weinstein / Dimension

3,328 $2,850,000

-- / $856
$2,850,000 / 1 $3,000,000

+5.3% / $901
$5,850,000 / 2 $2,850,000

-5% / $856
$8,700,000 / 3
N/A
4 SHARK NIGHT 3D
Relativity

2,806 $2,790,000

-- / $994
$2,790,000 / 1 $3,000,000

+7.5% / $1,069
$5,790,000 / 2 $2,850,000

-5% / $1,016
$8,640,000 / 3
N/A
6 COLOMBIANA
TriStar

2,614 $1,985,000

+140.3% / $759
$16,547,000 / 8 $2,760,000

+39% / $1,056
$19,307,000 / 9 $2,655,000

-3.8% / $1,016
$21,962,000 / 10
N/A
7 OUR IDIOT BROTHER
Weinstein Company

2,555 $1,441,000

+125% / $564
$11,676,000 / 8 $1,918,000

+33.1% / $751
$13,594,000 / 9 $1,823,000

-5% / $714
$15,417,000 / 10
N/A
8 SPY KIDS: ALL THE TIME IN THE WORLD
Weinstein / Dimension

3,007 $1,055,000

+113.3% / $351
$25,454,000 / 15 $1,885,000

+78.7% / $627
$27,339,000 / 16 $1,697,000

-10% / $564
$29,036,000 / 17
N/A
9 DON'T BE AFRAID OF THE DARK
FilmDistrict

2,780 $1,459,000

+144.3% / $525
$12,899,000 / 8 $1,893,000

+29.7% / $681
$14,792,000 / 9 $1,589,000

-16.1% / $572
$16,382,000 / 10
N/A
10 THE SMURFS
Sony / Columbia

2,706 $875,000

+103.9% / $323
$128,828,000 / 36 $1,585,000

+81.1% / $586
$130,413,000 / 37 $1,540,000

-2.8% / $569
$131,953,000 / 38
N/A
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11 CRAZY, STUPID, LOVE.
Warner Bros.

1,450 $870,000

+152.2% / $600
$72,078,000 / 36 $1,205,000

+38.5% / $831
$73,283,000 / 37 $1,145,000

-5% / $790
$74,428,000 / 38
N/A
12 HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS PART 2
Warner Bros.

1,092 $560,000

+80.6% / $513
$372,715,000 / 50 $900,000

+60.7% / $824
$373,615,000 / 51 $965,000

+7.2% / $884
$374,580,000 / 52
N/A
13 COWBOYS & ALIENS
Universal

1,185 $444,000

+119.3% / $375
$94,825,000 / 36 $705,000

+58.8% / $595
$95,530,000 / 37 $670,000

-5% / $565
$96,200,000 / 38
N/A
14 CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER
Paramount

1,050 $449,000

+107.9% / $428
$170,145,000 / 43 $700,000

+55.9% / $667
$170,845,000 / 44 $661,000

-5.6% / $630
$171,506,000 / 45
N/A
15 30 MINUTES OR LESS
Sony / Columbia

1,355 $465,000

+54.9% / $343
$33,663,000 / 22 $635,000

+36.6% / $469
$34,298,000 / 23 $600,000

-5.5% / $443
$34,898,000 / 24
N/A
16 FINAL DESTINATION 5
Warner Bros. (New Line)

1,226 $385,000

+54% / $314
$39,432,000 / 22 $575,000

+49.4% / $469
$40,007,000 / 23 $575,000

-- / $469
$40,582,000 / 24
N/A
17 CONAN THE BARBARIAN (2011)
Lionsgate

1,722 $370,000

+11.7% / $215
$18,588,000 / 15 $529,000

+43% / $307
$19,117,000 / 16 $501,000

-5.3% / $291
$19,618,000 / 17
N/A
18 ONE DAY
Focus Features

1,187 $359,000

+44.2% / $302
$11,337,000 / 15 $485,000

+35.1% / $409
$11,822,000 / 16 $454,000

-6.4% / $382
$12,124,000 / 17
N/A
19 CARS 2
Buena Vista

2,043 $215,000

-- / $105
$187,694,000 / 71 $457,000

+112.6% / $224
$188,151,000 / 72 $434,000

-5% / $212
$188,585,000 / 73
N/A
20 FRIGHT NIGHT (2011)
Buena Vista

1,468 $325,000

-4.1% / $221
$16,087,000 / 15 $470,000

+44.6% / $320
$16,557,000 / 16 $419,000

-10.9% / $285
$16,976,000 / 17
N/A
21 SEVEN DAYS IN UTOPIA
well this didn't help my case much did it...still look at the independent film makers, where the majority of movies are released in America (and the rest of the world I'd imagine). The topics are widespread, and hard hitting. You just have to settle for less professionalism work. Was Day Night Day Night as well put together as say The Expendables. No (in fact the pacing and editing..redundant I know...drove me up the wall) it was not.

Also if you have a problem with American dominated films/games. DO NOT WATCH OR BUY THEM. Do not give them your money. If you want to have your own countryman in these games, find a developer (this term works for movies...wat?) that does this and give them your money. God knows the independent peoples of both industries could really use your money, time, and patience. With they start our cranking out products like the Bad Robots, or the Biowares.No, but at least they are making games/films.

OT: Wow three paragraphs in and I am only now just on the OP. This is shaping up to be the biggest post I've ever made on the internet. You bring up great points that I agree with for the most part but dude, your delivery sounds way fan boyish. You do know that there is more to this "Eastern Culture" (God I hate that term)then Japan and China, and others from the Orient? There is India. There, that is my biggest problem, how do you forget India? They have, what, the second biggest population in the world...at least the last time i checked let me check real fast. Yup, according to wiki, so we will take with salt (pun slightly intended).

Look I know where you are coming from, but the grass is not always greener on the other side and rants do not always help things (What, hypocrite? I don't know the meaning of the word) except to piss people off.
 

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Mackheath said:
People who generalise a good chunk of humanity into a narrow-minded way of thinking. Like this wall of text does for about 2/3 of the time.

What you call 'Western' is mostly 'American', and you know what? Thats capitalism, kiddo; get used to it.
Not just American but a specific part of America. Looking at it I can pinpoint specifics of WHERE in America is being talked about. Obviously the "bible belt" part of America. (sale of alcohol on specific days and places closed on Sundays...though Chick-Fil-A is a CHRISTIAN run company and is closed on Sundays but that is a seperate issue altogether). To add to the topic however why are all the bad guys mostly from the UK in films? Why can't we have an American bad guy? And the good guy be from the UK or Russia or something like that? Damn you entertainment industry.
 

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Well, according to you, the West is only America. Cheers.

I can't think of many parts of 'Western' culture that are universal. If I could pick one, it would be all the kinda nerdy guys that espouse how brilliant Japanese culture, and deride American/British/Irish culture (hmmm...familiar). One isn't really better than the other, just different.
 

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Stark14 said:
Don't mean to de-rail the thread, but am i right in thinking that you teach English as a foreign language abroad? I'm interested because it's something i am considering doing after graduation from university. For starters, how did you get into teaching abroad?
 

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funguy2121 said:
It would seem you are engaging in a little bit of East-worship, after all.
Absolutely not. And I shouldn't even have to explain this since my topic said it's "little things about Western culture that annoy you" and a preface that I am not bashing any cultures, obviously, because I said "little things". It's disappointing that a person can't even dislike the littlest things about Western culture or not find them utterly superior to some aspect of Asian culture without people rushing to the defense of the West on the smallest, most insignificant things. This is honestly comparable to someone saying "Little things about New York that annoy you".

I shouldn't have to do this, and I'm sad that I do. But it looks like I'm going to have to anyway since people apparently can't accept the idea that the West isn't superior in every single tiny, insignificant way. I personally like the West overall better than the East. Just my personal taste perhaps. But while the West has "white privilege", the East has Asian privilege. In fact the East is probably more racist than the West. Then there's that whole problem of "shame culture" in the Sinosphere that makes people afraid to be themselves. In Japan it's called "Tatemae and Honne", but it exists to some degree in all Confucian cultures. This has led to huge amounts of shut-ins and suicides. And a general unhealthy fixation with normality and false "harmony". Many big parts of Asian culture are absolutely suffocating. And I realize the parts of Asian culture I like bigger are overall, little, I wish other people would do the same and not rush to the defense of the West over petty, trivial things like they're important. Also, I don't know why I'm feeding these posts either, since not everybody is taking issue with the thread and just sharing their little gripes, too. This thread has a healthy life of it's own now and I'm not helping it with these silly walls of text.

Look, like I've stated before, I could have just as easily made this same topic about the East. Except without the "little" part, because my gripes with Eastern culture are much bigger overall are much bigger than the West. And I'm quite grateful that I live in the West. But apparently that's not enough for some people, you have to like every little meaningless thing about the West. I guess that's another thing that annoys me about the West, then. Or maybe that's the internet. Do I seriously, seriously need an Eastern version of this topic for people to shut up about this?

I also appreciate the fact that people here think things like, "the East and West don't truly exist". But do you people also not use terms like jRPG and wRPG? Because if you believe this, you should also believe that terms like "jRPG" and "wRPG" are silly terms to describe games.
 

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aprilmarie said:
Mackheath said:
People who generalise a good chunk of humanity into a narrow-minded way of thinking. Like this wall of text does for about 2/3 of the time.

What you call 'Western' is mostly 'American', and you know what? Thats capitalism, kiddo; get used to it.
Not just American but a specific part of America. Looking at it I can pinpoint specifics of WHERE in America is being talked about. Obviously the "bible belt" part of America. (sale of alcohol on specific days and places closed on Sundays...though Chick-Fil-A is a CHRISTIAN run company and is closed on Sundays but that is a seperate issue altogether). To add to the topic however why are all the bad guys mostly from the UK in films? Why can't we have an American bad guy? And the good guy be from the UK or Russia or something like that? Damn you entertainment industry.
Actually, Bergen County, NJ also has blue laws, but that's because people just don't like working on Sundays.
 

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Nickolai77 said:
Stark14 said:
Don't mean to de-rail the thread, but am i right in thinking that you teach English as a foreign language abroad? I'm interested because it's something i am considering doing after graduation from university. For starters, how did you get into teaching abroad?
I'm not that guy, but I am teaching ESL in Japan. The biggest thing you need to have is a good grasp of English spelling and grammar. Depending on where you want to expatriate to the other things change. Like, as far as Japan and Korea go, all you need is a 4 year degree in, wait for it, anything. Obviously studying something like English, or English Linguistics, will look better than Pre-Industrial Basket Weaving. If your looking at Japan, than the two main ways people teach here are as JETS, which is a government exchange, and eikaiwa, which are private "conversation schools." The JET program is pretty good money, but you have no say where you will go, whereas with eikaiwas, there in which ever city you want. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
 

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I hate how "communist" is an insult here.
I hate celebrities are some people's entire world.
I hate (this one is petty) how we have to add taxes onto the ticketed price, as opposed to the European system.
I hate how health obsessed people are here.
I hate how religion obsessed people are here.
 

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Our Capitalist overly individualistic ego trip attitude.

No, you are not special, even if your parents told you that. You also want food, a nice place to sleep and someone who loves you. Just like ~every other human being on this planet. We all want basically the same.
 

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One think that is rife in the western world that really tugs at my nuts, is the fact that 99% of people take everything for granted. Nobody seems to appreciate what they have and just want more more more. There are no values these days, and rather than help your fellow man...It is more stab your fellow man and steal his iphone. Back in the war, people appreciated things as simple as a loaf of bread. I am sure that people need to fight for what they have, otherwise society turns to rat sh*t!
 

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thebobmaster said:
The fact that we can't let private lives be private. God help anyone who finds out that the person they are playing or talking with is LGBT, or a furry.

God help the furries.
Or if they learn you're an atheist.

Main reason I decided to be more open with my atheism is so I can use it as a kind of "weeding out" process. I'll casually mention something about my beliefs and depending on their reaction, they are either under "asshole, avoid at all costs" and "might be worth talking to" categories.
 

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LilithSlave said:
funguy2121 said:
It would seem you are engaging in a little bit of East-worship, after all.
Absolutely not. And I shouldn't even have to explain this since my topic said it's "little things about Western culture that annoy you" and a preface that I am not bashing any cultures, obviously, because I said "little things". It's disappointing that a person can't even dislike the littlest things about Western culture or not find them utterly superior to some aspect of Asian culture without people rushing to the defense of the West on the smallest, most insignificant things. This is honestly comparable to someone saying "Little things about New York that annoy you".

I shouldn't have to do this, and I'm sad that I do. But it looks like I'm going to have to anyway since people apparently can't accept the idea that the West isn't superior in every single tiny, insignificant way. I personally like the West overall better than the East. Just my personal taste perhaps. But while the West has "white privilege", the East has Asian privilege. In fact the East is probably more racist than the West. Then there's that whole problem of "shame culture" in the Sinosphere that makes people afraid to be themselves. In Japan it's called "Tatemae and Honne", but it exists to some degree in all Confucian cultures. This has led to huge amounts of shut-ins and suicides. And a general unhealthy fixation with normality and false "harmony". Many big parts of Asian culture are absolutely suffocating. And I realize the parts of Asian culture I like bigger are overall, little, I wish other people would do the same and not rush to the defense of the West over petty, trivial things like they're important. Also, I don't know why I'm feeding these posts either, since not everybody is taking issue with the thread and just sharing their little gripes, too. This thread has a healthy life of it's own now and I'm not helping it with these silly walls of text.

Look, like I've stated before, I could have just as easily made this same topic about the East. Except without the "little" part, because my gripes with Eastern culture are much bigger overall are much bigger than the West. And I'm quite grateful that I live in the West. But apparently that's not enough for some people, you have to like every little meaningless thing about the West. I guess that's another thing that annoys me about the West, then. Or maybe that's the internet. Do I seriously, seriously need an Eastern version of this topic for people to shut up about this?

I also appreciate the fact that people here think things like, "the East and West don't truly exist". But do you people also not use terms like jRPG and wRPG? Because if you believe this, you should also believe that terms like "jRPG" and "wRPG" are silly terms to describe games.
Somewhere in the middle there you provided quite a lot of insight and thoughtfulness. But you flanked it with "you just think everyone in the West is perfect!" Which, I can assure you, no one does.
 
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The west's fixation on curves. Are you serious? We're the only one with disproportionate characters? I suppose I'll take your word for it. Oh wait, look what I found.

I could find more if you wanted me to. Well just for good measure.


Oh and just for good measure one from anime.


I just hadn't seen this point countered yet so I felt the need to do so.
 

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Sir Rammington Steel said:
Are you serious? We're the only one with disproportionate characters?
Absolutely not. I said nothing like that. There is a such thing as different cultures in the world. You ever heard reviewers out there deride jRPGs for not being "manly" enough have having too much androgyny?

They're wrong that there's something wrong with androgyny and that jRPGs need to be "manlier" like wRPGs. But they are right that Asian media has a greater tendency towards androgyny.

Surely you have come across these reviewers that say Asian media has a greater tendency towards androgyny while the West has a greater tendency toward manliness and curvaceous characters. They're common in the video game industry.
 

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The OP did not put enough thought into their post. A fuckton of it is just plain wrong. I mean, cute? The west loves cute. Show a westerner a kitten and they will absolutely melt.


So I have to respond thusly:

Not sure if troll... or just weeaboo.
 

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RatRace123 said:
and the chili,
Lay off the chili man, it's good stuff. Ever had Frito Chili Pie? If you haven't, you're a poor deprived soul, if you have and still think that, you're an even more deprived soul!
This post may or may not have been made with total serious, whether or not you wish it to be will be your choice
 

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I agree Christianity could be more badass. What happened to God obliterating idol-worshippers and sodomites with gigantic earthquakes that literally swallowed their city whole? Now all we get is a bunch of fundamentalist crap that drives more people away from Christianity then towards it. What bothers me about Western culture? The police. You can get away with bribing cops in Central America, but American cops are too damn honorable!
It's not that they're honorable it's just that it costs more, next shell out the benjamins