LittleBigPlanet Delayed Over Religious Controversy
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Cool, I think I just found the winner in my "find the most ignorant person you can" contest, for the week.HalfShadow post=7.74280.828264 said:
Then what does it mean? You're quick to bash somebody for giving their opinion, then don't even give yours? What's the point of your post, then?Baby Tea post=7.74280.828161 said:
Unless muslims have a copyright on those particular words, this makes absolutely no sense to me why they can't be used. People get offended and the world continues to turn. Oh well.
Theists are asshatesBaby Tea post=7.74280.828188 said:
Atheists are asshats
Agnostics are asshats
THEREFORE everyone is an asshat
All hailElArabDeMagnifico post=7.74280.828246 said:
Just emailed a mate in Hong Kong, hopefully he'll be able to get a copy there before the re-call.
On that note though, a lot of indie shops have been breaking the street date on this.
They're going to be getting fines when they can return the games because they're been sold.
IIRC it's a pretty hefty fine too...
On the music, ok I get that it's against the islamic code for the words to be song but why wasnt there
an outcry with the cd was originally made? It's licensed music. Media molecule didnt create it
On that note though, a lot of indie shops have been breaking the street date on this.
They're going to be getting fines when they can return the games because they're been sold.
IIRC it's a pretty hefty fine too...
On the music, ok I get that it's against the islamic code for the words to be song but why wasnt there
an outcry with the cd was originally made? It's licensed music. Media molecule didnt create it
The irony here is that for all people fear the government censoring their games it is in fact the corporations, fearing loss of revenue, that will be the worst censors we are likely to encounter.
Still, as annoyed as I am about this, I can't but wonder if I'm viewing this through an extremely narrow cultural lens. I'm not a Muslim so it's impossible for me to judge the severity of this insult. The Japanese are infamous for including black face sambo stereotypes in their comics and the occasional videogame(I'm looking at you Jynx). This would be unthinkable in the US. But the Japanese didn't have to deal with the social upheaval associated with slavery and the civil rights movement, so the image carries no weight for them. Just as using some oddly apocalyptic words from the Qur'an in a song means nothing to me.
So am I frustrated the game is being delayed by something that a majority of Americans won't blink twice at? Absolutely. But in a game hoping to foster an enormous community with the relatively universal appeal of its material, I can certainly understand Sony's decision and even respect it.
Still, as annoyed as I am about this, I can't but wonder if I'm viewing this through an extremely narrow cultural lens. I'm not a Muslim so it's impossible for me to judge the severity of this insult. The Japanese are infamous for including black face sambo stereotypes in their comics and the occasional videogame(I'm looking at you Jynx). This would be unthinkable in the US. But the Japanese didn't have to deal with the social upheaval associated with slavery and the civil rights movement, so the image carries no weight for them. Just as using some oddly apocalyptic words from the Qur'an in a song means nothing to me.
So am I frustrated the game is being delayed by something that a majority of Americans won't blink twice at? Absolutely. But in a game hoping to foster an enormous community with the relatively universal appeal of its material, I can certainly understand Sony's decision and even respect it.
Anyone who hasn't heard the song and question and would like to do so can find it in full at the MySpace page of the artist, Toumani Diabate.
http://www.myspace.com/toumanidiabate
http://www.myspace.com/toumanidiabate
If a patch has been made, what's a recall going to do? Cost more money for them?tendo82 post=7.74280.828345 said:
You know Sony caught shit for that church level in Resistance.... I can see why they decided to just scrap the disks even with the day one patch. Personally I think it's the right thing to do for any kind of day one patch because not everyone does have internet.
Duh, sorry, it's Tapha Niang. It was actually released in 2006 and licensed for use in the game, and interestingly, the artist is apparently a "devout Muslim."runtheplacered post=7.74280.828364 said:
This isn't about religion, it's about censorship and politics. What the hell man? My mom's a pacifist and is often deeply, deeply offended when I cut a dude's head off in a video game or shoot a guy in the head. Offensive materials should not hold a game from being released. Change the rating maybe, but not delay a release.
Sorry, but whatever your faith is, the fact that you are offended should be a real shame... and completely irrelevant
Sorry, but whatever your faith is, the fact that you are offended should be a real shame... and completely irrelevant
And now, a word from Eli Sunday.axia777 post=7.74280.828151 said:
I AM A FALSE PROPHET, GOD IS A SUPERSTITION!
Thank you. *hits with bowling pin*
What makes it a double standard is that Christian groups often *do* express outrage over the (mis)use of Christian material in film, games, or entertainment, but this outrage does not provoke fear, apologies, cancellations, and/or world wide delays of products. And one can't claim economic basis for the action, because for most Western products there are far more Christian consumers than Muslim consumers.Baby Tea post=7.74280.828188 said:
So when companies have such visceral reactions to the outrage of one religioun, yet ignore the outrage of another religion, without economic basis, it seems like the very definition of a double standard.
Guy on page 1 reminded me of the Manchester Cathedral fiasco. As I recall Sony apologised, but they didn't change it. Why not do the same? Apologise for any offenses caused, but simply say that they're not changing it.Archon post=7.74280.828428 said:
That outrage also doesn't often provoke death fatwahs from the outraged either.Archon post=7.74280.828428 said:
