LMGs = RAGE!

[Silver Patriot]

I bet half the people in this thread have never played BC2.

I also bet even fewer have actually used the M60. It was (when I last played it, a while ago) the best weapon in the game by far. Pinpoint accurate with barely any recoil, and it killed in 3 shots or so too.

Only gun a Medic needed to use really. Made me top the scoreboard most games.

Honestly I stopped playing after I maxed out all of my classes. All of my classes used the same gun, the M14. God I loved that thing. Worked really well for the recon class.

Also if we are going to talk about things overpowered in BFBC2 lets talk about the tank. A competent tank driver with the right "perk" (Which depended on whether you were fighting other tanks or people) and a proper tank crew could DECIMATE. I should know, I have the metals to prove it.

 

[Cogwheel]

Not that I've played Bad Company, but who's this Lieutenant Marzipan Gorilla you're talking about?

I see what you did there.

But on topic, I've sniped with LMGs before, on other games. All you need to do is not be out in the open, and all they need to do is not fire like a maniac and actually have some patience.

The irony of it is that for all the quoting, no one has actually told me what an LMG is.

LMG= Light Machine Gun. Such as the M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon).

Thanks. Been told a few times by now, though.

 

[MattyDienhoff]

This is a big part of why I don't play competitive FPS games.

To have any kind of serious competitive multiplayer game balance has to come before everything. The problem is that some weapons are simply far more effective than others, and that's not surprising as it's perfectly realistic, however in a competitive multi-player game there really shouldn't be an advantage based on picking one class, spec, loadout, or weapon over another, yet there is.

I personally don't think that snipers as a general concept belong in this type of game, they are complained about through the entire FPS spectrum, and it's easy to understand why. Killing people from concealment at extreme range with one shot is what snipers do, but it's not exactly a fun thing to be on the receiving end of. One of the big complaints in a lot of FPS games is of course everyone rolling a sniper class, and then it turning into ridiculous super-long range pop and shoot engagements.

I agree completely. This is also one of the reasons I tend to prefer cooperative multiplayer (especially when it comes to FPS), in such games balance is still important to some extent but doesn't come before everything else (since designers don't have to worry about being fair to computer controlled opponents, any 'balancing' generally concentrates on moderating difficulty).

 

[McNinja]

Not that I've played Bad Company, but who's this Lieutenant Marzipan Gorilla you're talking about?

I see what you did there.

But on topic, I've sniped with LMGs before, on other games. All you need to do is not be out in the open, and all they need to do is not fire like a maniac and actually have some patience.

The irony of it is that for all the quoting, no one has actually told me what an LMG is.

LMG= Light Machine Gun. Such as the M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon).

Thanks. Been told a few times by now, though.

Yeah, I realized that after I posted. Well, at least you know. And knowing is half the battle.

 

[Glademaster_v1legacy]

Oh god, someone dies too much from a certain type of weapon and suddenly it is overpowered and needs to be removed. Why am I not surprised?

No see this is a problem I have in a lot of FPSs. Literally LMGs are always over powered in almost all FPSs.

play some Amra or Operation Flashpoint for a while.

LMG's are suppressive weapons first an foremost, so a degree of accuracy along with pure fire volume is what you will find in all FPS's unless you play casual ones like CS:S, in which case: M1 + w

but taking into Bad Company 2's mod system, adding a 4x scope can greatly increase the lethality of ANY weapon you put it on.

yes, including the M95, quadruple for the M95.

but if you are still wondering how they are hitting you from 100+ yards, its all about burst fire.

Three to five shots each pull to keep a good grouping, and always stay as low as you can to increase accuracy, though you cant really do that in BC2 since everyone forgot how to lay down in prone.


in all, remember the holy doctrine of the FPS:



Sniper -> [LMG -> Assault -> CQC -> LMG]

The only way you can use one of those over a certain range is if you're just good, they're not overpowered at all, some of them are better for different types of combat, yeah, but in the end, it's the player that matters.

Now, shotguns? Those are overpowered!

you...........

[HEADING=1]LIE[/HEADING]


I would kill for a FPS that had shotguns portrayed properly instead of "oh, they are only able to hit things 5' in-front of the player!"

I mean, seriously, I can hit a medium sized target with my non-choked 12 Ga. at roughly 40-55 meters with regular buckshot, I don't see how trained military personnel (granted, in a video game) cant do the same with high quality firearms!

They are not actually that bad in BF:BC2 with the slugs. I managed to one hit someone at least in game 15 meters away.

OT: If you want overpowered LMGs at long range go play CoD on HC. One shot in your foot and you are dead. LMGs are fine in BC2 and even CoD normal mode.

 

[maddawg IAJI]

I'm a medic and therefore am the biggest target, I trade out an effective offensive tool for the ability to revive and support my teammates, I sacrifice quick reloads and a low recoil rate for a large magazine. I think it makes the game well balanced in my opinion. If you really want something to complain about, how about the people who put shotguns on when playing as a sniper?

 

[Cogwheel]

Not that I've played Bad Company, but who's this Lieutenant Marzipan Gorilla you're talking about?

I see what you did there.

But on topic, I've sniped with LMGs before, on other games. All you need to do is not be out in the open, and all they need to do is not fire like a maniac and actually have some patience.

The irony of it is that for all the quoting, no one has actually told me what an LMG is.

LMG= Light Machine Gun. Such as the M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon).

Thanks. Been told a few times by now, though.

Yeah, I realized that after I posted. Well, at least you know. And knowing is half the battle.

...And shooting stuff is a quarter, and complaining on forums later is another quarter.