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JudgeGame

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I just read a pretty funny and helpful rant on the Friend-zone theory and by association Nice Guys (tm). I thought I should link it to see what people thought.

We need to talk about the Friendzone

How is this even a thing? I?m a dude. I get it. Girls can be scary. They look just like humans, but they make Weird Things happen in your pants-area. It must be magic. They are the Gargamels to your dick?s whatever-Smurf-your-dick-is.

(Sidenote: the makers of The Smurfs meant for each Smurf to represent a different kind of dick. There are 99 dick archetypes. Mine?s Vanity Smurf because it?s so god damned beautiful. Yours might be Baby Smurf because it?s so tiny or Fakir Smurf because it?s racist as hell.)

Actually, none of that is true. Girls are normal humans, and I?m pretty sure Smurfs aren?t dicks, though the hats are suspicious. The problem is that when you see a girl your body goes all Breaking Bad and starts manufacturing chemicals that Jack You Up. That?s scary. I know. I overdosed on PCP once.

Before I launch into this I need to say that if you?re a high school kid, and you?re getting ?friend zoned,? I do not blame you for being an idiot. You?re going through a lot of bullshit right now, and your body is more like season 4 of Breaking Bad where for a grown man it?s more like season 1 or 2. But read this article and become wiser than your fellow dweebs. Stop fearing girls as capricious and devastating forces of nature and start seeing them as people who are EXACTLY LIKE YOU except with different pants-parts and, in many cases, different shirt-parts.

If you?re a grown man (read: 19 or older, and I?m cutting the 18 year olds a fucking break here) and you get ?friendzoned,? then the following words are for you, Friendzone.

Stop it. How is this even happening? What are the events that are occurring? This is what I imagine:

You become attracted to a woman.

You are friendly to that woman in the hopes she will show you her vagina.

She mistakes your friendliness for friendliness and befriends you, neglecting to show you her vagina.

You act like a butthurt little asswipe, forever placing yourself firmly outside of the circle on the Venn diagram of dudes she will ever show her vagina to.

You complain about it on the internet, and 1000 other maladjusted bro-dudes go, ?I know that feel,? and you are validated in your misogyny.

We?ll call that Scenario 1 because there is a second scenario I imagine where ?friendzoning? may occur. We will refer to this as Scenario B. (Did that throw you off, Friendzone? Keep on your toes. I am the ninja master in your training regimen to stop being a douche bag.)

You become attracted to a woman.

You befriend her in a passive-aggressive, it?s-us-against-the-world kind of way.

She tolerates that because she?s too nice to tell you, ?fuck off, you creep.?

She dates an actual interesting guy with an actual personality.

They break up, and she hurts.

You offer your shoulder to cry on.

She cries on your shoulder.

She dates another interesting guy.

You go, ?What the fuck? You cried on my shoulder! Show me your vagina!?

She reacts something like, ?I thought we were friends, you creepy-ass, fucking creep!?

You tell the internet you?ve been friendzoned.

The internet validates your misogyny.

So, what?s wrong? You?re a nice guy, right? Why aren?t theses Stupid Whores showing you their vaginas? Probably because you?re too nice. You should be a douche bag like that guy she dated who had interests besides pretending to be her friend while simultaneously trying to eye-laser her pants off. Well, good news: you ARE a douche bag!

Consider something for me. Imagine that I, an incredibly good-looking, nice, eligible man, was walking into a shop ahead of you. As I reach the door I stop to look behind me, and I see you there only a few paces away. So I wait and hold the door. Maybe you say something like, ?Thanks, bro. That was really nice.?

To which I respond, ?Yeah, it was. Now you know what you have to do, right?? And I take my dick out.

Would that be uncomfortable for you? Would it be unpleasant for you to live in a world where, if a man was nice to you, it meant he expected you to pleasure him sexually? Guess what! That?s uncomfortable for women, too. Isn?t that weird? It?s almost like they?re the same kind of person you are. WEIRD!

No, actually. It?s not weird. It turns out they are the same kind of person you are, and having unwanted dicks around is as horrifying to them as it is to you. So, stop. Stop it with your unwanted dick.

Here?s the hard truth, Friendzone. You?re not a nice guy. You are a gutless, pathetic, sad, horny little worm who?s too afraid of rejection to just tell a woman how you really feel. Your anger when she doesn?t psychically glean your unspoken desires and automatically reciprocate them is actually just you externalizing the disgust you feel for your own cowardice. You think pretending to be friends with a woman will get her to have sex with you because women are sex-objects to you. You can?t imagine a non-sexual friendship with a woman being rewarding in any way because you don?t think of them as whole, real people. It doesn?t occur to her to date you either because your pandering comes of as unchallenging and uninteresting or because your creepiness is obvious and unnerving.

How can you stop being such a douche bag? Well, I suggest forming a friendship with a woman. You?re going to need to find one who can put up with a lot of bullshit, because that?s all you?ve really got to offer at this early stage. A good indicator is if she?s been married a long time or has raised children. Invest time and energy in this relationship WITHOUT thinking about your constant loneliness-boner. Once you have internalized the knowledge that your new friend has thoughts, feelings, hopes, dreams, AND breasts, take a look around you. Look at the world. Look at all of the people with breasts. Those people are just like her, just like your friend. They, too, have thoughts, feelings, hopes, and dreams. Even the ones you want to fuck. Isn?t the world magical?

Here?s my last advice, Friendzone. People, men and women both, are complex, emotional creatures, and virtually all of them are horny. If you?re honest with yourself and honest with them you will form trusting, open connections with a large network of humans. Those people are called friends. You will be in many friend zones. You will be a better person. Someone will fuck you. Trust me.

Original post: [link]http://yeti-detective.tumblr.com/post/38349905931/we-need-to-talk-about-the-friendzone[/link]
 

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That was a fun post to compliment my breakfast. Unfortunately this topic has been done to death around here >.>
 

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In response I give you a reply to that original post because i'm too lazy to think of one and I bet this is equally as valid.
rainbowrobotunicorn said:
I really want to like these ?anti friend-zone? posts. I really do.
A lot of them start out with ?hey, girls are people and you should treat them like people? and say a lot of really great things about not reducing an entire gender to STRANGE GIRL BEINGS
...and then they proceed to go on and reduce all guys to being penis-creatures that only care about sex. Like... I know there are guys out there like that, but it's always kind of seemed to me like the self-labelled Nice Guy types are more looking for emotional validation, or just to have someone out their find them desirable, which... is not at all a healthy reason to want a relationship, but still. People are complex, and as this post has discussed, should not be reduced to sex objects or objects-of-sexing.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT THIS POST ACTUALLY HAS SOME GOOD ADVICE.

also, guys, if you have no interest whatsoever in being friends with a girl and you just want sex, then don't try to be her friend. just flirt and if she doesn't respond or appear interested, then POLILTELY MOVE ON AND FIND SOMEONE ELSE. Don't spend all your time trying to turn a friend you don't even want to be friends with in the first place into a girlfriend.

and if you DO have a friend that you genuinely care about but also happen to have unrequited feelings for, just be honest with her, and respectful of her feelings and desires. If the feelings are making it impossible for you to be a good friend without constantly feeling bitterness or anger, it might be for the better of both of you if you just take a break from the friendship for a while until you can be actual friends again.

tl;dr: guys are complex and girls are complex so how about we just listen to and respect each other and not reduce each other to sexual stereotypes or sex objects okay? also FRIENDS ARE GOOD THINGS MMKAY?
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Darken12

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I really wish the term friendzone didn't exist. It implies there's something inherently bad with having a non-sexual relationship with a member of your preferred gender.

Also good life advice in general is to stop obsessing about sex and relationships. Sex is important, I get it, but it's not the end of the world when someone doesn't want to have sex with you. Shrug it off and move on. In fact, it's highly advisable to have discernment when it comes to sex. Not being willing to fuck anything that moves is a highly desirable trait in a human being, particularly in men (women have been told how to behave in matters of sex for so long that we should seriously give them a break. If they want to fuck anything that moves, let them), so cutting the desperation is always a good move.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
What in the actual fuck did I just read?
my reaction is the same.
friendzoning doesnt exist. there is nothing wrong with being just friends and you can go from boyfriend to friends and vice versa.

maybe when men stop trying to fuck everything that moves girls stop being alien. and yes they are alien. but no time for that, its 5 pm and im off work!
 

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Okay, I was just sort of friend-zoned by my girlfriend of two years. She said she just isn't attracted to me.

Then again, she has Schizophrenia, and whenever she has stress, she becomes emotionally distant. Right about Christmas, this happens, and she kind of abandons her friends, but never me. This year was getting especially bad for her, and then she pops this. She says she still holds me closer than anyone else, but she said she needs space to figure herself out.

Wat do?
 

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RadioactiveMicrobe said:
Okay, I was just sort of friend-zoned by my girlfriend of two years. She said she just isn't attracted to me.

Then again, she has Schizophrenia, and whenever she has stress, she becomes emotionally distant. Right about Christmas, this happens, and she kind of abandons her friends, but never me. This year was getting especially bad for her, and then she pops this. She says she still holds me closer than anyone else, but she said she needs space to figure herself out.

Wat do?
Look for a girlfriend? I dunno. Do you want a girlfriend? Do you want sex? This is all very relative.
 

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Well... this made me laugh a bit.

Yep, friendzoning is not A Thing, and I'm tired of people who pretend it is.
And it makes me a little sad that so many guys can't value females as friends.

Still, people have been less whiny about it on here recently, so this is a little out of the blue, but it's funny.
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2012/12/problem-nice-guys/
More on that there.
 

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6 simple words to avoid the dreaded "friendzone"

"Would you like to date me?"

She says yes then everything's groovy, she says no then you at least have an answer and can move on with your life.

It's a win-win situation.
 

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RTSnab said:
That awkward moment when you thought this thread would be about playing League of Legends with friends so you have a more coordinated team.....


BTW, Didn't read, "lol".
Good to know I wasn't the only one.

[small]Why yes, I am going to post March of the Fire Ants at every possible and impossible opportunity.[/small]
 

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Diablo1099 said:
*Enters Off-Topic*
.......again?....Christ above.
*Leaves Off-Topic*
No Don't Leave!

Just give us a chance, maybe have some wine, talk about gun control and circumcision? Eh? If that doesn't tickle your fancy, we'll treat you to a nice flamewar over feminism or post-count.

We can make this work......please just don't leave

 

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Men and woman are different. More so than just a couple of reproductive parts.
Our brains process information differently, for one. Kind of a big deal on how someone thinks and behaves.

I don't really care about anything else you said.
I've never had a girl tell me we should just be friends. Probably cause I'm charming and adorable.
 

Legion

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I always find it slightly irksome when new members come on and bring up what they foresee to be a new and controversial topic, when it has been done a hundred times before.

When a girl says that you should "just be friends" or that they "cherish your friendship too much to risk it on a relationship" the chances are they are trying to politely tell you they don't find you attractive. It's not some magical zone you are stuck in forever, they are not saying there is some crazy reason for why you cannot be together. They are probably trying to spare your feelings by not stating that they do not see you as attractive in the sense that you hope.

Some girls end up finding that person attractive at a later date, some don't. That's how relationships work, they can't be summed up in a nice and simple little category that encompasses everything.

Phasmal said:
Still, people have been less whiny about it on here recently, so this is a little out of the blue, but it's funny.
http://www.doctornerdlove.com/2012/12/problem-nice-guys/
More on that there.
Some valid points, but still far too generalising.
 

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
What in the actual fuck did I just read?
I quit half way through, I confess. Something about gargling vanity dick smurf.
 

Berithil

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Ok, I got to the part about our bodies being like Breaking Bad, then said "screw it, I'm skipping to the comments".

Not exactly sure what I was reading, but the Friendzone thing has been done numerous times before. It's nothing new.

On a positive note (for you, at least), this thread will undoubtedly get a lot of posts from people saying the same thing, so... score for you... I guess?
 

Moth_Monk

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People need to accept the cold truth that young, single males are ONLY interested in attractive females for sex.
 

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RadioactiveMicrobe said:
Okay, I was just sort of friend-zoned by my girlfriend of two years. She said she just isn't attracted to me.

Then again, she has Schizophrenia, and whenever she has stress, she becomes emotionally distant. Right about Christmas, this happens, and she kind of abandons her friends, but never me. This year was getting especially bad for her, and then she pops this. She says she still holds me closer than anyone else, but she said she needs space to figure herself out.

Wat do?
Give her space? For a bit. (Us schizophrenics love our space). She may come back around, but putting pressure on her will only create an equal and opposite reaction (physics applies to love right?), i.e. she'll come to resent you. So give her time and be supportive but un-pushy and she'll probably get back into a more relaxed zone, which'll lead to more acceptance of you, hopefully.