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Doclector

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Once again, most of my friends have disappeared from xbox live, and two of them seem to be outright avoiding me for no damn reason. I'm already starting to feel lonely, and I hate it, and I hate myself for feeling it. I cannot afford to rely on human beings, they are all inherently untrustworthy, they can be best friends with you for years and then stab you in the back, it matters not to most of them. I can't afford to feel lonely. Loneliness is weakness, as is depression. I can't allow it to distract from my goals.

Nor can I go else where for social interaction. There is nowhere for said activities which don't involve litres of alcohol and music made by machines. Besides, even if I was to find somewhere, even if I wasn't killed for not being like them, they'd only betray me on the end. I must be self sufficient.

Does anyone know how I could ignore loneliness? Or even somehow remove it altogether? Whenever I feel it, I either want to destroy myself, or everything around me. I can't afford such distractions.
 

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Loneliness isn't really a problem you can remove, more of one which you need to fix. Just my opinion however.

I agree that it can be irritating with most social circles involving alcohol or clubs etc, but there are other ways to socially interact besides alcohol and online. Why not begin a martial art you've been interested in? I've been doing jiujitsu for about 2 years now, and have met and made some fantastic friends through it. It doesn't even need to be a martial art, just a social hobby will help you meet people, such as going to the gym, art classes, even collage or anything else similar to it will help you meet and maintain more friends.

And if that doesn't work, you can always just play some single player JRPG's :)
 

The Hairminator

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You need to watch My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. It would do you great, you have to give something of yourself in a friendship- you can't expect everyone to be rushing towards you with the intention of befriending you, though.
 

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God, you sound like a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Loneliness and depression aren't weaknesses. Humans are social creatures by nature, even 'loners' need social stimulation from time to time, the human mind doesn't hold up well to isolation. Depression can be caused by any multitude of things. Depression on its own isn't an inherent sign of weakness.

Simply put, there's no way to avoid loneliness. Surround yourself with quality company. And don't think it impossible because man is a mere smelly ape etc etc. The faux-misanthropy is cute, but believe me, your attitude is ten a penny. I'm sure you'll find someone to chum around with once you swallow your pride and have a look around.
 

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Get a dog. Or a cat.
But probably a dog.

Or friends.

But since you are afraid of people, a dog might be the answer.
Or.. It has to get out and get exercise.. Which mean you might meet people.

Get a fish perhaps?
 

dicai

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The one guy that said the thing about taking up martial arts or a hobby is right on.It's a great way to meeting people with the same interests than you. And you don't have to force approach those people into small talks, because doing something toghether triggers any kind of conversation. Then is up to you to select with people do you like as friends and which as acknowledged people only. Then you probably go out with them and meet their friends and expand your social circle.

Nevertheless, you have to have some drive of some sort for meeting new people, because, although is fairly easy, keeping in touch is the hardest part(Not really if you take up a weekly activity, as you'll see them quite often).

Good luck :D
 

Doclector

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I hear you on the local club idea, but martial arts is a bad idea. The problem is not that I might not be good at fighting, rather that I might be too good. The last time I fought someone was in secondary school and I almost killed someone. So fighting is too risky, not to mention it brings back bad memories. So it would appear the trick is finding the right club. Not easy when my only real interests are film, gaming, and music, with my only real talent being film. Film and gaming are not typically catered for, and music clubs attract exactly the kind of typically popular people I try my best to avoid, as usually, they are the most hostile.
 

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Learn to become self-sufficient and goal oriented. If you learn to do things yourself instead of relying on the assistance of others, you won't feel like you need other people as much. Also, if you keep goals, you will have something to strive toward.

I understand what you're feeling, having almost no friends myself and a strong distrust toward people I don't know (which is pretty much everyone).
 

Erana

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As said above, we are social creatures. If you aren't too interested in interacting yourself, find somewhere that will at least expose you to people. If you aren't interested in boozing it up, why not try a local coffee shop? They aren't necessarily breeding grounds for hipster-extremists as the internet would like you to believe. A buck fifty for a cup of coffee and plenty of time in a new, relaxed environment isn't that unreasonable.

And yes, OP, most people are untrustworthy. But while it is often due to humans being petty jerks, its just as likely that such behavior is due to people simply not thinking. I mean, even with the greatest level of empathy humanity has ever known, someone may simply not be able to predict that another human being would be sensitive over, say, their inability to whistle or something like that. Honestly, I think you need to lower your expectations of people a bit and embrace casual friendships, even if someone isn't particularly reliable or generous. Just use your head in such relationships, and you'll be fine.

And if not martial arts, what about archery or fencing? Those require as much finesse as general fitness and while you can thwack the Hell out of someone in fencing, you aren't going to kill someone with a foil unless something seriously goes wrong.
 

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Doclector said:
I hear you on the local club idea, but martial arts is a bad idea. The problem is not that I might not be good at fighting, rather that I might be too good. The last time I fought someone was in secondary school and I almost killed someone. So fighting is too risky, not to mention it brings back bad memories. So it would appear the trick is finding the right club. Not easy when my only real interests are film, gaming, and music, with my only real talent being film. Film and gaming are not typically catered for, and music clubs attract exactly the kind of typically popular people I try my best to avoid, as usually, they are the most hostile.
I think your overall problem is you've got a bad attitude towards, well, everything, and are the primary obstacle in your own path.

I'll disagree on you saying martial arts are a bad idea because you went too far in a fight one time. Martial arts don't just teach you how to hit harder, they teach you how to hit properly, that includes learning restraint and ways to end fights without mortal strikes.

If your known interests are not catered for where you are either look further afield or be more open to things you haven't considered before.

It might require more effort than you seem to be putting into this to break into something new.
 

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Amethyst Wind said:
Doclector said:
I hear you on the local club idea, but martial arts is a bad idea. The problem is not that I might not be good at fighting, rather that I might be too good. The last time I fought someone was in secondary school and I almost killed someone. So fighting is too risky, not to mention it brings back bad memories. So it would appear the trick is finding the right club. Not easy when my only real interests are film, gaming, and music, with my only real talent being film. Film and gaming are not typically catered for, and music clubs attract exactly the kind of typically popular people I try my best to avoid, as usually, they are the most hostile.
I think your overall problem is you've got a bad attitude towards, well, everything, and are the primary obstacle in your own path.

I'll disagree on you saying martial arts are a bad idea because you went too far in a fight one time. Martial arts don't just teach you how to hit harder, they teach you how to hit properly, that includes learning restraint and ways to end fights without mortal strikes.

If your known interests are not catered for where you are either look further afield or be more open to things you haven't considered before.

It might require more effort than you seem to be putting into this to break into something new.
This
Attitude is fucking everything. Start working out, get fitter, start eating better and you will feel better. When you feel better you will become more confident.

Everybody respects confidence.

Trust me OP, once you change your attitude people will start to like you more. Once I did what I said to do at the start of this post my friendship group swelled from a group of 15 or so close mates to be broad enough so that everywhere I go on a regular basis I will see someone I know. When I walk into a room I get looks from people that I never got before. I'm happier and people notice.

People don't go out to give dirty looks to others. When you stop behaving like your posts suggest you do you may realise that. Good luck OP, it's not that hard.
 

Doclector

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Kukulski said:
Doclector said:
Nor can I go else where for social interaction. There is nowhere for said activities which don't involve litres of alcohol and music made by machines.
What's wrong with these?
I like a good drink as much as the next guy, but when it becomes the focus of an entire evening it becomes problematic. Also I think bars and the like may be the wrong place for me to meet the right kind of people, not to mention such places are very intimidating. And I can't rely on alcohol to hide my social ills forever.

As for the music, it just kinda drives me mad.

As for the other suggestions, as it happens I started working out a couple of weeks ago. It has made feel better, but I have no idea what to do next. When I enter a room, I can't shake the feeling that I don't deserve to be there, and everyone wants me gone. I try to think of reasons people would like me, but come up with nothing. I'm funny, but not enough. I'm a decent person, but since when did that matter to anyone? I ain't naive enough to believe in that, not anymore.

I know I have an attitude problem, but I have no clue how to solve it.
 

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Doclector said:
Once again, most of my friends have disappeared from xbox live, and two of them seem to be outright avoiding me for no damn reason. I'm already starting to feel lonely, and I hate it, and I hate myself for feeling it. I cannot afford to rely on human beings, they are all inherently untrustworthy, they can be best friends with you for years and then stab you in the back, it matters not to most of them. I can't afford to feel lonely. Loneliness is weakness, as is depression. I can't allow it to distract from my goals.
Loneliness and depression are not weak. The sooner you accept that, the sooner you can work towards staying away from it. Staying away from it doesn't imply that it's somehow wrong or weak though, it implies that they can be difficult for a person to get through, and can really bring them down.

Nor can I go else where for social interaction. There is nowhere for said activities which don't involve litres of alcohol and music made by machines. Besides, even if I was to find somewhere, even if I wasn't killed for not being like them, they'd only betray me on the end. I must be self sufficient.
Don't go to the clubs, from what you've mentioned in the OP and in your following posts, it's not something you enjoy. I completely understand that, as I feel the same way. Considering you don't enjoy them to begin with, it's unlikely you'd meet other people who'd share the same interests as you. It's far more likely you're going to meet people who are more interested in drinking to get drunk and partying every weekend. If that's not something you enjoy, don't go to clubs or bars. If that's the only thing you can do outside of gaming online, at least when it comes to interacting with others, don't settle.

Now, more importantly, I want to stress how your negative attitude towards everyone isn't going to help you, at all. The more you tell yourself that people will only betray you, the less likely you'll ever allow yourself to make any friends. This negative attitude will only breed negativity. The more negative you are, the more you'll push people away from you and feel lonely. The more lonely you feel the more you'll convince yourself that you were right all along, when that simply isn't the case. I'm not saying that people will never betray one another, or make mistakes, but it simply isn't so black and white.

Does anyone know how I could ignore loneliness? Or even somehow remove it altogether? Whenever I feel it, I either want to destroy myself, or everything around me. I can't afford such distractions.
You shouldn't ignore feelings of loneliness. Those feelings are telling you that you're lacking in the social interactions area. You're struggling because you're missing that aspect in your life. The more you ignore it, the more damage you will do to yourself. What you should focus on is why you're feeling lonely. I'm sure you know that's because you don't have any quality friends in real life, so what can you do to fix that? At this point I'd say it's safe to bet that the reason you haven't met anyone similar enough to be a friend in person is from a few things that possibly even overlap. You don't have to go to clubs or bars in order to interact with others. You can do that by simply getting out. The more you interact with strangers around you, the more likely it is that you'll meet someone you actually get along with. It's as simple as going out to the mall, checking out a games store, and being friendly. Go for a walk, through a park, and who knows. The point is to at least try. And while giving this a try, avoid telling yourself that it won't work, or that someone is out to get you. The more you focus on that negativity, the more negative you're going to come across. That much negativity will surely push people away, well before they even have the opportunity to get to know you.

I know I have an attitude problem, but I have no clue how to solve it.
First, you need to start recognizing when you're dwelling or focusing on any negative aspects in your life. Force yourself to focus on what you want, rather than what you don't have. Focus on what you enjoy, rather than what annoys you. I can't stress how important it is to avoid focusing on the negatives. The more you do so, the more you'll convince yourself that these thoughts are true. The more you dwell, the more you'll bring yourself down.

So, get yourself into a productive daily routine. Start doing things you enjoy, and continue doing other things you enjoy. Keep playing on XBL, and the more you do, the more likely it is you'll meet others you get along with. Having people you get along with to talk to, even if only online, will really help. From there, be sure that you're getting some form of exercise on a weekly basis. Ensure that you're eating enough, and sleeping at appropriate times. Get some sun, it really does help. Accept that change is never instantaneous, and that it will take lots of time and dedication. If you try all this, and still find yourself completely struggling and possibly even worse off than when you started, I'd suggest talking to a professional. There's absolutely no con to talking to someone. At the very least you'll have peace of mind, knowing that there's nothing serious that needs to be addressed. If not that, whomever you talk to may be able to recognize behavioural patterns that indicate one thing or another, and from there will be able to suggest a routine and/or a course of action to help get you into a better frame of mind. It all takes time, but isn't it worth it?