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Lord George

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mike1921 said:
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Anyway, year-around schooling and uniforms--bring 'em on. I think it would be beneficial.
How the hell are uniforms beneficial?
1. They cut down on kids being bullied because they don't keep up with the latest fashion/don't have enough money to buy nice clothes, also stops people diving into different groups based on the style of clothing they choose, and so no one gets discriminated against.

2. They give a clear divide between being in school and being out of school, when your in school you wear the uniform and you obey the school rules, when your not wearing the uniform you are outside the schools rules and can do what you want.

3.It hands the teachers more authority over the students as they are separated by the clothing they wear and stand out along with the fact that they have more privileges then they students by not wearing uniform i.e. they are not equal, with the teacher being in charge.

4. It teaches students to be individual in the way they think and act rather then on how they dress.

I think this could be one of the reasons that American schools are so bad (well from what I've been told by friends), in that they don't differentiate much between when your in school and when you out of it, the 3 month long summer break they have also doesn't help with this as they can't really get into the structure of the school system if they keep being separated from it for such a long period of time each year, a longer school year with shorter holidays could help things.
 

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bernthalbob616 said:
6 weeks summer holiday is what we have in the UK. How long is the holdiay for kids in the US?
o_O it varies, but usually around 3 months. So 12 weeks.

Seriously, what the hell Britain?
 

mike1921

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george144 said:
mike1921 said:
historybuff said:
Anyway, year-around schooling and uniforms--bring 'em on. I think it would be beneficial.
How the hell are uniforms beneficial?
1. They cut down on kids being bullied because they don't keep up with the latest fashion/don't have enough money to buy nice clothes, also stops people diving into different groups based on the style of clothing they choose, and so no one gets discriminated against.

2. They give a clear divide between being in school and being out of school, when your in school you wear the uniform and you obey the school rules, when your not wearing the uniform you are outside the schools rules and can do what you want.

3.It hands the teachers more authority over the students as they are separated by the clothing they wear and stand out along with the fact that they have more privileges then they students by not wearing uniform i.e. they are not equal, with the teacher being in charge.

4. It teaches students to be individual in the way they think and act rather then on how they dress.

I think this could be one of the reasons that American schools are so bad (well from what I've been told by friends), in that they don't differentiate much between when your in school and when you out of it, the 3 month long summer break they have also doesn't help with this as they can't really get into the structure of the school system if they keep being separated from it for such a long period of time each year, a longer school year with shorter holidays could help things.
1: maybe that was an issue in your school, but in mine unless you're wearing something so ridiculous that you're purposely wearing something that might get you picked on it won't effect you. Even then it's not a big deal, just a joke or two. With the exception of ridiculous shit that'll get you kicked out of school.

2: If you're in school you know it.

3: Wtf are you saying?

4: No, it just teaches them not to be individual in the way they dress. Besides, the students already are individual enough. Atleast in my school, there is not a single person there who isn't an individual, a good proportion of said individuals are dickheads, but they're still individual.

What do you mean they don't differentiate much between when you're in school and out of it? For one you're doing work and waiting to get out, and as scary as this is to believe, they're more behaved for the most part (yes, we get worse after we're out, scary thought, I know) for the other you're free.


Also, I would be completely screwed for atleast 1/3 of the year if I was wearing a uniform because I can't concentrate on shit when I'm restricted by clothes and sweating.
 

AbsoluteVirtue18

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barryween said:
That would suck. i already hate school, to make it longer would probably drive many kids to "phase out" and just stop paying attention in class, so I doubt it would help grades or anything.
Kids do that anyway, increasing the length of the school year would just piss them off.
 

mike1921

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Macksheath said:
cleverlymadeup said:
i think they should have better education rather than longer school years.
As a high-school senior, I can say this. I'm supposedly one of the best in my year, and longer years would kill me. Better to have teachers/lessons kids actually pay attention to, rather than keeping them in an extra two hours.

As I discovered in high-school, a teacher you can have a laugh with and trys to make the lesson interesting helps far more than the "read a book" rubbish some teachers try to force you to do.
This times a thousand
 

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IMHO, we should have a slightly longer school year, with a shorter break in between. Not year round or anything, because the break is necessary so you don't have overworked kids.

If you have a longer school year, that means that you have more time to go over what you have to before the end of the year, which means that (theoretically) either the kids understand the material a little better (if they've been paying attention. There was some brought up about the kids not wanting to learn. Really, it's their fault. The school system shouldn't be trimmed simply because it doesn't interest one set of kids. Whether it happens or not is up to the teacher's discretion.), or you've spent the normal amount of time on a subject and you've found time to cover more than what was required.
 

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nash_clovis said:
IMHO, we should have a slightly longer school year, with a shorter break in between. Not year round or anything, because the break is necessary so you don't have overworked kids.

If you have a longer school year, that means that you have more time to go over what you have to before the end of the year, which means that (theoretically) either the kids understand the material a little better (if they've been paying attention. There was some brought up about the kids not wanting to learn. Really, it's their fault. The school system shouldn't be trimmed simply because it doesn't interest one set of kids. Whether it happens or not is up to the teacher's discretion.), or you've spent the normal amount of time on a subject and you've found time to cover more than what was required.
These concepts are so simple they're scary. Everyone knows it's more time to cover material or cover more material. No one is debateing that because it's obvious.
 

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Raregolddragon said:
We don't need more school we need higher quality of school's.
How? You can't magically make schools a higher quality when the budget is extremely low. But, just getting better teachers is a problem in itself, some kids just refuse to pay attention and learn. But, if you're in normal classes I doubt a better teacher will help any at all because of the fact most of the class is pandering to different way kids can learn things and teaching the curriculum. I don't mind most of my teachers for honor and 'gifted' of sorts classes, most CAN teach a class very well, but from what my years in middle school have told me is that the kids are the main problem in teaching.
 

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Bulletinmybrain said:
Raregolddragon said:
We don't need more school we need higher quality of school's.
How? You can't magically make schools a higher quality when the budget is extremely low. But, just getting better teachers is a problem in itself, some kids just refuse to pay attention and learn. But, if you're in normal classes I doubt a better teacher will help any at all because of the fact most of the class is pandering to different way kids can learn things and teaching the curriculum. I don't mind most of my teachers for honor and 'gifted' of sorts classes, most CAN teach a class very well, but from what my years in middle school have told me is that the kids are the main problem in teaching.
Allocate more money to getting better teachers who know how to make kids shut the hell up. It's not a problem with the students, every class I go to the students act completely different when the teacher's in the room. Sure, there are a few that are unfixable or whatever but those are rare. Don't make the rules for getting a suspension (that goes on your permanent record, making you look bad) schizophrenic. I threw a grape at a kid to get his attention and would've got a suspension if the vice principal didn't like me enough to turn it into 5 lunch detentions, you don't get a suspension for fighting unless you bring a weapon. Also, no more making it so the only people in the school with air conditioning are the ones with the lowest grades. That pisses me off to no end -_- .