Looking for a deep RPG to waste countless hours of my life in.

[FactualSquirrel]

What.......

since when was oblivion not an rpg, I mean I can kinda understand the fallout 3, but that's mainly an rpg, and mass effect...... well, thats an rpg. WTF are you talking about sir!

I think what he means is he hasnn't played a deep RPG.

yeah but they are rpgs nonetheless, and those are the deepest rpgs this generation (that I can remember, I'm tired and don't play that many rpgs)

What.......

since when was oblivion not an rpg, I mean I can kinda understand the fallout 3, but that's mainly an rpg, and mass effect...... well, thats an rpg. WTF are you talking about sir!

Well Fallout3 leaves no doubt as to where it wants to go and what it wants to be in my eyes, seeing the devs talk about how many weapons there are and how proud they are of stuff exploding etc. they actually seemed to want to make Borderlands but got stuck with some of the old Fallout principles trying to keep a small fragment of what it could actually have been.

Mass Effect is a cover-based shooter with a story and a dialogue-system.

Oblivion is about the same as Fallout3, only instead of using guns you mainly got swords, can play it more like "Dark Messiah of Might & Magic" (which has almost NO RPG elements whatsoever even though you're using swords and stuff) by using bows and spells xD

If it looks like a shooter, plays like a shooter and smells like a shooter it is a shooter for me...

Most of the best classic RPGs I can think of play in an Isometric perspective and you have to coordinate a few different characters with differing classes/races that play differently and have completely different skills, spells and abilities and require certain tactics to succeed, which goes far beyond "equip best weapon, aim and shoot".

Fallout 3 I kinda understand where you're coming from, but what you've got to remember is that an rpg is not any game with a level-up system. An rpg is a game in which you make choices (for me anyway), and it's the same with oblivion, seeing as the combat in both of those games is pretty much garbage, and I like borderland's full on approach to shooting. Finally, mass effect. Ok, this one confuses me, as the action in that game is no where near the standard that's set by even the shit loads of cover-based shooters out there. What it is, is a deep, deep world in which you can spend ages, making decisions about your character and how he acts.

Oh, and a final word, fallout 3 is an rpg-cum-shooter, due to one thing: V.A.T.S.

 

[Axolotl]

yeah but they are rpgs nonetheless, and those are the deepest rpgs this generation (that I can remember, I'm tired and don't play that many rpgs)

Deepest RPG of this generation isn't saying much. Sure they're deeper than the current RPGs (unless Bioshock counts as an RPG) but that's only because this is one of the worst generations for RPGs they're still shallow and vapid compared to older examples of the genre.

Fallout 3 I kinda understand where you're coming from, but what you've got to remember is that an rpg is not any game with a level-up system. An rpg is a game in which you make choices (for me anyway), and it's the same with oblivion, seeing as the combat in both of those games is pretty much garbage, and I like borderland's full on approach to shooting. Finally, mass effect. Ok, this one confuses me, as the action in that game is no where near the standard that's set by even the shit loads of cover-based shooters out there. What it is, is a deep, deep world in which you can spend ages, making decisions about your character and how he acts.

Oh, and a final word, fallout 3 is an rpg-cum-shooter, due to one thing: V.A.T.S.

Oh hooray another semantics debate on "What is the definition of an RPG?" Please can we just not discuss it in this thread? Just this once?

 

[FactualSquirrel]

Deepest RPG of this generation isn't saying much. Sure they're deeper than the current RPGs (unless Bioshock counts as an RPG) but that's only because this is one of the worst generations for RPGs they're still shallow and vapid compared to older examples of the genre.

Oh hooray another semantics debate on "What is the definition of an RPG?" Please can we just not discuss it in this thread? Just this once?

Firstly, both those posts were mine, secondly, I said that that's what they meant for me, and thirdly, you're right about the rpg thing, (no Bioshock is not, IMO, an rpg), but the op doesn't mention any older (and better) rpgs, so I figured he didn't have the systems.

 

[TelHybrid]

Borderlands!

/thread

 

[blippity]

Chrono Trigger

 

[The Infinite]

If you happen to have a PS2 I wholeheartedly recommend Dark Cloud 2, it's rather similar to The Legend on Zelda in terms of gameplay, but the story is really well done and it has a lot of other defining features. Also you have the ability to custom enhance your weapons up to how effect it is against certain enemies, how elementally charged said weapon is among other things. Also depending on how you upgrade said weapon there are different paths to how it "evolves" so it's a pretty cool mechanic.

The game mixes things up with having 2 (well technically 4) different characters to play as. One being the slicing/magic person, the other being blunt weapon/piercing attack person. Anyways the game itself is rather long say roughly 50 hours in a typical run though but there is far more than just that. After a certain time in the story you get this really nifty golfing minigame which involves hitting the ball into an opposite coloured portal thing but it's good fun. Like Mario golf! Then there is this HUGE side quest where you get these "Scoops"; early on you get your hands on a camera and almost everything in the game is photographable and this comes to play later were you come up with "ideas" and have the ability to invent items from what photos you have. This again adds another layer to the gameplay since it's rather fun taking pictures of an enemy doing a specific thing or attacking in a certain way. Like pokemon snap. Finally there are these fishing things, where you have the opportunity to catch, train, breed and race fish to earn rare and useful items. It is of course completely optional but it's a fun little thing anyway.

So yeah.. I kind of rambled on a lot but seriously if you have a PS2 this is definately a game to get, I have no idea how many hours I've put into it but the replay value is great, I always seem to come back to it when I have ran out of other things to play.

 

[The DSM]

World of Warcraft.

Wave your social life goodbye...

 

[Spacewolf]

divinity 2 looks good although i havent played it maybe someone else has

 

[Graustein]

Assuming you're not the kind of person for whom turn-based combat is poison, I have several suggestions:

Chrono Trigger: One of the best games I've ever played, the story is immersive, the characters likeable and deep (except Crono, because he doesn't talk) with real motivations, and the dual/triple tech system means that combat remains interesting even up until the final boss. It also has more than a dozen alternate endings depending on how far into the story you decide to beat the final boss (he's accesible almost from the start, but impossible to beat until you've levelled up quite a lot and gotten good equipment - achievable by playing through the story).

Pokemon: No video game, in any genre, has greater party customisation than Pokemon. The sheer numerical combinations are mind-boggling, and even taking personal preference into account there's a lot of replay value. I've had a lot of fun picking a type (Fire, Water, Flying, Psychic) and playing up to the Elite Four with only Pokemon of that type. It gets easier and easier as they add Pokemon. If it's your cup of tea, it will keep you entertained for untold hours.

Earthbound: This SNES game is the dictionary definition of quirky. You play a young boy who gains psychic powers and must travel around the world collecting companions in order to defeat an eldritch abomination. While the gameplay is somewhat meh, the sheer originality of the entire rest of the game, including story, setting, characters, music and enemies [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q311xD6udo] make this a must-play.

Mother 3: Sequel to Earthbound (which was called Mother 2 in Japan), this game is only attainable in English by downloading the ROM and translation patch, but it is fantastic. Its tagline is "Strange. Funny. Heartrending.", and it most definitely delivers on all three counts. It looks gorgeous, despite being a GBA game, and has a cast as memorable as Chrono Trigger's. But what really sets this game apart is how deep and immersive the story is and, more importantly, how excellently it is told. I've seen it described as the closest games have ever come to literature, and if you play it, you'll see why. Quite frankly, this is the Maus of video games (although more cheerful. In parts.)

 

[Galad]

Deep, good and solid are all rather ambiguous terms on their own, fancy providing some more detail? If you can swallow the dated graphics, even for a game that came in 2001, or the slow combat, Wizardry 8 can be an interesting experience, even if somewhat hard to swallow after Dragon Age...

 

[Bureacreative]

So after beating Dragon Age Origins ( which compare to Mass effect was quite dull during a majority of the game.I really dislike games where every NPC in the game wants to tell you their life story ). In the past few months I've beaten games such as Fallout 3, Oblivion, Mass Effect and even a little bit of Elder scrolls but now I feel my RPG void again and I'm itching for a good solid RPG once more. Any recommendations?

Way to steal OnyxOblivion's avatar. Now I have another Hypno Toad to give all glory to...

How do you think I feel?

Oh well.

On-topic:MORROWIND. If you haven't played it already.

Otherwise, Puzzle Quest. The AI's a cheap bastard sometimes, but its still great fun, and is literally on everything. (DS, PSP, 360, PC, PS2/3, Wii)

MORROWIND. MORROWIND