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THANK YOU Pinkamena Diane Pie for pointing out what so desperately needed to be said. Wholeheartedly agree.RedEyesBlackGamer said:
DANG IT, double post--sorry, didn't mean to do that shit.
Uhh, something to say... might as well use this constructively.
The Witcher 2? No character customization, but it fits a lot of those criteria. Me, I read your list and the first thing that comes to my mind--oddly enough--is Harvest Moon. I miss that game.
Uhh, something to say... might as well use this constructively.
The Witcher 2? No character customization, but it fits a lot of those criteria. Me, I read your list and the first thing that comes to my mind--oddly enough--is Harvest Moon. I miss that game.
Baldur's Gate 1+2. Clothes: Yes. Face: Yes. Hair: Yes. Voice: Yes. Personality: Well, you play the personality you want, so yes. Non-quest based activities? Hells yes. A bit of crafting in BG2, a lot of hunting (mostly trolls...), and some potions can indeed be used offensively in combat.
But yeah, you're best off with tabletop gaming. Grab yourself the core three D&D 3.5 books, bookmark the d20srd [http://www.d20srd.org/index.htm],kindap recruit some friends to play and enjoy yourself.
But yeah, you're best off with tabletop gaming. Grab yourself the core three D&D 3.5 books, bookmark the d20srd [http://www.d20srd.org/index.htm],
WOO PATHFINDER WOORedEyesBlackGamer said:
Ahem. Excuse me. I agree with this. Tabletop gaming is ridiculous when it comes to what you can do. Though, I am assuming that you're looking for a video game, and on that topic, I can't particularly help you. I know what you're looking for, and I haven't quite found it either. I'm hoping Skyrim will scratch this particular itch, and as awesome as I want/expect it to be, I'm pessimistic about that.
Actually, the first thing that pops to mind is Neverwinter Nights 2. Extensive character customization and a rather in-depth crafting mechanic are both prominent features. You also can't go wrong with any of the Elder Scrolls games (except maybe Arena).
The thing about Pathfinder (DERAILING MODE: ACTIVE!) is that it plays exactly D&D 3.5 with a bunch of house rules and a few homebrew classes. It didn't drastically revitalise the d20 experience in any way, nor was it particularly good at hamstringing the linear warrior/quadratic wizard problem that 3.5 (and 3.0, and 2e...) have meaning that class balance was still as bumfarked as ever.Tipatap said:
This is bad for Pathfinder, as it means that many people who started with 3.0/3.5 - as I did - will look at Pathfinder, say "Why should I even bother? I already have all these houserules I made myself. Why go through the effort of learning and adapting a whole new set for what is essentially the same experience?" Of course, Pathfinder has existed too long to really change the game so now they're stuck hoping to get new tabletop fans to come to them over starting with D&D.
The only suggestion I was going to give you was Saint's Row 2. That's the game that comes closest to what you asked for.agentorange98 said:
The Fallout games are good with customization (although the original 2 are better at customizing personality to a wonderful extent, including lowering intelligence to a point where all you say is simple sentences, and 3 and Vegas are better at customizing visuals).
The Elder Scrolls, the open worlds they give are fantastic to explore.
I'd say give Dragon Age a try, but those games are so polarizing (borrow it or rent it before even considering buying it, and this is coming from someone who loves the series).
To be honest, the closest thing I can think of that fits most of your criteria is Sims Medieval. No lie.
Character customization (including voice, clothes, hair, personality).
Non-quest based activities (albeit most of them are simulation gameplay and what isn't is usually a rabbit hole in which your character vanishes and you get random popups with choices to make).
Crafting, hunting, gathering are all in the game (each Hero profession is given varying degrees of all of that, but you have to be using the right Hero to be able to take advantage of them fully, but you do get to choose quests and you can choose to only play quests that let you play the hero you want like Blacksmith or Spy).
And finally using potions offensively (the spy can create poison, but sadly it's not used in combat, but it is used to murder people you dislike, simply put some in food).
Now while this seems like an odd suggestion (as Sims is not a very active game) I thought I'd bring it up to give you the option, in case you are actually interested. If you are interested, keep in mind that as a series Sims is slow. Medieval has sword fights and the ability to poison or send a disloyal peasant to the Pit (and the monster that lives in said Pit), but it's still very much a simulation game with RPG elements (including leveling, but without much customizing of character after initial creating and classes).
Also, if you're interested tell me. I can give you some of the negatives and go in depth into what I feel about the game (and give you more bullet points). ^^
Heh, see, I started in on DND with Pathfinder, so this is all that I know. I'm sure that there are better/different/preferred methods to play, 4.0, 3.5, etc, but I'm greatly happy with this. Although I think we both can agree that DND and tabletop gaming in general is vastly creative and enjoyable.Amnestic said:
The Gothic Series would fit your bill nicely. The only thing it doesn't have is appearance customization with your character, so you're stuck with a guy as a character through all the games (the same guy as well). But other than that it has all you're looking for ( as far as I remember).
so what you are saying is get 3.5 d and d because ive been looking at 4 and 3.5 and cant decide wich would be betterAmnestic said:
4e is more 'balanced' between the classes and could be seen as an easier game to start with. I personally started with Baldur's Gate (based off of 2e) and when I was old enough, graduated onto tabletop with 3.5 and haven't looked back. I tried 4.0 but found it a bit meh in comparison. I would not go as far as to say one is better than the other, but I will say that I vastly prefer the way 3.5 feels over 4e. It doesn't have the stupidity that was the Spellplague in Faerun either, which is nice.pwned123456 said:
Almost everything you need to play a game of 3.5 is in the d20srd that I linked to you. I think it's missing a few things, like the exp required to level up (I always preferred to level up when it 'felt right' anyway rather than closely and meticulously tracking EXP, your mileage may vary) and a few other things but you can houserule past them. According to a quick google, the srd is missing:
1 - Character Creation Rules/Guidelines
2 - Experience Point/Reward Tables
3 - Character Leveling/Advancement
Those three things are in a standard 3.0/3.5 Player's Handbook and Dungeon Master's Guide, but most people could give you tips and tricks about them so you don't need them.
And to conclude: Some people prefer 4e, some people prefer 3.5, some people prefer Shadowrun or Old World of Darkness. I wouldn't say any of them are 'better' than the other, but I would advise you to try them out. Track down a local gaming store which sells such things and ask if you could try running a starter game with their materials. If they think they can recruit you to start buying books from them, they might just let you get away with a free game
thanks i have finally convinced a few friends to give d and d a try and i just was going to get the newest starter set but i was looking at a gameshop in our mall and they didnt have any 4.0 dm kits or players guide just the core 4e rules and a 4.0 monster guideAmnestic said:4e is more 'balanced' between the classes and could be seen as an easier game to start with. I personally started with Baldur's Gate (based off of 2e) and when I was old enough, graduated onto tabletop with 3.5 and haven't looked back. I tried 4.0 but found it a bit meh in comparison. I would not go as far as to say one is better than the other, but I will say that I vastly prefer the way 3.5 feels over 4e. It doesn't have the stupidity that was the Spellplague in Faerun either, which is nice.pwned123456 said:
Almost everything you need to play a game of 3.5 is in the d20srd that I linked to you. I think it's missing a few things, like the exp required to level up (I always preferred to level up when it 'felt right' anyway rather than closely and meticulously tracking EXP, your mileage may vary) and a few other things but you can houserule past them. According to a quick google, the srd is missing:
1 - Character Creation Rules/Guidelines
2 - Experience Point/Reward Tables
3 - Character Leveling/Advancement
Those three things are in a standard 3.0/3.5 Player's Handbook and Dungeon Master's Guide, but most people could give you tips and tricks about them so you don't need them.
And to conclude: Some people prefer 4e, some people prefer 3.5, some people prefer Shadowrun or Old World of Darkness. I wouldn't say any of them are 'better' than the other, but I would advise you to try them out. Track down a local gaming store which sells such things and ask if you could try running a starter game with their materials. If they think they can recruit you to start buying books from them, they might just let you get away with a free game
Hardly what most would consider an RPG to be honest... it seems like you want a sandbox action game with more character customization than most. Unfortunately there are barely any video games that have all of that.
I guess the closest video games to what you are asking for that I can think of is the baldur's gate series. But the one that has all of that and more would be the tabletop D&D games.
I guess the closest video games to what you are asking for that I can think of is the baldur's gate series. But the one that has all of that and more would be the tabletop D&D games.
I love how you ninja pretty much everyone with that.RedEyesBlackGamer said:
But yeah, if someone wants full customization, pen and paper is where it's at. I'm the DM of a 3.5 Eberron group, and over the summer I'll be teaching my girlfriend how to play with the Temple of Elemental Evil (found a 3.5 conversion).
Mount & Blade: Warband
It is a medieval game that is a mix between 1st/3rd person fighting and a campaign map where you travel around.
It is a medieval game that is a mix between 1st/3rd person fighting and a campaign map where you travel around.