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blinkythewalrus

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Hi! Before I start I'd jut like to say I'm new here (Brand new) and have no idea who (Or what) I am going to find in this forum. Anyway-TO THE POINT-MOBILE!
Basically I have recently started trying to play Supreme Commander (The first one) and it lags like a dead donkey. I've checked the system requirements and all I can understand is the graphics card bit-It says that the recommended is Nvidia 6800 or better; well I have an Nvidia geforce 8500 GT. The number is noticeably larger so I'm assuming that's not the problem. Can anyone tell me how to make it not lag??
 

DazZ.

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The rest of your system specs would be helpful.
8500GTs are not made for gaming, the 8 is larger but the 5 is not.
 

DazZ.

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blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
 

AtLeastImNotFrench

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Firstly, welcome. *Secondly, don't post the same thread twice. I would recommend having a good look at the 'Forums and You' sticky*.

OT: Supreme commander has the ability to utterly murder computers without a decent processor. SC demands at least a dual-core processor with 2.5GHz clock speed and good amount of RAM (Random Access Memory if you don't know) which will vary with your operating system. We would need to know more than your graphics card to solve the problem.

*double post error, nvm.
 

Sampler

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I tried digging the classic out recently but I had the exact opposite problem trying to run it on Win7 - it ran waaaay to fast. (the animations were quite funny).

What OS are you trying to run it on? What CPU and Memory do you have?

[edit]

Don't know why but I thought you were talking about Total Annihilation (think it was "the first one" that threw me) - yeah SC takes alot of CPU gumpf to push it as it has to calculate the ton of units both you and your opponents have.
 

DazZ.

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blinkythewalrus said:
D4zZ said:
blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
i have a vista so i think the instructions you give me may be a bit shaky
Indeed, but just put control panel into classic view and it should be fine.
 

AtLeastImNotFrench

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blinkythewalrus said:
D4zZ said:
blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
i have a vista so i think the instructions you give me may be a bit shaky
Go to your game explorer (start > Games) and click on 'see Performance information and tools' on the right hand side.
Edit: remembered this doesn't always work sry
 

blinkythewalrus

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blinkythewalrus said:
D4zZ said:
blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
i have a vista so i think the instructions you give me may be a bit shaky
wait i found it-
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @1.80GHz
Memory (RAM): 1022MB
System Type: 32-bit Operating System
 

AtLeastImNotFrench

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blinkythewalrus said:
blinkythewalrus said:
D4zZ said:
blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
i have a vista so i think the instructions you give me may be a bit shaky
wait i found it-
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @1.80GHz
Memory (RAM): 1022MB
System Type: 32-bit Operating System
There's the problem. Not enough Clock-speed or RAM.
 

blinkythewalrus

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AtLeastImNotFrench said:
blinkythewalrus said:
blinkythewalrus said:
D4zZ said:
blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
i have a vista so i think the instructions you give me may be a bit shaky
wait i found it-
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @1.80GHz
Memory (RAM): 1022MB
System Type: 32-bit Operating System
There's the problem. Not enough Clock-speed or RAM.
Whats clock sped and RAM? I have no idea what's happening
 

AtLeastImNotFrench

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blinkythewalrus said:
AtLeastImNotFrench said:
blinkythewalrus said:
blinkythewalrus said:
D4zZ said:
blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
i have a vista so i think the instructions you give me may be a bit shaky
wait i found it-
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU E2160 @1.80GHz
Memory (RAM): 1022MB
System Type: 32-bit Operating System
There's the problem. Not enough Clock-speed or RAM.
Whats clock sped and RAM? I have no idea what's happening
the clock speed is the '@1.8GHz. It's the amount of operations the processor does every second, with 1Hz being 1 operation per second. RAM is Random Access Memory, the memory store that your processor uses to hold temporary information.
 

Mekado

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clock speed is the speed at which your CPU is running (in that case 1.8 Gigahertz) is on the low side for supreme commander

RAM is random access memory(of which you have 1024M or !Ghz), which is also low

CPU and RAM for dummies:
let's say you're cooking something, you want to make 12 batch of cookies (the game).You're going to use the countertop (RAM) to prepare the recipe, then you'll use the oven (CPU) to execute the recipe (the game)

If your countertop AND your oven is too small, it's not going to go well, it'll be very slow to complete, see the parallel ? :)
 

Danny Ocean

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AtLeastImNotFrench said:
blinkythewalrus said:
D4zZ said:
blinkythewalrus said:
wheres my system specs?
Control panel > system. Should say your specs at the bottom, we already have your gfx card.
i have a vista so i think the instructions you give me may be a bit shaky
Go to your game explorer (start > Games) and click on 'see Performance information and tools' on the right hand side.
A more comprehensive way way is to:
1. Click the start button.

2. Type in 'dxdiag'.

3. Click 'save all information'.

4. Save it to a text file on your desktop.

5. Open this file; Highlight everything from 'Sound Devices' down. Delete that.

6. Highlight everything below 'Monitor' in the section 'Display Devices'. Delete that.

7. Delete 'DxDiag Notes' and 'DirectX Debug levels'.

8. Paste the rest here in a spoiler box. You'll get something like this:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/22/2009, 15:21:15
Machine name: ----
Operating System: Windows Vista? Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.090803-2339)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Inspiron 531
BIOS: oC)Phoenix - AwardBIOSTeDell System v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 3070MB RAM
Page File: 1595MB used, 4752MB available
Windows Dir: ---
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode


---------------
Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x9442)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9442&SUBSYS_E810174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 1786 MB
Dedicated Memory: 507 MB
Shared Memory: 1279 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)

Although the other way is much easier. >.>

blinkythewalrus said:
Whats clock speed and RAM? I have no idea what's happening
Your processor runs at 1.8Ghz. This means it completes 1.8Billion[footnote] That's the 'G' for the suffix 'Giga', meaning billions.[/footnote] operations per second.[footnote]That's the 'Hz' part. Short for 'Hertz'. Meaning 'Per Second'.[/footnote] Supreme Commander requires more than this to run well. Although your PC meets the minimum requirements, it only does just that. It'll run the program, but not at all well.

To fix your lack of RAM, you can simply go to http://www.crucial.com and use the system scan tool to see which type you need and how much you can have, then order the amount you would like. Dead easy.

To fix your CPU is much harder. I'm guessing from your previous posts that you're not particularly tech-savvy, and that's fine. You'll either need to buy a whole new computer, or get a tech-savvy friend from real life to install a new CPU for you. Either way, it's going to be expensive.

To fix your graphics card, again, you'll need to get a new one and install it, or get a new compuer. For the former, I'd recommend an ATI Radeon HD4850. They're pretty cheap now, and the one I use runs SupCom very well. Be careful though: You need to check that your motherboard has the correct socket for it. The correct socket is a 16xPCI-e slot. Since you already have a graphics card (Albeit a poor one[footnote]Your card is an 8500, right? The '8' part indicates which series it's in. Like the 'M' from a BMW. The '-500' part indicates where in that series it sits. The lower that number, the slower/poorer/weaker/cheaper the card.[/footnote]), you may well have the right socket anyway.

The best thing for you to do, I think, is find a tech-savvy friend in real life and get him/her to fix it. There are too many variables to sort something like this online in a short space of time, especially when you add your lack of knowledge about computers.

Really though, you need a whole new computer. Every component is lacking when it comes to supreme commander. Either go online to http://Dell.com or somewhere like that, or get a tech-savvy friend to put one together for you. The former will be more expensive, but easier and will come with a warranty. The latter will be just as easy for you (IF you get a friend to do it for you.), but could go wrong, and will have no warranty. It's up to you.

Hope I helped. =)
 

Mekado

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blinkythewalrus said:
Ah ok, now I see the light. Now how do I fix it??
You can "fix" the RAM, by buying and adding more, the CPU will probably be a little more tricky (and costly) since you'll probably have to change the motherboard too to accept a more recent CPU.Not a very good option.

Edit : also, for your graphics card , a 8500 isn't necessarily better than a 6800, for nVidia you have to read it like this ;

6-8-00 Generation on the board (6) , Generation of the GPU (graph processing unit 8) and revision (00)

Yours is a 8-5-00 so the board is more recent but the GPU (the processor doing the heavy graphics lifting) is a generation 5, which is actually worse than a 6800

You don't check the full number, it's actually split :)
 

Ph33nix

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get a new 9 series or the new 2 series. bye 9 i mean like 9800 or an ati 47 series

thats funny that is lags though considering i have a 7150 and sup com works great. (yeah that right i game on a laptop and it runs crysis.) it could be your processor is just to slow. you might also try just turning down the resolution and/or the graphics details or the AA (anti-aliasing)

EDIT: just saw your specs damn you need ram and a better processor
 

MrDarkling

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May have not been my problem but even this thread has helped me understand a few things, awesome I say! :D

Escapist....probably the only place where people are helpful.