Looks like Code Geass is getting a third season. Um... why?

[Kolby Jack]

http://www.newseveryday.com/articles/57982/20161206/update-code-geass-confirms-season-3-lelouchs-ressurection-rebirth-demon.htm

Don't get me wrong, I actually liked Code Geass when it was running on Adult Swim. It was insane, goofy, and overly-dramatic, but it had a charm to it and it was beautifully animated. I wouldn't consider it one of my favorite animes, but I like it well enough.

I just... the series ended. WITH AN ENDING. It had one big question left (is Lelouche alive or dead?), but everything else was wrapped up. There didn't seem to be much room for further adventures. Granted, the story was already one giant twist after another in the latter half, but man... I dunno. How do you guys feel about this?

 

[balladbird]

They were always flying by the seat of their pants during the second season, as it was. It was clear after a while that there was no real plan in their mind... somewhere around the point where they had characters miraculously surviving being at the epicenter of nuclear detonations without so much as a throwaway excuse to justify it, or having everyone in a motley band of outlaws, sans one, completely ready to turn on their leader after one conversation with someone they had no reason to trust.

I don't mean that to sound quite as negative as it probably came across, the fact that it was so goofy and ill-planned somehow made the entire package better... Code Geass is like the Resident Evil 4 of anime. You forgive its many, many flaws because it's a ton of fun, relishes in its own absurdity, and is self-aware enough about its camp-value that it actually becomes awesome.

I'm not sure how a season 3 would work, either, especially since the showrunners have already stated, in no uncertain terms, that Lulu is dead, but if they wanna make it, I say go for it. Could be a lot of fun.

 

[bastardofmelbourne]

Ha ha ha! Yes! This was my exact reaction.

Don't get me wrong, I love Code Geass and I'd like to see a sequel set in the same universe with new characters. Anything that provides me with more roller-blade robot fights is good.

But can we let Lelouch down to rest? His story got a pretty definitive ending. Let's focus on something different, like World President Ohgi dealing with the fallout a decade or so later. You can have a new cast of mecha pilots being overseen by a middle-aged Kallen who's too old for this shit, and a new Geass-armed Zero coming out and threatening to reveal the truth about Lelouch's death (Is it Suzaku? Is it some new guy? Suspense!) Maybe there's a neo-Britannian terrorist group, or a renegade moon colony. There's just so many possibilities that they could do with the setting that don't involve Lelouch at all.

But...let's be real. They're doing this for money, and dumbass fangirls are going to ***** if Lelouch doesn't show up and be pretty within their field of vision.

 

[balladbird]

But can we let Lelouch down to rest? His story got a pretty definitive ending. Let's focus on something different, like World President Ohgi dealing with the fallout a decade or so later.

Given that Ohgi is a bit of a hate sink amongst the CG fandom (he gets all the blame for the big event toward the end of R2) I admit, a sadistic part of me would be happy to see him star in the third season just to see the reaction it would cause.

 

[Fox12]

So much for lelouch creating world peace through self sacrifice.

It's almost as if his plan were incredibly stupid and short sighted.

 

[Zontar]

So much for lelouch creating world peace through self sacrifice.

It's almost as if his plan were incredibly stupid and short sighted.

I'm curious as to how they're going to explain away Lelouch surviving. I mean as much as fans love to think otherwise, he didn't get Charle's Code (he didn't kill him, the great subconscious did, and until his death he was using his Geass, which shows he had no Code) so it's not as though that'll be able to be used.

But yeah, the ending, as much as people love it, made no sense. Hell the last few episodes made no sense at all. I mean they knew he was Britannian, they knew he was manipulating them, but followed him anyway because their goals aligned. But because all this was accomplished with some (still to this day unexplained) powers, that broke the camel's back?

Also, why do people pretend Rolo redeemed himself? You don't kill Best Girl and then redeem yourself, you get karma.

 

[Redryhno]

So much for lelouch creating world peace through self sacrifice.

It's almost as if his plan were incredibly stupid and short sighted.

I'm curious as to how they're going to explain away Lelouch surviving. I mean as much as fans love to think otherwise, he didn't get Charle's Code (he didn't kill him, the great subconscious did, and until his death he was using his Geass, which shows he had no Code) so it's not as though that'll be able to be used.

But yeah, the ending, as much as people love it, made no sense. Hell the last few episodes made no sense at all. I mean they knew he was Britannian, they knew he was manipulating them, but followed him anyway because their goals aligned. But because all this was accomplished with some (still to this day unexplained) powers, that broke the camel's back?

Also, why do people pretend Rolo redeemed himself? You don't kill Best Girl and then redeem yourself, you get karma.

Eh, there's been a couple theories since the show first ended, but my favorite is that Lelouch's spirit is simply in someone else's body, similar to Marianne's resurrection(since you hear CC talking to Lelouch much like she did with his mother before she really showed up, or was that Charl...I forget).

Personally I'm hesitantly excited about this, since Geass is honestly one of the most impactful shows of the last decade and there's a shitload of extra material that never really made it to the animation stage besides a handful of OVAs essentially and the world is one of those fascinating things that just never got explored as fully as it could've.

But yeah, fuck Rolo, you don't kill Shirley that fell for Lelouch like five times even after finding out he was responsible for killing her dad and knowing his Zero secret and get to walk away with "fully redeemed and we apologize for ever considering you less than the holiest of saints" crap. This ain't Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

 

[Fox12]

I'm curious as to how they're going to explain away Lelouch surviving. I mean as much as fans love to think otherwise, he didn't get Charle's Code (he didn't kill him, the great subconscious did, and until his death he was using his Geass, which shows he had no Code) so it's not as though that'll be able to be used.

But yeah, the ending, as much as people love it, made no sense. Hell the last few episodes made no sense at all. I mean they knew he was Britannian, they knew he was manipulating them, but followed him anyway because their goals aligned. But because all this was accomplished with some (still to this day unexplained) powers, that broke the camel's back?

Yeah, I remember the second season being really lackluster. The first was goofy as all hell, but at least it made a kind of sense. The second season just jumped the shark completely.

Also, why do people pretend Rolo redeemed himself? You don't kill Best Girl and then redeem yourself, you get karma.

What are your talking about? Rolo didn't kill Kallen.

 

[Michel Henzel]

I'm curious as to how they're going to explain away Lelouch surviving. I mean as much as fans love to think otherwise, he didn't get Charle's Code (he didn't kill him, the great subconscious did, and until his death he was using his Geass, which shows he had no Code) so it's not as though that'll be able to be used.

But yeah, the ending, as much as people love it, made no sense. Hell the last few episodes made no sense at all. I mean they knew he was Britannian, they knew he was manipulating them, but followed him anyway because their goals aligned. But because all this was accomplished with some (still to this day unexplained) powers, that broke the camel's back?

Yeah, I remember the second season being really lackluster. The first was goofy as all hell, but at least it made a kind of sense. The second season just jumped the shark completely.

Also, why do people pretend Rolo redeemed himself? You don't kill Best Girl and then redeem yourself, you get karma.

What are your talking about? Rolo didn't kill Kallen.

Yeah I really didn't like the second season, even though I thought it started out decent enough, but quickly went from bad, to worse, to just plain fucking stupid. And while I kinda loathed the ending, I do feel it was probably the only way they could have ended it.

While I would love Lelouch to return, and honestly, Code Geass without Lelouch just isn't worth it imo. It would also mean the return of Suzaku. God why didn't that sack of human excrement also die in the end, is there no justice in this world?

 

[Zontar]

Also, why do people pretend Rolo redeemed himself? You don't kill Best Girl and then redeem yourself, you get karma.

What are your talking about? Rolo didn't kill Kallen.

Spoiler

Haha, but seriously though, Shirley was the only one who accepted Lelouch for who he was, something Kallen didn't. Also Kallen's kind of a *****.

 

[Revnak_v1legacy]

Also, why do people pretend Rolo redeemed himself? You don't kill Best Girl and then redeem yourself, you get karma.

What are your talking about? Rolo didn't kill Kallen.

Spoiler

Haha, but seriously though, Shirley was the only one who accepted Lelouch for who he was, something Kallen didn't. Also Kallen's kind of a *****.

Yeah, but she's hot and drives a robot.

OT - YES. I just hope and pray it is at least a third as nonsensical as the second season. Man did I love that show. Fucking hilarious.

 

[Tanis]

I can't even...blah.

THIS DESK. THIS DESK. THIS DESK. O...MY...GODDESS.
THIS DESK. THIS DESK. THIS DESK. O...MY...PRINCESS.
THIS DESK. THIS DESK. THIS DESK. THIS DESK. THIS DESK.

 

[Fox12]

Also, why do people pretend Rolo redeemed himself? You don't kill Best Girl and then redeem yourself, you get karma.

What are your talking about? Rolo didn't kill Kallen.

Spoiler

Haha, but seriously though, Shirley was the only one who accepted Lelouch for who he was, something Kallen didn't. Also Kallen's kind of a *****.

What can I say, I have thing for hot red heads who drive robots.

 

[Asita]

But yeah, the ending, as much as people love it, made no sense. Hell the last few episodes made no sense at all. I mean they knew he was Britannian, they knew he was manipulating them, but followed him anyway because their goals aligned. But because all this was accomplished with some (still to this day unexplained) powers, that broke the camel's back?

To be blunt, I find that people kinda miss the forest for the trees with this complaint. The problem wasn't that Lelouche was using powers, the problem was the implication of how those powers might have been used. Among the examples cited of people he had used those powers on were the Eunuchs who had tried to overthrow the Empress of China, and Euphemia who went on a very out of character genocidal massacre when she was on the cusp of making significant inroads towards liberating Japan.

The specifics of the accusations were irrelevant in front of the greater implicit accusation that Zero had been, in effect, orchestrating the war much like Palpatine in the prequel trilogy. That he drew in the Chinese by creating a coup that he would then crush to ingratiate himself to the nation's Empress and those loyal to her. That Euphemia's near success was an obstacle to his plans and thus it was worth turning her into a monster and sacrificing hundreds if not thousands of Japanese lives to create the facade that he and his Knights were the heroes the people needed. That they themselves could not be certain that they retained that precious gift of free will for as long as they served him. That he was every bit the monster that he played himself up as between that episode and the finale; that he was an evil manipulator who took his own personal ambition in clearing his path to the throne and dressed it up as a righteous cause to make his pawns gladly sacrifice themselves for his ambition. It's this implication that was supposed to be so damning.

 

[Zontar]

But yeah, the ending, as much as people love it, made no sense. Hell the last few episodes made no sense at all. I mean they knew he was Britannian, they knew he was manipulating them, but followed him anyway because their goals aligned. But because all this was accomplished with some (still to this day unexplained) powers, that broke the camel's back?

To be blunt, I find that people kinda miss the forest for the trees with this complaint. The problem wasn't that Lelouche was using powers, the problem was the implication of how those powers might have been used. Among the examples cited of people he had used those powers on were the Eunuchs who had tried to overthrow the Empress of China, and Euphemia who went on a very out of character genocidal massacre when she was on the cusp of making significant inroads towards liberating Japan.

The specifics of the accusations were irrelevant in front of the greater implicit accusation that Zero had been, in effect, orchestrating the war much like Palpatine in the prequel trilogy. That he drew in the Chinese by creating a coup that he would then crush to ingratiate himself to the nation's Empress and those loyal to her. That Euphemia's near success was an obstacle to his plans and thus it was worth turning her into a monster and sacrificing hundreds if not thousands of Japanese lives to create the facade that he and his Knights were the heroes the people needed. That they themselves could not be certain that they retained that precious gift of free will for as long as they served him. That he was every bit the monster that he played himself up as between that episode and the finale; that he was an evil manipulator who took his own personal ambition in clearing his path to the throne and dressed it up as a righteous cause to make his pawns gladly sacrifice themselves for his ambition. It's this implication that was supposed to be so damning.

But here's the problem: outside of the fact that he's been confirmed as royalty instead of them just suspecting it, the only part of that is the fact his manipulation stems from an ability he has and not his ability to play off people (which he still has but not anywhere near as much as what he had before). And the fact the information is coming from a source they have no reason to trust and every reason not to, the evidence provided is ludicrously easy to falsify, and the fact that those telling them the information had every reason to by doing so as a means of gaining power as a means of legitimising their rule over a country in the midst of a succession crisis, and what you end up with is a situation where even though it is true, they shouldn't have believed it.

And that was just one issue the final episodes had, not even touching upon the fact Lelouch's whole plan after that was based on the assumption he could win in a war against the Black Knights and Britannian Loyalists (something he needed stupendous luck on top of his abilities to accomplish) to take over the world, only so that he could add his name to the long list of brutal dictators who had come before him to focus the world's anger on him and then die, which somehow led to a free world in peace when in reality the outcome would be the collapse of Yugoslavia on a global scale and no outside force to bomb the fighting factions into submission.

 

[R Man]

But yeah, the ending, as much as people love it, made no sense. Hell the last few episodes made no sense at all. I mean they knew he was Britannian, they knew he was manipulating them, but followed him anyway because their goals aligned. But because all this was accomplished with some (still to this day unexplained) powers, that broke the camel's back?

To be blunt, I find that people kinda miss the forest for the trees with this complaint. The problem wasn't that Lelouche was using powers, the problem was the implication of how those powers might have been used. Among the examples cited of people he had used those powers on were the Eunuchs who had tried to overthrow the Empress of China, and Euphemia who went on a very out of character genocidal massacre when she was on the cusp of making significant inroads towards liberating Japan.

The specifics of the accusations were irrelevant in front of the greater implicit accusation that Zero had been, in effect, orchestrating the war much like Palpatine in the prequel trilogy. That he drew in the Chinese by creating a coup that he would then crush to ingratiate himself to the nation's Empress and those loyal to her. That Euphemia's near success was an obstacle to his plans and thus it was worth turning her into a monster and sacrificing hundreds if not thousands of Japanese lives to create the facade that he and his Knights were the heroes the people needed. That they themselves could not be certain that they retained that precious gift of free will for as long as they served him. That he was every bit the monster that he played himself up as between that episode and the finale; that he was an evil manipulator who took his own personal ambition in clearing his path to the throne and dressed it up as a righteous cause to make his pawns gladly sacrifice themselves for his ambition. It's this implication that was supposed to be so damning.

Frankly, I agree.

I often see the complaints about the betrayal and think things much like this. I think that people forget that Lelouch does some pretty heinous things, though not always deliberately, and that mind control is one of the most terrifying, and paranoia producing, concepts in existence.

Keep in mind too that several Black Knights had already begun to distrust Zero, due to his unusual actions (disappearing after S1, the attack on the Geass directorate, insisting on finding Nunnally, the strange behaviour of certain individuals like Guilford and Euphemia). That said, I wish that the idea had been explored/executed better. But in reality, Season 2 had all sorts of problems.

 

[Souplex]

I liked the first season a lot better than the second. At this rate I'll hate the third.

 

[Tiamattt]

Wow can't believe it's been 10 years, man does time fly. Like Souplex and presumably many others I too liked the 1st season a LOT more than I did the 2nd, but since it's very unlikely they still have the same writers the 2nd season did then perhaps the 3rd will be a lot better. I have no idea how since the ending is one of few things the 2nd season did well but hopefully it'll be worth the watch whenever it comes out.