Lost 24 of 27 DOTA games

[The Wykydtron]

How many Russians were on your team?

Kidding aside, losing streaks suck, especially when they aren't even close matches.

Nothing sucks more than having to wait 40 minutes for your team to lose.

The only thing I can suggest is you play a different game mode, might be enough to throw you out of the fucktard pool you seem to be currently residing and into some proper games

Y'know I thought the whole Russian thing could never be as bad as people were going on about. Then I played like 20 games of DOTA... What the fuck? Seriously, OP how many Russians were on your team? HOW MANY RUSSIANS?!

DOTA really needs a surrender vote badly. Considering that a fair few games go like 30/1 (not even exaggerating) kill wise or a Huskar gets fed, that's not really fun for anyone. There's only so far a pubstomp can go before it gets boring even for the team doing the stomping.

I technically support my friend but eh by "support" I mean we both can't figure out how to last hit too well because the engine in use in that game is fucking shocking (pathfinding pls) so we both go for last hits to to make sure one of us gets it. Supports can carry, buy Dagon gg. Lina's a support right? Either way Laguna Blade's "massive damage" is never as high as it should be... The mana cost isn't worth the damage half the time.

Then he hits 6 and jungles Meepo all game because he is 100% sure that the way to carry with Meepo is laning til 6 then jungling til lategame then using the power of farmed and leveled Meepo wins teamfights.

Works some of the time but Team Randoms can't help but start 4v5 fights then rage at him for not being there. Valid point once then they keep facking doing it.

Oh right yeah how to win. Here, enjoy your free ELO:

 

[RJ 17]

Each loss is worst than the last. My team gets more and more dysfunctional, with YOLO carries, or five melees during the pick, or mid game disconnects, or AFKs, or deliberate feeders. Enemy teams range from marginally competent (all that's needed) to crack squads of highly organized players.

Sounds to me like you've come down with a particularly nasty case of "Green Arrow Syndrome."

It's a condition I "discovered" back when I used to play CoD. "Green Arrows" are the random people you get paired up with on your team (who appear as green arrows on your minimap) and are generally people you can't count on. I made a joke-motto that "IF there's a Green Arrow behind you, you're about to get shot in the back." The sad part was that once I started taking that joke seriously, my game improved by a noticeable margin.

That is to say, in your case, I'm guessing you're just having a run of bad luck with random teammates you're getting paired up with. Now I've never played DotA (except the WarCraft III custom maps modeled after the game) so I don't entirely know how it works. Furthermore I don't know if you've got a group of friends that you play with as a standard team or if you're indeed just pairing up with random players, but I'd imagine that you are playing with a bunch of "Green Arrows" in this case. We all have runs of bad rounds in our games of choice, but talent and skill doesn't just vanish overnight. You don't just suddenly forget how to play the game, or unlearn all the tricks and tactics that have been working for you before.

In short: Green Arrows are the reason I really don't like playing team-based games unless I've got a team of friends to roll with. We might not always be the best team on the field, but I can at least count on my friends to be competent and competitive so that we don't just get curb-stomped into an embarrassing defeat.

 

[ohnoitsabear]

You could try playing Least Played mode. Yes, you and your team will be stuck with heroes that you have no idea how to play, but so will your opponents. BAM! Instant level playing field.

Also, if you could try selecting the option where you only play with other people that are solo queuing while you're in solo queue. It means you won't be absolutely crushed because you're playing with a bunch of randoms and the other team is a premade group that plays together regularly.

 

[DoPo]

You could try playing Least Played mode. Yes, you and your team will be stuck with heroes that you have no idea how to play, but so will your opponents. BAM! Instant level playing field.

Nope, tried it. It's basically heroes you haven't got a certain number of games with. And for me at least at least 60% of the heroes were considered "least played" when, in fact, I had ~200-300 games or so and I hadn't played a large portion of the heroes because I already knew them and it was boring. So - no, it's not a level field, since you're not constrained in any way and I wasn't in absolutely no disadvantage, I'd hazard a guess none of the people were either.

OT: I feel your pain. I've been on a pretty bad streak the last few days but it was mostly constrained because I play a couple of games and stop out of frustration. But yeah - my current goals are for my teammates to be less stupid than the other team, as asking for teammates that play well seems like asking to win the lottery.

Something that helps a bit is to play with friends. Well, I play with 2 others so I reduce the chance of stupid in my team by 50% but...that's not always enough. Just yesterday we lost because of the Crystal Maiden who decided she was carry and...managed to feed Naix so bad he had armlet by about minute 12. While laning. And yeah, I saw what cm did - she would just go forward and ulty...while Naix would just press Q and eat her alive. First item after boots (and it was just plain boots) was Aghanim's Sceptre. Classy. I don't think she ever managed to finish it, the other team beat us too hard.

 

[Steephill]

Just play Huskar or Spirit Breaker. Or take mid and dominate as Qop, SS, Puck, Luna etc. Huskar mid is your most sure bet though. Just make sure you go Phase, Ghost Scepter then Aghs. Building from there an AC or Heart, whatever you feel you need.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Thanks for the feedback/sympathy, guys, I do appreciate it. Kasp looked over one of my MANY losses and gave me some pointers, although it appears herp-a-derp teammates were the primary culprit.

To answer a couple of things that have come up...

1. I've only ever played Single Draft. I do like the mildly random element and being pressured into trying new heroes from time to time, whilst still having the ability to avoid a particularly hated or confusing pick.

2. Lately I'm taking supports 75% of the time, because the rest of the team is going crazy for carries and someone has to buy the bloody wards. Occasionally I'll get annoyed and take a favorite semi-carry or ganker instead, but I only very rarely get to play carries.

3. I've been on solo queue a long time now, and for the entirety of this losing streak. Enemy teams still feel INSANELY coordinated sometimes, but that is most likely just coincidence.

4. I don't doubt that all the losing is affecting my performance. I'm getting kind of neurotic and second guessing things constantly. It's hard not to snap into "WELP IT'S ANOTHER LOSS" mode when your team gives up first blood 10 seconds after the creep waves meet, or your carry tower dives with 25% health, or when you're playing Engima and suddenly Omni-Knight is jungling, etc, etc, etc. And believe me, I ain't no superstar either. I borderline fed as Lich the other night because I kept overestimating the range on his little frost doohickey and blundering out of position.

5. I only have one friend who plays DOTA, and he hasn't played for quite some time, and he's REALLY bad at it. I still enjoy playing with him, because hey...he's my good friend...but that definitely won't help matters. I'd probably just rub my curse off on him.

 

[Kanova]

I have noticed the matchmaking get a LOT WORSE after they opened to public. Like, a fucking lot worse. I was at a +28 or something, and ever since then it is like me and my buddy are facing people a whole bracket above us, almost every game.

It used to be the average was a close game, could lose, could win. Now average is a humiliating butt devastation, rape and pumped full of jizz. I figure we are pretty good, we had around 3000 games in League and came over to Dota a while ago, maybe 300 or so games now. But just looking at the games, it is like we are paired with fucking chimps, and the other team is the smurfs of Alliance.

I blame the new matchmaking. Also, spot checks. Yeah, I don't think they are very random.

 

[prpshrt]

Here's what happened to me. I lost 30 games in a row. Prolly had like 3 MAYBE 4 wins scattered between that. I was about ready to give up. All of a sudden, I won 30+ games in a row too. With the occasional loss in between and I'm slightly above my losses. While the match making is fair, you can get REALLY unlucky at times with your team. It may also be a slump. No offense to you, but a friend of mine is thoroughly convinced the MM is broken. It isn't. He has a slump and he's just TERRIBLE off late in game. But give it a while, you'll get through. Play another game to blow off steam too.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Here's what happened to me. I lost 30 games in a row. Prolly had like 3 MAYBE 4 wins scattered between that. I was about ready to give up. All of a sudden, I won 30+ games in a row too. With the occasional loss in between and I'm slightly above my losses. While the match making is fair, you can get REALLY unlucky at times with your team. It may also be a slump. No offense to you, but a friend of mine is thoroughly convinced the MM is broken. It isn't. He has a slump and he's just TERRIBLE off late in game. But give it a while, you'll get through. Play another game to blow off steam too.

Man if I get a 30 game win streak out of this I will be STOKED. I'm expecting a 3 game win streak followed by another 27 losses.

I don't think the MM is broken. But I do think it's whimsical and overly streaky. SC2...I could never streak more than 2-3 games in any given direction without a reversal, and I was almost RIGIDLY at 50/50, even when I crawled up into a league I realistically had no business being in (Diamond). DOTA, it's just these HUGE streaks that go on forever. The long winning streaks (albeit, I've never had one longer than 7-8) just make me nervous because I know the inevitable backswing is coming, and the long losing streaks are demoralizing as hell.

 

[prpshrt]

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Man if I get a 30 game win streak out of this I will be STOKED. I'm expecting a 3 game win streak followed by another 27 losses.

I don't think the MM is broken. But I do think it's whimsical and overly streaky. SC2...I could never streak more than 2-3 games in any given direction without a reversal, and I was almost RIGIDLY at 50/50, even when I crawled up into a league I realistically had no business being in (Diamond). DOTA, it's just these HUGE streaks that go on forever. The long winning streaks (albeit, I've never had one longer than 7-8) just make me nervous because I know the inevitable backswing is coming, and the long losing streaks are demoralizing as hell.

Look for an online team to join. Like you can go in saying you want to seriously be part of it but you don't need to be. I did that so I could find people to game with. 5 stack teams are awesome because everyone understands their role. I love playing carry but when I play 5 man dota, I become a support ***** and still have a lot of fun too. I think the team I joined was called Orbit or something. Found some good players there.

 

[Sigmund Av Volsung]

DoTA is a cruel and fickle mistress.

Just remember that even the best players have loss streaks(at some point or other), and just play another game if it is really bothering you: never only play DoTA or a MOBA, as it makes losing even worse since you can't forget it as easily.