Lulzsec resleases xbox live user info

[Jonabob87]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

whats your problem with valve?

He never bothers telling us. All I've ever got out of him is "digital distribution is the enemy, Valve runs the biggest digital distribution service, thus Valve is the enemy".

I still don't know why he hates digital distribution, especially since I think I remember him saying he's a PC gamer...

I've explained it countless times. You just don't listen.
I hate having to repeat myself, go look through my posts until you find it. My posts should be treated as gospel and memorized by everyone anyway.
And I'm a Reformed PC gamer. It just stopped being worth it, and I've never looked back.

I HAVE gone through your posts.

You've NEVER explained it.

"Digital distribution is evil" is NOT an explanation. It's a statement.

"I prefer hard copies" is NOT an explanation for "Digital distribution is evil".

Some gospel.

I'll explain with my own opinion. Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account. They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy. Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Granted I'm mostly speaking of steam here, but most other forms of digital distribution are exactly the same.

Let me break this down...

Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account.

A rental service that sees you downloading the full game to your PC and giving you the ability to play it offline hence making the game yours virtually forever. Rental my arse.

They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy.

What a load of nonsense. How would they police such a policy? Would they expect you to e-mail and tell them your little sister played a game on your account so they could ban you? Ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Yeah DAMN that MAMMOTH 1.5mb program. That's just too big! I'll say again, you DO own the game. Your argument here would work for OnLive, not for Steam.

Though you can't change my opinion, I would also like to add to that list people who don't have internet, and before you say anything. I know people without internet or really slow internet. People who DON'T have it may want to play that knew retail game they thought they could play only to find out it's impossible because it requires the internet to download.

Steam is bad because some people don't have the internet? I guess that means Bluray sucks because I don't have a bluray player.

 

[Mavinchious Maximus]

Is it wrong for me to pray that these hackers get raped and murdered by dolphins for the LULZ?

 

[Grey Walker]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

whats your problem with valve?

He never bothers telling us. All I've ever got out of him is "digital distribution is the enemy, Valve runs the biggest digital distribution service, thus Valve is the enemy".

I still don't know why he hates digital distribution, especially since I think I remember him saying he's a PC gamer...

I've explained it countless times. You just don't listen.
I hate having to repeat myself, go look through my posts until you find it. My posts should be treated as gospel and memorized by everyone anyway.
And I'm a Reformed PC gamer. It just stopped being worth it, and I've never looked back.

I HAVE gone through your posts.

You've NEVER explained it.

"Digital distribution is evil" is NOT an explanation. It's a statement.

"I prefer hard copies" is NOT an explanation for "Digital distribution is evil".

Some gospel.

I'll explain with my own opinion. Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account. They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy. Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Granted I'm mostly speaking of steam here, but most other forms of digital distribution are exactly the same.

He still hasn't given me his, but as a gamer in a very non-gaming family, I'm unaffected by your main argument. Sorry if you got banned, though.

No I didn't get banned, that's just my stance on the whole thing. Though his argument may not be the same I thought I would at least give an opinion on the matter.

The number of games that require online activation today makes them nearly as flimsy as digital downloads, but I can understand your concern and desire for a physical copy.

I actually prefer physical copies myself, but for many games I love that isn't possible (Amnesia, Audiosurf, Magicka, Mount and Blade, etc.) and Steam has done very well by me, beating out the DRM I had to deal with with SPORE, despite having a physical copy (I know that's some of the worst DRM out there, but my point stands that physical is not exempt from jerk distributors.)

Now digital copies are also immune to the wear and tear of everyday life (which shouldn't be a problem if people would look after disks) and they allow for older games that aren't more accessible as well as games that can't get disks out to be sold to a wider audience without having to comb Ebay for a rare overpriced set of floppy disks/CDs)

Now (hope I don't incur mod wrath for this) if DRM is a large concern, first purchase the game in your desire medium, then pirate the bloody thing and burn it to a blank disk. You still bought it so they can't complain you cost them a sale, plus you don't have to worry about it potentially being taken away from DRM (multiplayer will be an issue, though).

So while you may not like digital distribution, it isn't a terrible thing and has done a lot of good for the games industry, particularly PC games.

EDIT: And what's stopping you from sharing your account information with your family or having a shared account? SteamGuard allows for access on multiple machines provided the account owner wants it, and it is possible to play games on the same account on different computers simultaneously, provided you're okay with one being offline.

 

[Stormz]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

whats your problem with valve?

He never bothers telling us. All I've ever got out of him is "digital distribution is the enemy, Valve runs the biggest digital distribution service, thus Valve is the enemy".

I still don't know why he hates digital distribution, especially since I think I remember him saying he's a PC gamer...

I've explained it countless times. You just don't listen.
I hate having to repeat myself, go look through my posts until you find it. My posts should be treated as gospel and memorized by everyone anyway.
And I'm a Reformed PC gamer. It just stopped being worth it, and I've never looked back.

I HAVE gone through your posts.

You've NEVER explained it.

"Digital distribution is evil" is NOT an explanation. It's a statement.

"I prefer hard copies" is NOT an explanation for "Digital distribution is evil".

Some gospel.

I'll explain with my own opinion. Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account. They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy. Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Granted I'm mostly speaking of steam here, but most other forms of digital distribution are exactly the same.

Let me break this down...

Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account.

A rental service that sees you downloading the full game to your PC and giving you the ability to play it offline hence making the game yours virtually forever. Rental my arse.

They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy.

What a load of nonsense. How would they police such a policy? Would they expect you to e-mail and tell them your little sister played a game on your account so they could ban you? Ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Yeah DAMN that MAMMOTH 1.5mb program. That's just too big! I'll say again, you DO own the game. Your argument here would work for OnLive, not for Steam.

Though you can't change my opinion, I would also like to add to that list people who don't have internet, and before you say anything. I know people without internet or really slow internet. People who DON'T have it may want to play that knew retail game they thought they could play only to find out it's impossible because it requires the internet to download.

Steam is bad because some people don't have the internet? I guess that means Bluray sucks because I don't have a bluray player.

Bluray movies also come in dvd form so that doesn't even work. With steam you don't get a choice to just use the old cd key method.

 

[JET1971]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

Yes, what needs to happen is a company who has very good relations with its customers needs its data stolen, and their customers and employees fucked with, because they are quite clearly the most heinous bunch around. All that free DLC and all those sales and all those free services!

VALVE YOU FUCKING SCUM!

For the love of Pete! At what point does Twitter shut down their feed anyway? For the record i sent them a message asking them that and haven't heard anything.

Yeah, that bit is just a tad bizarre. Probably worried about shit happening to them, but it should be taken off already.

Ask the FBI why they have Twitter keep the acount up. As long as the account is up and running then the FBI has 1 more way of monitoring them as well as LulSec logs into Twitter and they trace them there hoping for a mistake.

 

[commodore96]

For the love of Pete! At what point does Twitter shut down their feed anyway? For the record i sent them a message asking them that and haven't heard anything.

I think Twitter realizes if they do that they will get boned pretty hard from hackers

 

[Assassin Xaero]

didn't see this posted, so:

http://lulzsecurity.com/releases/62000_random_logins.txt

Go on there, CTRL+F, search your e-mail. if it turns up, change your password. if it doesn't, your account details were not announced.

thanks for that list it shows im safe

I can't say I really feel sorry for them. Yeah it's bad, but on the other hand, and ton of xbox players were complete douchebags when PSN was hacked, so guess its karma...

hey as an owner of both systems i have to say this is very unfunny sure i had a few smug comments to some of my exclusive ps3 friends but this just sucks all around

Exactly my point. All the xbox players thought it was funny and were making smug comments, but now that it happens to them it is an actual problem? Some of them deserve it.

 

[Grey Walker]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

Yes, what needs to happen is a company who has very good relations with its customers needs its data stolen, and their customers and employees fucked with, because they are quite clearly the most heinous bunch around. All that free DLC and all those sales and all those free services!

VALVE YOU FUCKING SCUM!

For the love of Pete! At what point does Twitter shut down their feed anyway? For the record i sent them a message asking them that and haven't heard anything.

Yeah, that bit is just a tad bizarre. Probably worried about shit happening to them, but it should be taken off already.

Ask the FBI why they have Twitter keep the acount up. As long as the account is up and running then the FBI has 1 more way of monitoring them as well as LulSec logs into Twitter and they trace them there hoping for a mistake.

And chances are Twitter thinks that they'll be next of the hacking block if they do anything to the LulzSec feed.

 

[etherlance]

Oh for fucks sake will someone PLEASE Trace these guys so they can be arrested or something.

Or better yet:

Ever person who has had their information tampered with by these guys, gets to give them a swift kick to the balls!


P.S.

As you read this I am in the process of removing my bank details from my x box account, you all should do the same.

 

[teutonicman]

Well I guess it's time for me to remove my credit card info.....

 

[Lord Kloo]

Im wondering why they attack mostly gaming based systems and haven't gone all out and started hacking NORAD or trying to steal nuclear codes.. :/

OT: This is getting a bit beyond ridiculous now.. I demand someone of greater power in hacking and less interest in the lulz to step in a squash these little things.. Or I demand that someone from authority puts a very large sentence over their heads..

 

[TheMagicLemur]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

whats your problem with valve?

He never bothers telling us. All I've ever got out of him is "digital distribution is the enemy, Valve runs the biggest digital distribution service, thus Valve is the enemy".

I still don't know why he hates digital distribution, especially since I think I remember him saying he's a PC gamer...

I've explained it countless times. You just don't listen.
I hate having to repeat myself, go look through my posts until you find it. My posts should be treated as gospel and memorized by everyone anyway.
And I'm a Reformed PC gamer. It just stopped being worth it, and I've never looked back.

I HAVE gone through your posts.

You've NEVER explained it.

"Digital distribution is evil" is NOT an explanation. It's a statement.

"I prefer hard copies" is NOT an explanation for "Digital distribution is evil".

Some gospel.

I'll explain with my own opinion. Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account. They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy. Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Granted I'm mostly speaking of steam here, but most other forms of digital distribution are exactly the same.

Let me break this down...

Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account.

A rental service that sees you downloading the full game to your PC and giving you the ability to play it offline hence making the game yours virtually forever. Rental my arse.

They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy.

What a load of nonsense. How would they police such a policy? Would they expect you to e-mail and tell them your little sister played a game on your account so they could ban you? Ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Yeah DAMN that MAMMOTH 1.5mb program. That's just too big! I'll say again, you DO own the game. Your argument here would work for OnLive, not for Steam.

Though you can't change my opinion, I would also like to add to that list people who don't have internet, and before you say anything. I know people without internet or really slow internet. People who DON'T have it may want to play that knew retail game they thought they could play only to find out it's impossible because it requires the internet to download.

Steam is bad because some people don't have the internet? I guess that means Bluray sucks because I don't have a bluray player.

Bluray movies also come in dvd form so that doesn't even work. With steam you don't get a choice to just use the old cd key method.

There are plenty of digitally distributed games that you can buy in physical form too so actually, yes, the analogy holds pretty well.

 

[Tim_Buoy]

didn't see this posted, so:

http://lulzsecurity.com/releases/62000_random_logins.txt

Go on there, CTRL+F, search your e-mail. if it turns up, change your password. if it doesn't, your account details were not announced.

thanks for that list it shows im safe

I can't say I really feel sorry for them. Yeah it's bad, but on the other hand, and ton of xbox players were complete douchebags when PSN was hacked, so guess its karma...

hey as an owner of both systems i have to say this is very unfunny sure i had a few smug comments to some of my exclusive ps3 friends but this just sucks all around

Exactly my point. All the xbox players thought it was funny and were making smug comments, but now that it happens to them it is an actual problem? Some of them deserve it.

no one deserves this is what i was trying to say

 

[Polaris19]

I swear, if I was able to, I would just shut the whole damn internet down. This is getting ridiculous and I'm at the point where I'm just going to cancel all my subscriptions, sell my computers and cancel my internet service. I'm that sick of it.

I come on the internet and games to get away from life, now these sons of bitches at LulzSec have decided to ruin it because they want to laugh. Pretty sick sense of humor if you ask me.

 

[Stormz]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

whats your problem with valve?

He never bothers telling us. All I've ever got out of him is "digital distribution is the enemy, Valve runs the biggest digital distribution service, thus Valve is the enemy".

I still don't know why he hates digital distribution, especially since I think I remember him saying he's a PC gamer...

I've explained it countless times. You just don't listen.
I hate having to repeat myself, go look through my posts until you find it. My posts should be treated as gospel and memorized by everyone anyway.
And I'm a Reformed PC gamer. It just stopped being worth it, and I've never looked back.

I HAVE gone through your posts.

You've NEVER explained it.

"Digital distribution is evil" is NOT an explanation. It's a statement.

"I prefer hard copies" is NOT an explanation for "Digital distribution is evil".

Some gospel.

I'll explain with my own opinion. Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account. They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy. Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Granted I'm mostly speaking of steam here, but most other forms of digital distribution are exactly the same.

Let me break this down...

Steam is basically rental service where you get to rent games for 60$ I say rent because it's linked to your account.

A rental service that sees you downloading the full game to your PC and giving you the ability to play it offline hence making the game yours virtually forever. Rental my arse.

They can take away your account for any reason, and guess what, they won't even allow you to share your games with family members or you'll be banned. That's right. They expect your family members to have there own accounts and buy there own games even if you already paid for it. I can understand a little more if it's a friend, but they'll ban you for letting someone in your family play on your account. It's just greedy.

What a load of nonsense. How would they police such a policy? Would they expect you to e-mail and tell them your little sister played a game on your account so they could ban you? Ridiculous.

Not to mention the fact that you have to run steam to play the games in the first place. I don't think everyone enjoys having to have another program taking up space on there computer just so they can play a game they supposedly "own"

Yeah DAMN that MAMMOTH 1.5mb program. That's just too big! I'll say again, you DO own the game. Your argument here would work for OnLive, not for Steam.

Though you can't change my opinion, I would also like to add to that list people who don't have internet, and before you say anything. I know people without internet or really slow internet. People who DON'T have it may want to play that knew retail game they thought they could play only to find out it's impossible because it requires the internet to download.

Steam is bad because some people don't have the internet? I guess that means Bluray sucks because I don't have a bluray player.

Bluray movies also come in dvd form so that doesn't even work. With steam you don't get a choice to just use the old cd key method.

There are plenty of digitally distributed games that you can buy in physical form too so actually, yes, the analogy holds pretty well.

Yeah older games, almost all newer ones are forced.

 

[AnAngryMoose]

If someone has fucked with my Gamertag then I will personally kneecap LulzSec.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

...WHEN. WILL. THEY. STOP.
Seriously. It was ridiculous weeks ago.

 

[Souplex]

Well I guess this means Steam'll be next on their list, they've hit all the console devs.

Hopefully they actually do something to Valve instead of getting their info just to prove they can.
Valve needs to be taken down several pegs, then have sharp pegs driven through them.

whats your problem with valve?

He never bothers telling us. All I've ever got out of him is "digital distribution is the enemy, Valve runs the biggest digital distribution service, thus Valve is the enemy".

I still don't know why he hates digital distribution, especially since I think I remember him saying he's a PC gamer...

I've explained it countless times. You just don't listen.
I hate having to repeat myself, go look through my posts until you find it. My posts should be treated as gospel and memorized by everyone anyway.
And I'm a Reformed PC gamer. It just stopped being worth it, and I've never looked back.

I HAVE gone through your posts.

You've NEVER explained it.

"Digital distribution is evil" is NOT an explanation. It's a statement.

"I prefer hard copies" is NOT an explanation for "Digital distribution is evil".

Some gospel.

Clearly you haven't.

 

[9thRequiem]

http://www.vgrevolution.com/2011/06/xbox-live-was-not-hacked-by-lulzsec-not-directly/

That's good to know, thanks.

Personally, I don't use the same pw for multiple places, but most people do. That's the only way they could have got into any xbox accounts ...

 

[Sinclair Solutions]

Well, I'm not on the list, which is nice, I guess. But my heart sinks a little bit more every time I hear about these guys. Generally, they are just ruining people's lives. My sympathies for anyone who has already been screwed over by these guys.

On a more personal/selfish note, I just am afraid that sooner or later they are going to hack something with my credit card info.

I really hope someone does something about them. It's just not fair to the masses that these guys are doing whatever the fuck they want.