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Kaptin Krunch

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Do you think it's bad?

I realized something recently, I lie. A lot. I lie about anything and everything if it will result in something good happening to me. From tiny inconsequential lies to huge over arcing lies that would blow up in my face if the person found out.

I'll lie without even planning too, I can be having a conversation and if I see an opening to bullshit someone and have something good come my way the lies just kinda flow out of me. Now I know lying is supposed to be bad and you're 'supposed' to feel bad for it. I used to think that, or at least I think I did. Maybe i'm just a self serving asshole but if that's what I am it's all good because you gotta look out for number one!

So what are your thoughts when it comes to lying? To be honest sometimes I impress myself with the stuff I come up with when i'm on a roll and the bullshit is flowing.
 

Kaptin Krunch

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I'm really good at reading people and saying what they want to hear, some of the things ive gotten away with through piling lies on top of lies astounds me. On the come back to bite you part I actually enjoy when that happens, it gives me a rush of sorts to just let the words flow out and to get away with it by bullshitting.

All this probably makes me sound like a douche but I do have morals, they're just my morals.
 

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Kaptin Krunch said:
I used to think that, or at least I think I did. Maybe i'm just a self serving asshole but if that's what I am it's all good because you gotta look out for number one!
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it is bad..and thats just an excuse, I treat others decently because I would want that...pretty simple

I'm a terrible Liar so I can't go above the simple white lie
 

Kaptin Krunch

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I care about very few people in my life, but the people I do care about I care about immensely. The few people who I truly care about are the only people I won't lie to, at least about nothing bad. A well told white lie never hurt anyone.

But when it comes to people I don't care about, I couldn't give a flying fuck how my actions effect them as long as i'm the better for it. Unfortunately most of the people who call me a friend fall under this category.

When it comes to my other 'friends' I have a tendency to manipulate and lie my way into and out of their lives and move onto other people. But because of how good i've gotten at lying I have a large circle of people who consider me a good friend. The bad thing is that I always have to be on my toes when i'm with those people so that I remember the lies i've told and can look for an opportunity to spin a few more lies and have something good happen.

I think a switch in my head was flipped off at some point in my life because I feel no guilt for a lot of shit I know I should but just... dont.
 

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Kaptin Krunch said:
I care about very few people in my life, but the people I do care about I care about immensely. The few people who I truly care about are the only people I won't lie to, at least about nothing bad. A well told white lie never hurt anyone.

I think a switch in my head was flipped off at some point in my life because I feel no guilt for a lot of shit I know I should but just... dont.
well its not like I can "make" somone have empathy

just imagine though if through lying you were to seriously hurt one of those people do do aparently care for

if your capable of caring at all.....strangers arent all that far away from entering our "sphere" of people we know, its all up to chance and circumstance
 

Valanthe

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Any time I think about the lies I've told, it makes me wonder just how honest other people have been with me. I've spun some pretty big tales that everyone believed without a second thought, and then I've recalled stories of things that actually happened, and no one believes me. Working in sales as I do especially, I lie like a carpet. I don't think of myself as an aggressive salesman, but I'll admit (out of earshot of my customers) that I'll say just about anything to build a conversation with a customer. I rationalize it with the knowledge that it does help both of us, as the longer I can keep a conversation with a customer, the more sure I am that I am selling them what they need, and the more likely they are to buy it. At the end of the day though, I am still spinning tales for my own benefit.

Exceptions that I won't cross are that I won't promise something I can't deliver on, and I'll not lie about a product itself, if something is crap or not worth the money, I'm the first to say it, but if I do like it, I'll use anything from "I know a guy who has one and he loves it," to the more direct, "I use mine all the time." whether or not I actually own the product in question.

The only time this bothers me, oddly enough, is when I do it without even thinking. I will just blurt out a story that is one hundred percent false, without even skipping a breath, I guess that makes me a bit of a jerk...
 

Keoul

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I lie quite often.
Usually it's a joke and I tell em the truth after, if it's a serious matter however I almost never lie, should it come to it I just don't say anything.
 

Guffe

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I avoid lying, I'd say if I want to lie I am pretty good at it, but I just bullshit people in meaningless things and usually they can read it of me. But I avoid lying since when it's found out it usually results ina shitstorm, and nothing good ever comes out of a shitstorm.
 

Ieyke

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Kaptin Krunch said:
Do you think it's bad?

I realized something recently, I lie. A lot. I lie about anything and everything if it will result in something good happening to me. From tiny inconsequential lies to huge over arcing lies that would blow up in my face if the person found out.

I'll lie without even planning too, I can be having a conversation and if I see an opening to bullshit someone and have something good come my way the lies just kinda flow out of me. Now I know lying is supposed to be bad and you're 'supposed' to feel bad for it. I used to think that, or at least I think I did. Maybe i'm just a self serving asshole but if that's what I am it's all good because you gotta look out for number one!

So what are your thoughts when it comes to lying? To be honest sometimes I impress myself with the stuff I come up with when i'm on a roll and the bullshit is flowing.
I'm easily capable of fantastic and glorious lies that no one can sort out, and that's a power I used to regularly use up until 8 years ago. Since then, my....identity?...has been almost completely rewritten, and I've become almost unfailingly truthful and instinctively honest. Now I pretty much only lie to spare someone's feelings over essentially inconsequential things that I know would otherwise drive them crazy, or for damage control purposes when something goes wrong and I need an excuse with more gravitas to smooth it over (maintaining the idea that I still have my job handling high-powered radiation [in reality I quit a year ago] and I got stuck at work makes for a much more forgiving reason as to why you'd show up to class late, than "I was helping a friend move something heavy and lost track of time").
I guess you could say I'm 99% honest, but that 1% goes all the way up to a level that involves national security... XD

Conversely, my life is full of actual complete truths that are so bizarre and far-fetched sounding that people have a pretty damn hard time believing them a lot of the time. E.g., I'm a ninja and a priest....and agnostic. And I get interviewed by the FBI.....an awful lot more than the average person....
 

ClockworkPenguin

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I lie all the time, but not really to deceive. Mostly just to troll my friends, stuff like 'Yeah traffic lights totally have laser sensors and make you wait longer if you're in an SUV' that sort of thing.

I also embellish my stories a lot to make it seem like I lead an interesting life, when I really don't. I don't really count that as lying though.

I can't really tell an outright lie to someone's face though, I just find it difficult.
 

JayRPG

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Everybody lies and I mean everybody.

Having devoted a large chunk of my life to studying deception and lieing in psychology it fascinates me how some people go absolutely crazy when they find out they were lied to.

The same people that get so angry at lies will infact lie themselves several times a day, the average person lies 20 times a day, whether that be little white lies or big bullshit stories.

I don't know if some people just want to ignore the fact that everybody lies so they can be more trusting or if it's just some delusional thing.

I don't trust the word of anybody, I wouldn't trust the word of a devout priest, hell, if jesus himself (if he existed) appeared before me and told me he was jesus I wouldn't trust him.

Some call me synical, I call myself a realist.

The worst part about it all though is how do you know I have not lied about everything in this post?
 

Eclipse Dragon

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I'll tell a white lie to avoid hurting other people's feelings, and even then,
it depends on the situation because I don't like to give false hope either.

More often I'll tell half truths rather than complete lies.
 

BeerTent

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More and more of my job has me telling lies. And, while I'm not a fan of it, I understand the reason as to why. Aside, when you currently work on phones, you can't really talk to people. Just "handle" them. Yeah, they push back sometimes, and some people put me in a corner. (A fuckload easier to do now that I work for a different project, where I lack all the knowledge and tools to do my job.) but, at the end of it, ya do what you gotta do.

I don't like to lie in a personal setting. I've been reminded of the empathy song from Adventure time. :3
 

The Funslinger

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I had a friend of mine convinced I was a Time Lord for an entire year.

Take from that what you will.
 

Sonicron

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Sometimes lies can be useful tools, and there are situations when lying is simply the humane thing to do; however, I don't like lying, and I've learned that usually honesty gets you a lot farther in life. And with lies there's almost always a price to be paid in the end.
Bottom line, whether or not lying is bad really depends on the context. I have no qualms resorting to it when the situation calls for it, and I certainly won't dispute every person's right to secrets, but if I deem the truth at all bearable I tend to prefer it over falsehoods.
 

Blood Brain Barrier

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Kaptin Krunch said:
Maybe i'm just a self serving asshole but if that's what I am it's all good because you gotta look out for number one!
Whether you lie or don't lie, all you are doing is looking out for number one. Unless you think that following scriptures you worship in order to get into heaven.... or telling the truth in order to improve someone's opinion of you.... or simply doing it to feel better about yourself..... are all somehow not selfish acts.
 

game-lover

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It's bad. Plain and simple. Granted sometimes it's necessary.

Sounds like you're a compulsive liar.

From an ethics standpoint, you'll never have proper trust towards you. Statistically, many of the lies you told will be discovered. From that point on, the person you lied to will lose trust in you. And so on.

From a more technical standpoint, the more you lie, the more bullshit that you have to keep track of. How often have some of your lies been ones that you told to hide or make other lies more believable? To throw someone off your trail?

One can imagine it'll end up pretty overwhelming one day.
 

Combustion Kevin

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for one, I don't want to lie, I find the truth more useful.

secondly, I'm terrible at lying, so I couldn't in the first place.