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StBishop

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Kaptin Krunch said:
Do you think it's bad?

I realized something recently, I lie. A lot. I lie about anything and everything if it will result in something good happening to me. From tiny inconsequential lies to huge over arcing lies that would blow up in my face if the person found out.

I'll lie without even planning too, I can be having a conversation and if I see an opening to bullshit someone and have something good come my way the lies just kinda flow out of me. Now I know lying is supposed to be bad and you're 'supposed' to feel bad for it. I used to think that, or at least I think I did. Maybe i'm just a self serving asshole but if that's what I am it's all good because you gotta look out for number one!

So what are your thoughts when it comes to lying? To be honest sometimes I impress myself with the stuff I come up with when i'm on a roll and the bullshit is flowing.
Without being a massive douche, you're probably a child. Either that or you may have a real problem.

Lying is inherently bad. Dishonesty (which is things like omission of important features or misleading someone without lying) is bad.

I really hope you get caught out on some huge lie(s) and learn your lesson, fear may be the only thing to stop you lying, even if it doesn't make you an honest person, at least you'll act like one.

Only time I lie is to people I don't know about things which don't matter, eg. "Where are you going?" I'll just simplify and say "Work/Uni/Home" if it's some convoluted answer and I don't feel like explaining to some person on the bus.
 

barbzilla

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Kaptin Krunch said:
Do you think it's bad?

I realized something recently, I lie. A lot. I lie about anything and everything if it will result in something good happening to me. From tiny inconsequential lies to huge over arcing lies that would blow up in my face if the person found out.

I'll lie without even planning too, I can be having a conversation and if I see an opening to bullshit someone and have something good come my way the lies just kinda flow out of me. Now I know lying is supposed to be bad and you're 'supposed' to feel bad for it. I used to think that, or at least I think I did. Maybe i'm just a self serving asshole but if that's what I am it's all good because you gotta look out for number one!

So what are your thoughts when it comes to lying? To be honest sometimes I impress myself with the stuff I come up with when i'm on a roll and the bullshit is flowing.
Careful with that. That is exactly how I started out lying. I eventually got so good at lying that I would create memories about the event in my head (I'm guessing from repeated telling of the lie my imagination would kick in to create the event in my head). It got so bad after a while I couldn't remember what was true and what was a lie, it became very confusing for me. Eventually I had to quit. I still tell lies, but only for entertainment or work purposes now.
 

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I love how people act like they are these lying badasses, iot's not that hard to lie, that's why it's so atractive! Of course there are some peopel who are bad at it, but the vast majority of people know how to lie reasonably well.

As for myself, I try not to lie, it's a bad habit to do it impulsively. Can't say that I never do it.
 

Peithelo

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I value absolute honesty greatly and actively seek to express myself without resorting to any intentional lies. There are only very few instances where I would even consider intentionally lying to someone about something; when someone elses life or well-being is directly being threatened. Still, even before resorting to lying I would try my hardest to get out of the situtation or resolve it by some other means. These sort of instances usually derive from cultular and societal issues which may have to be resolved before complete honesty can be practiced. For example, I wouldn't have straight out revealed that Anne Frank was hiding in as secret room behind a bookshelf, but I would've still avoided lying if at all plausible.

In more ordinary situations I would never lie intentionally because I see lying as a real problem and always disrespectful towards youself and others. While I would try to deliver hard news as gently as I could I would not lie for anyone just to make things 'easier' for them. I always assume someone is mentally capable of handling me being completely honest with them. It should be noted that being honest in itself has nothing to do with being rude.

Being completely honest (if need be, in an understanding and sympathetic way) is hardly ever the actual cause of harm. Being honest and telling the truth may result in a fight, for example, but it itself is not the cause of the strife. It may act as a catalyst for some discomfort, but there is always some other underlying issue causing the very situation.

Sarcasm is also something that I avoid as I see it as a pararrel to lying. Using sarcasm may not techically be telling a lie, but you would still be expressing yourself in an indirect and often mocking way.

I do not like being lied to. I know other people do lie to themselves, to eachother and to me in a daily basis. I can even theoretically grasp why this is, but what I cannot understand is why lying is considered to be necessary or even, at times, an acceptable or preferable part of our culture. Lying is something we really should look into making as obsolete as possible.

I'm not saying that I truly am always honest. Surely there are times when I tell a lie without completely being aware of it consciously myself, but I will always correct myself If I catch myself ever telling a lie. At the very least I consciously try to avoid lying - as should we all.
 

CrimsonBlaze

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I try not to lie at all. It's difficult because there is a lot of truth that I don't like to hammer down on people (especially if some of those people just don't take heed of the truth). When I'm straight with people, I'm straight. When I need to lie, I do it without a lot of collateral. I do sometimes give small portions of the truth, instead of the whole truth, to avoid lying and still giving people an answer.
 

axlryder

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I lie more than I would like to admit. Personally, I consider it wrong more as a general breach of trust and when trying to cover up self-serving action. I don't really have a problem with lying if I'm doing it for selfless reasons though. I also tend to lie if it gets me out of a bad situation that I didn't even deserve to be in. For example: my mother is a worrywart. She just is. She also calls me quite often to see how I'm doing. If I'm in a situation that she would worry over, but isn't really worth the stress, I'll just lie. She's too old to be worrying about pointless things, and I know it puts her mind at ease when she hears that I'm "safe and sound". Obviously if I'm truly in a dangerous situation, I would tell her or wouldn't pick up the phone, as it would be that much worse if something bad DID happen to me and she thought she could have done something if I hadn't lied.

Another example, the other day a cop pulled me over for "not stopping long enough at a stop sign", even though I'd definitely done a complete stop and checked for cars before proceeding. So I told him I was just very scared and confused because I had just gotten back from some cancer screenings and I thought I might have had cancer. Well it shut him up and he let me go. Anyway, those are situations where I don't feel bad about lying.
 

Eggsnham

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I used to lie all the time, however it was always so obvious that nobody really gave a shit about it.

It's kinda funny though, I'm pretty good at not being obvious in terms of body language, facial expressions, voice inflections, etc. But I used to just lie about the stupidest shit.

Granted, I was between the ages of about 7-10 when I did that sort of thing.

Nowadays I still lie occasionally, though it's typically only about little things that couldn't possibly have any sort of consequence.

Otherwise, I try to keep myself honest, as honesty has a way of getting one further ahead in the long run.

That said, I have a bit of a dry sense of humor, so occasionally I'll make a joke about something utterly ridiculous, but people will take me seriously and think that I'm either...

A.) Insane.

or...

B.) A pathological liar.
 

Jakub324

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I'm afraid I do. A lot. I don't lie to get things, I don't tell them unless there's serious shit coming my way, I don't do it if there's even a small chance it'll bit me on the arse, but if it'll keep everyone happy and nobody comes to any kind of harm... I'll do what I have to.
 

AngloDoom

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Lying is a tool - a versatile tool that can save your life ("of course you're the most attractive woman I've ever been with!") or it can be used for great evils ("Of course I looked over the finances!")

Ultimately, I feel terrible for lying because I get stressed having to keep up the ruse. My sister has always remembered everything I've ever said and will point out the moment I'm inconsistent - so I've gotten quite good at lying at the cost that it stresses me out.

Of course, I sometimes feel the temptation to lie to protect people's feelings but this means that I'll lie most often to people who I'm in a relationship with and that just about makes me panic-stricken; especially when it's about something sensitive to that person.
 

an annoyed writer

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Lying. Oh Lying.

Where would I be without it? Well, considering my unique background, probably dead. As a transwoman living in a swing state, I've had to lie about many things just to survive school and soforth. Unfortunately, as time will tell, you do something enough it's inevitable that you'll gain some sort of competence at it. So then I became a professional: something even more notable due to my otherwise lacking social skills due to severe Aspergers Syndrome, which I was diagnosed with at the age of five. I'm able to give people what they want to hear, and move them into favorable positions like pawns on a chessboard. And you know what? I'm a horrible person because of it.

I'm tired of existing in a massive web of lies. I'm tired of having to deceive people just to stay on speaking terms with them. I feel like I am a carrier of a plague, a poison. I build bridges with tainted materials. The worst part is it's difficult to stop once you've gone down the path, and eventually, you're going to have to suffer from the crash that will inevitably come.

Why should you people believe me, a compulsive liar? Why should this post be regarded as anything other than a massive deception unto itself? Is it because just this once, I've erected a personal bastion of truth in a place that isn't immediately openly hostile to people who share my origin? Is it because the need simply isn't there? Or am I just deceiving myself? I don't know. It's killing me. Don't lie kids. If you become too good at it, it'll kill you too.
 

RustlessPotato

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Yep. I have lied a lot of times and still continue to do. It's usually to make a not quite interesting story pretty funny or so. It's more of a "bending" of the truth instead of an outright falsehood :D.
 

Oly J

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I generally don't lie, or at least I try not to, I don't remember the last specific time I lied, I can lie convincingly enough if I see fit to do so, I grew up in very unfortunate social circles, there is not one person I know locally who would not climb a tree to lie before standing on the ground to tell the truth, it's always been that way, as a result, I struggle to beleive a damn thing anyone tells me on their word alone, and I have very low opinions of them, the main reason I endevour not to lie, is because I hate being lied to and it seems pathetic when others do it, I will not be one of rhwm