Irony? Do tell. Though granted, better might not have been the right word. More specific, perhaps.Eggo said:I really hope someone else can see the irony here.
No, I knew about that, but here's the thing: Damn near everyone uses Windows. Why would you take the time to write a virus for a system that few of us use? Secondly, the article suggests anti-spyware not to protect against pre-existing viruses, but to help protect against anything that might be made in the future,For someone who says they were born with Safari in their hand, you don't know a lot about Mac OS X.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=2242
Moreover, though it's a good idea to run several antivirus programs, it's not next to mandatory as with the predicament for Windows. And third, you're missing the point of what I was trying to say in my first post....making the whole virus writing process more difficult.
The fact that it has pretty much anything you'd need for editing and artwork pre-installed on the mac (including a built-in camera); that it doesn't freeze nearly as often as Windows (or at all, in my case); the whole business with the viruses; that I can run either OS on a Mac, freeing up entertainment choices; that it runs Microsoft Office (though I use NeoOffice anyway). Just to name a few. Again, however, missing the point.Outside of personal preference, what valid points has Apple's advertising made to you?
You seem to be barking up the wrong tree here. I'm not trying to say which side is better, or who is trying to do what to who. I'm just saying that I like Mac's to-the-point "Look what I can do" style of advertising better than to Microsoft's "We're all PCs" advert. I'm not trying to convert anyone here, and I really wasn't going into superiorities of either side in my first post anyway. Both sides have pros and cons, and it's just a matter of choice. Just because someone doesn't agree on the quality of advertising doesn't mean they're trying to burn down the other side's rose garden.You're not realizing that Microsoft isn't here to try and win the OS competition.
They already have.
*Raises hand* OOH OOH!!! I KNOW!!! PICK ME!!!!Michael_McCloud said:Irony? Do tell. Though granted, better might not have been the right word. More specific, perhaps.Eggo said:I really hope someone else can see the irony here.
Refer to my previous post as to why this is ironic. If you're too lazy to go back and look (like you're maybe too lazy to take time to learn to use a computer) I'll spell it out.Michael_McCloud said:I'm not saying it's not funny, It just doesn't seem to appeal to me in any way. So what if some fisherman in west Timbuktu uses Windows? I want a better reason than "Everybody else is doing it" to side with a company.
*points to the bottom part of previous post, sips tea, ruffles newspaper and walks away*Gxas said:*Raises hand* OOH OOH!!! I KNOW!!! PICK ME!!!!Michael_McCloud said:Irony? Do tell. Though granted, better might not have been the right word. More specific, perhaps.Eggo said:I really hope someone else can see the irony here.
Refer to my previous post as to why this is ironic. If you're too lazy to go back and look (like you're maybe too lazy to take time to learn to use a computer) I'll spell it out.Michael_McCloud said:I'm not saying it's not funny, It just doesn't seem to appeal to me in any way. So what if some fisherman in west Timbuktu uses Windows? I want a better reason than "Everybody else is doing it" to side with a company.
MACS ARE A FAD!!! People (and by people, I mean college kids who have never used one in their lives who bought one as their laptop) only buy Macs because these ads make them cool. The advertisements work extremely well to considering their purpose: To make PCs seem uncool. Macs are 'whats in' right now.
Better?
Do it everytime. The problem is that the end your last post has nothing to do with why Macs aren't a fad and you don't see the irony in your post. I'll quote and address each part of the post I plan on responding to, thank you very much.Michael_McCloud said:Try to, you know, read the entire post before you go blathering on about things, alright? Alright.
Sorry, the camera I have in your house stopped working some time ago so I haven't been able to keep up with your personal life and what you've built for a while now. I'll be sure to update it next time I'm nearby.Michael_McCloud said:, and I'm not lazy enough to not learn how to use a computer. Unless, you know, my scratch-built gaming computer was poofed into existence by fairies.
Looking back I do agree with you there. That would be my bad.Gxas said:Do it everytime. The problem is that the end your last post has nothing to do with why Macs aren't a fad and you don't see the irony in your post. I'll quote and address each part of the post I plan on responding to, thank you very much.
Yes, please do. And be sure watch out for Fluffy, you know how he is about strangers with cameras.Sorry, the camera I have in your house stopped working some time ago so I haven't been able to keep up with your personal life and what you've built for a while now. I'll be sure to update it next time I'm nearby.
^^^ The reason I love the Escapist. Any flame war is resolved over time by people agreeing to disagree. (I still miss you all... RIP Shivari, Juandonde, TaxiDriver...)Michael_McCloud said:Yes, please do. And be sure watch out for Fluffy, you know how he is about strangers with cameras.Gxas said:Sorry, the camera I have in your house stopped working some time ago so I haven't been able to keep up with your personal life and what you've built for a while now. I'll be sure to update it next time I'm nearby.
It's alright, internet folks get so worked up over consoles that sometimes anything sounds like a challenge. I've done the same thing as you.Eggo said:I apologize; I must have misconstrued what you were saying in respect to Microsoft and it's marketing. Although it seems you're misconstruing what Microsoft's advertisements set out to do. You can't fault it (as you initially were) for not doing something Microsoft never intended for it to do anyway.
Yeah, those were just half-assed ripped from the commerials, just to show that Mac makes a show of why you should buy theirs, whether it's actually better or not. I was more focused on the style of the advertising rather than the content anyway, as we've come to realize.Mac OS X comes with very amateur editing and content creation suite that is easily surpassed with freely available software (on both Mac OS X and Windows). Outside of hipster "artists," it really isn't an advantage for the OS X; it's just more bloatware on my studio Mac Pro.
And if Windows is freezing often for you, then you're doing something very wrong. I've built dozens of Vista machines in the last year and...they're all running beautifully. Maybe I'm just really lucky?
Modern Windows machines don't get bogged down by respectable AV software. I wish I could say the same for Mac programs like Digital Performer and even Logic Pro. Why is it that my quad core/4GB Vista computer is far more responsive than my octo-core/16GB Mac Pro?
And the rest isn't really advantages for OS X. Just more reason why Apple can't live without Microsoft.
Gxas said:(RIP Shivari, Juandonde, TaxiDriver...)
Haven't seen her around for months. Maybe I'm just not looking at threads she is though.mydogisblue said:Gxas said:(RIP Shivari, Juandonde, TaxiDriver...)
Shivari? She left the Escapist?
I'm all over it. The one I've seen gets on my nerves, too. I realize it was just a counter to Apple's ads, but Microsoft seems to have taken a "HAHA, I'M POPULAR TOO, SO PROVE ME WRONG" approach. I honestly don't care if Hank the plumber likes PCs better than Macs. How about giving me some facts to go off of?Eggo said:Yeah, let's talk about all the attacks on Apple the Microsoft spin-off advertisements have mounted.
Honestly, that's just what I got out of it. They made it seem like PCs are the best, because a lot of people use them, but of course, I could very possibly be dead wrong.Eggo said:You're completely missing the point of these ads. And the approach isn't "I'm popular too."