Really, it only depends on your ability to operate each computer, and which one you're more familiar with. That is more important, the ability to fix a problem with your computer when it comes up, than any game or software.
Mac vs PC's - Not a poll
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I love it when people say macs are so much better than PCs. That is like saying pickup trucks are so much better than vehicles.
Anyway, major difference is Macs are based off Unix and Windows is based off DOS, most everything else comes down to applications. Windows is more open, so more people go to it and make programs for it instead of for Macs. I never used a Mac and never really care to since I mostly like having my awesome computer with a badass case instead of a white block, and can't forget video games.
Macs seem a lot like Alienwares. Paying a ton more for a name. I went on the alienware site and build basically what was my computer (the graphics card was a bit better on it, but mine has more ram and faster processor) and it was over twice as much as I payed for mine.
Anyway, major difference is Macs are based off Unix and Windows is based off DOS, most everything else comes down to applications. Windows is more open, so more people go to it and make programs for it instead of for Macs. I never used a Mac and never really care to since I mostly like having my awesome computer with a badass case instead of a white block, and can't forget video games.
Macs seem a lot like Alienwares. Paying a ton more for a name. I went on the alienware site and build basically what was my computer (the graphics card was a bit better on it, but mine has more ram and faster processor) and it was over twice as much as I payed for mine.
X360s ARE computers, just forced into a much smaller box with the inevitable heat issues. Also RRoD...PCs don't generally do that one.BJ777 said:
As it stands, netbooks are the spawn of devil and should be burned at the stake, along with iPads and other unholy abominations upon nature...ehm, ignore that, pet hatred there
Thing is, if a PC develops a problem, you can probably fix it with some help from your friend google.Singularly Datarific said:
If a Mac develops a problem, unless you can rock that Nix terminal like a pro, you're screwed. Even if you can, it's 50/50 at best.
Also, horses and cars are both modes of transportation. Just because you've been riding horses your whole life doesn't mean learning to drive is a bad idea. Overall, cars are WAY faster
My key problem with Macs is their seeming ethos to make using them a privilege. I'm not talking about the bullshit elitism from both sides, I'm talking about using the machine and its software. Everything about a Mac and Apple products in general seem designed to be proprietary, frustrating and opaque.Fanta Grape said:
For example, iPods only talks to iTunes, which uses its own sound encoding and hides the sound files in archives. There's no 'drag and drop', there's only 'sync', a process that seems to be unnecessarily round-about and complex when all I want to do is put an album onto a glorified MP3 player. I once spent 30 minutes trying to put a CD onto an iPod, first installing iTunes onto a PC (apparently it won't rip CDs on Windows 7...), then using a Mac Book Pro. I had to log into the iPod owner's iTunes account before I could begin transferring any files to the iPod, but even after I had three tracks were still locked and thus prevented ANY files from being transferred. On top of that, when iTunes ripped the CD it ripped each track as a separate album.
After all that, it still wasn't working, so I ripped the damn CD to the PC using media player (which allowed me to set album information before hand, and ripped the CD as a single album) and transfer the files to a normal phone/MP3 player by dragging and dropping them. Easy, straightforward, works. Took 5 mins.
I know that for some reason people who think of themselves as being more 'creative' or who work in 'creative' professions for some reason prefer Macs, bus as you've pointed out the programs available on both Mac and PC are pretty much the same, and have been, generally speaking, for the last few years. Mac's original superiority of using a graphical user interface whilst PC was, I dunno, using command lines or something, is now completely irrelevant.
I honestly feel that people who buy Macs believing them to be superior products are horrendously mislead and gullible, and completely unable to differentiate style from substance. The amount of stress I suffered trying to use freaking iTunes probably took a few hours off my life, no joke, and that's simply the most recent run-in I've had with Macs.
(Others include: Mac Word not wanting to save in a PC-compatible format, when that's the default for the PC version to save in, Mac-only jpeg files(?!), a Mac-formatted external HD that wouldn't talk to Macs and hid most of its files from PCs, quick-time... hell, quick-time deserves its own special place in hell for the hassle it's put me through, with its crappy encoding, bloated file sizes and lack of support in ANY other player in common usage :/)
So yeah, I'm an unabashed Mac-hater, but I like to feel that I'm justified in my opinion, and that I have evidence and experience backing me up, rather than hyperbole, marketing and fanboyism.
I've used both Mac and PC extensively, and honestly I love both of them.
First though, I have to say I get sick of the "Macs are more secure" bullshit. They really aren't. Macs are not inherently more secure. The reason there are less hackings of Mac is that their primary users are hipster/artist types and college students. Hacking you is not going to be worth the time and effort.
But as for functionality and use, it depends on what you're doing. I usually use a PC. I do basic MS Office stuff, programming, and gaming. I find PCs better suited for the task. My husband usually uses a Mac. He does a lot with Photoshop, Final Cut, After Effects and more artsy stuff (Film student). Macs are just better suited to the task.
Basically:
Macs are great for creative work, such as photo-editing, creating computer artwork, music/sound mixing, film editing, etc.
PCs are better for everyday use, like programming, MS Office, gaming, etc.
Both are just tools, like a hammer and screwdriver. Yeah, I can beat a nail with the handle of a screwdriver, and I can use the claw on a hammer to screw in a nail. But one is better suited for each of those tasks than another. It doesn't mean either one is better overall, just depends on the job you need done.
First though, I have to say I get sick of the "Macs are more secure" bullshit. They really aren't. Macs are not inherently more secure. The reason there are less hackings of Mac is that their primary users are hipster/artist types and college students. Hacking you is not going to be worth the time and effort.
But as for functionality and use, it depends on what you're doing. I usually use a PC. I do basic MS Office stuff, programming, and gaming. I find PCs better suited for the task. My husband usually uses a Mac. He does a lot with Photoshop, Final Cut, After Effects and more artsy stuff (Film student). Macs are just better suited to the task.
Basically:
Macs are great for creative work, such as photo-editing, creating computer artwork, music/sound mixing, film editing, etc.
PCs are better for everyday use, like programming, MS Office, gaming, etc.
Both are just tools, like a hammer and screwdriver. Yeah, I can beat a nail with the handle of a screwdriver, and I can use the claw on a hammer to screw in a nail. But one is better suited for each of those tasks than another. It doesn't mean either one is better overall, just depends on the job you need done.
I've rarely used a Mac so I can't really say. To me they've held little appeal as they didn't play that many games, are expensive, there are fewer programs available, a different UI to the one I'm used to (a minor complaint), and don't really look that nice. You know what? Photoshop and sound and video editing software seem to work just fine on my Windows PC.
For me, it's mostly a matter of interface: I find Windows' interface to be intuitive and work well- allowing you to set your own settings a good portion of the time and create your own directories and have all of your files lined up in nice neat rows like some kind of phalanx. Macs' interface, however, has always given me problems- you'd think a filebar across the top at all times would be helpful, but it just annoys me because it constantly changes per program and even getting past that it takes searching to find whatever you want to do to change settings rather than a simple three-to-four step process of: Control Panel, click relevant icon, click relevant tab, fix problem. On a Mac it keeps things in much harder ways to work and sometimes will think you're done with what you were planning and just close it out because you changed a setting (sure that'll get it done, but what if I wanted to do more than one thing there?). I reserve the bulk of my ire, however, for that annoying launch bar or whatever it is at the bottom. Why is it that clicking on an active program that isn't at the front of your screen bring it to the front? Why does it not even show open windows so if I'm running a couple of windows of an internet browser then I have to drag each around until I find my long lost other one or minus them into the even less useful position of being tiny unlabeled things over in the corner. Windows 7 tried to copy this idea for some god-awful reason, but they got it right by making either clicking on the icon bring up the only available image or showing you all extant windows and allowing you to preview them by running your mouse over them and, thusly, in quick succession finding what you were looking for.
Well, that's well enough ranting and probably all points other people have made anyways, but I'm just instinctively get a sour look on my face whenever I am faced with a Mac and have to use it.
Well, that's well enough ranting and probably all points other people have made anyways, but I'm just instinctively get a sour look on my face whenever I am faced with a Mac and have to use it.
I use both. A PC for games and a Mac for work. Regrettably, my mac is getting old and I can't afford to upgrade.
This is something I've been saying for quite some time now, with the exception that I usually add that Mac battery life kicks PC battery life in the ass. I'm a PC user and always have been, but when it became apparent that between me and my brother, we were going to start wanting to edit videos and create music, I recommended he get a Mac for his next one. For everyday use, I'd never touch the thing, but it's nice to have it there for when it's needed.Jaded Scribe said:
Also, I met my first Linux user yesterday, and now I know why they are stereotyped as elitist douchebags. He was a friendly douche, but a douche nonetheless.
Exactly! after you sended that picture I have nothing to say, damn! ;DJodah said:
That basically sums up the debate. They both have their uses it depends what you need.
Edit : Credit to Mr. Pantomime for the improved picture!
I use Linux and XP, I like my mouse to have 2 buttons and a wheel.
I won't pay for an apple product because they are overpriced and really have anything more to offer than the competitors (like and Ipod vs an off brand MP3 player, or iPhone vs smart phone) other than the fact it is cool to have Apple tat. Anything Apple makes has a bad habit of being WAY overrated and Apple has a worse habit of not admitting they made a mistake with their products (see the iPhone dropping calls when you hold it in your left hand is not a design flaw, it is just you holding it wrong).
Anything office/art wise Linux can do better, anything gaming wise XP can do better.
Hardware wise, I HATE Macs. Every try working on 1 (admittedly, I only had to mess with the older junk)? PC's are simple in that everything comes apart and goes together the same no matter the model (except for the case). Mac's have their own way of putting things together and their parts are all unqiue to Mac. You can put a Gateway part into an HP with usually no problem, but only Apple parts work in only Apple products. Plus they are a ***** to take apart without a hammer.
I won't pay for an apple product because they are overpriced and really have anything more to offer than the competitors (like and Ipod vs an off brand MP3 player, or iPhone vs smart phone) other than the fact it is cool to have Apple tat. Anything Apple makes has a bad habit of being WAY overrated and Apple has a worse habit of not admitting they made a mistake with their products (see the iPhone dropping calls when you hold it in your left hand is not a design flaw, it is just you holding it wrong).
Anything office/art wise Linux can do better, anything gaming wise XP can do better.
Hardware wise, I HATE Macs. Every try working on 1 (admittedly, I only had to mess with the older junk)? PC's are simple in that everything comes apart and goes together the same no matter the model (except for the case). Mac's have their own way of putting things together and their parts are all unqiue to Mac. You can put a Gateway part into an HP with usually no problem, but only Apple parts work in only Apple products. Plus they are a ***** to take apart without a hammer.