Magic vs. Technology

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dietpeachsnapple

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I have seen magic applied in insanely strategic manners.

I have seen magic systems that allow for the power to be applied in any manner the imagination may require so long as it was within the bounds of the influence inherent to the magic user.

"Technology" wouldn't stand a chance.

Noelveiga said:
I don't normally get into these silly threads, but...

...wouldn't the scientists ALSO know about magic?

I mean, when they start researching DNA and somebody casts a spell in the vicinity and they see it realign, wouldn't they look into that? If magic was to somehow really exist in this universe, wouldn't it be a part of how nature works and, in turn, make it a part of what scientists study?
A synergy of the two might eventually develop, but I think this is about a battle defined by its magic and non-magic extremes.
 

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Personally I would like Technology to win because I find tech to be alot more fascinating and interesting. Specially since I wanna be a cyborg in the future...Ok it aint gonna happen in my lifetime but im sure in the next hundred or so years we will have 'cyborgs'. Just not the kind that shoots lasers out their eyes etc.
 

mangus

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science, because there's no such thing as magic.

"MAGIC MISSILE! crap, out of mana!"
"Sir, neither of those things exists, stop this madness!"
 

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Their is a saying from Doctor Who that goes thus:

"The highest form of technology is considered magic. Well the opposite it true as well."

To expand, I'm a big fan of the Volkswagen GTI. In newer models it has the option of a DSG gear box and i understand how it works, but I have described it as witchcraft. even thou the gear box in a formula one car is the one most likely to be infused with eldric power. no really, they can change gear faster than you can blink.

Magic no longer exists, magic was what we called any force we didn't understand.
 

JohnnySex

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Magic because magic wouldn't have to obey any of the laws of science so they could do literally anything, while the science dudes would be stuck having to follow rules.
 

Amnestic

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Technology: Shoots bullets.

Magic: Stops time, tears the very fabric of reality and knits it back together in such a way that the bullets were never existed.

Hmm, I wonder?
 

Timotheus

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But according to Arcanum's logic neither science , nore magic can win:
There's always a time, magic is stronger, then comes a time, technology is. The time the game's story takes place, technology rules, but some time before, magic did. But the magic era could just start, when this elf destroyed vendigroth, a society based on science.
 

dietpeachsnapple

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Noelveiga said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
A synergy of the two might eventually develop, but I think this is about a battle defined by its magic and non-magic extremes.
But that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Why would an entire group of people forfeit a whole area of nature when trying to build an army?

That'd be like a battle of biologists versus engineers. Would the geneticists refuse to use any mechanical device on principle?
First of all, this is the internet. A pretense of things making sense is madness.

Second, the title and OP specification is MAGIC vs TECHNOLOGY. If you have a problem with this dichotomy, take it up with OP.
 

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JohnnySex said:
Magic because magic wouldn't have to obey any of the laws of science so they could do literally anything, while the science dudes would be stuck having to follow rules.
Wait a minute... Why to mages have to do all those rituals and say magic words and such if there aren't any rules? If magic doesn't have to obey any rules, then how can anyone make it do anything? You're just as likely to kill yourself as your enemy or make Oobleck fall from the skies.

And if magic does obey logical, consistent rules, doesn't that put it in the domain of science's methodological studies?
 

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Noelveiga said:
dietpeachsnapple said:
A synergy of the two might eventually develop, but I think this is about a battle defined by its magic and non-magic extremes.
But that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Why would an entire group of people forfeit a whole area of nature when trying to build an army?

That'd be like a battle of biologists versus engineers. Would the geneticists refuse to use any mechanical device on principle?
i think he meant like the state you see in full metal alchemist, both science and magic are combines if you will
 

darth gditch

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If we go by DnD magic system, I'd say it would be pretty even.
Still, I'd have to go with technology, just because it's faster and more efficient. In DnD the most powerful spells require a lot of concentration and power, while comparable weapons of mass destruction require a button to be pushed. (okay, there's a lot more involved to launching a nuke, but you get the idea.)
 

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Why not use magic to further technology!? Why not use the magic to change the very make-up of technology?! Why not harness the energy of magic to power every piece of technology!? WHY NOT USE IT TO CHANGE OUR VERY REALITY IN A WAY THAT ALL WE HAVE EVER WANTED EXISTS!?!?!? THAT ALL TECHNOLOGY IS INVENTED!?!?!?! THAT ALL IS RIGHT WITH THEY WORLD!?!?!? THE POWER, MY GOD THE POWER!!!!! AAH!!!!!!!

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Ahem. Sorry. Anyways, magic is the only one that could possibly win. Unless technology invents some sort of magic-shield. In which case, technology might win... But couldn't magic just make it so they didn't work? Make a moth appear in the machinery like with the first military computer? Hmm...

Amnestic said:
Magic: Stops time, tears the very fabric of reality and knits it back together in such a way that the bullets were never existed.
And the primary use of the guns when the bullets had been taken away? Fancy paperweights.
 

Umwerfer

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is the science scientifically correct? because if it isn't, then it is pretty much magic itself^^ magic vs antimatter bomb? hah, I laugh at your blue dress:D
 

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mayney93 said:
MA7743W said:
Magic because IT'S MAGIC!
They can make all those puny scientists dissapear.
cough deathstar cough
Cough arcane magic can make the Death Star vanish in the blink of an eye while the Death Star takes months to build cough.