Major Changes In Youtube Involving Let's Players

[Baddamobs]

I don't know: this sounds like this is going to hurt/take down a lot of people who just LP as a hobby, not to mention several LP'ers (what the hell kind of wording is that...?) who definitely don't deserve to be taken down.

 

[GoaThief]

For as many people calling the companies greedy, aren't the LPers just as greedy?

I never watched any channels or follow anyone, and most of the ones I do watch are by people who only did a game or one series. I really don't see this affecting anyone who does it to show off a game they love.

Except the LPers often put in a ton of work making videos and they usually don't make much money to offset the costs.That's why most have other jobs to help them make money.

Do you need someone to pay you to do hobbies?

Heh, that's not a totally unfair assessment.

It's really not hard to make LPs, especially as nearly all of them are of someone just playing a game normally with an annoying running commentary of nothingness.

 

[mirage202]

Part of me doesn't disagree with this. In a way I've always thought it a bit iffy to take someones game, talk over it and suddenly make money. I know lots of people will disagree with that because of XYZ reason yet it's still a fact. YouTubers doing gaming content do make money off of other peoples backs. Without those games there would be no content, nobody can deny that.

However.

This I believe is the wrong way to go about this. If publishers are so concerned then they need to realise that neither YouTube nor LP'ers need to change, but they do.

EULA's and the like should be changed to state that yes you can do this kind of thing on places like YouTube, to pretend that it is not the way forward while desperately clinging onto TV ad spots is backwards and stupid. The stipulation should be that publishers and/or developers should be entitled to a 5-10% cut of all ad revenue generated by their game.

That way LP'ers and the like can still make a living if that is what they choose to do, and the original content creators can take their slice of the action and actually make money on top of sales.

Why this isn't happening instead of a blanket "Fuck You!" I don't know.

 

[Arkhangelsk]

If this stops cunts like Pewdiepie making money from their shitty videos then I'm all for it.

Sucks for the few good ones though.

Good. PewDiePie is a talentless shmuck who really needs to stop making money for being a waste of organic matter and screaming at the video screen. The fact that he's getting shafted makes me so happy. I really hope he quits making videos.


Also, there's nothing really wrong with this. I never understood why people enjoyed watching other people play the video game for them anyway, and the videos themselves can still exist it just won't be a freaking market.

Look at Mr. Smiles over here. God forbid he gets paid for granting entertainment there's actually a demand for. The bastard.

I actually like Pewdiepie. It's not any form of intellectual entertainment, but it's silly, it's easy on the brain, and I (and obviously many others) enjoy it. So I don't hope he gets shut down.

And why do LP's exist? The same reason we like reaction videos. It's funny to see from other's perspectives, especially when they freak out.

I honestly don't understand you types, it's like eating soup at a restaurant and complaining that the salad is horrible just because someone else is eating it ten feet from you. Just don't eat the frikkin' salad.

 

[GoaThief]

As a side note, can we please finally get around to passing a new Copyright law that isn't coo-coo bananas already?

Really the Copyright laws at this point need a full on update or rewriting since us LPers have to use the Fair Use Act of 1976 to try and defend ourselves, and it doesn't always work. The market and things have changed so greatly, and with LPs being in this grey area then it's a pain, and combine it with YouTube's broken copyright system you've got hell itself to fight if you do LPs there.
I know I've learned the hard way after doing Kingdom Hearts Final Mix on YouTube.

That's because the last true Copyright Act to be passed in the US was the 1970s. We're still using an outdated Copyright Act that never envisioned the power of the internet and assumes any infringer to be a competing business as opposed to say individual making fan content. And then there's the DMCA, which is best left ignored.

But people who monetize game videos without permission could certainly be considered an operating business.

Without money it's a bit different but I can understand well the creator's perspective. Essentially people are taking your work and making money from it for nothing.

 

[lacktheknack]

Good. PewDiePie is a talentless shmuck who really needs to stop making money for being a waste of organic matter and screaming at the video screen. The fact that he's getting shafted makes me so happy. I really hope he quits making videos.


Also, there's nothing really wrong with this. I never understood why people enjoyed watching other people play the video game for them anyway, and the videos themselves can still exist it just won't be a freaking market.

"I personally don't enjoy it, therefore no one should".

This is exactly what you're saying. Pardon me if I think that your opinion is entirely scrappable.

 

[RicoADF]

I am surprised this didn't happen sooner. Both the EULA and copyright laws are pretty clear on the fact that using an entire, or parts of a, computer game to make money is considered a copyright infringement unless you have some kind of consent from the holder of the copyright. This is essentially Youtube adapting its' policies to abide by the law (and to avoid lawsuits, no doubt) while still giving LPers a fair chance of keeping up their work as a non-profit venture with the permission of the copyright holders.

I can't say I am very upset by this and I can't really see all the nefarious scheming people seem to read into this. Copyright laws are what they are, even if gamers are notoriously bad at adhering to or respecting them. I mean, you'd get sued to the moon and back if you made a Rifftrax-style voice over to a movie and put it on Youtube, and we all accept that. But having someone do the exact same thing with a computer game and getting a cease and desist and suddenly it is BigDev trying to screw over consumers?

I don't know about the US but in Australia reviews are covered under fair use and don't require the copyright owners permission. Then again let's plays range from reviews to people just posting videos because they can, so their in a gray area.
They really need to start updating the laws to allow creativity back into our society.

 

[Neverhoodian]

As if the Google+ integration wasn't bad enough.

It's shit like this that makes me glad I abandoned my channel long ago. Youtube is shooting themselves in the foot with this, as it's only going to encourage people to migrate to other sites for LP content.

 

[lacktheknack]

Good. PewDiePie is a talentless shmuck who really needs to stop making money for being a waste of organic matter and screaming at the video screen. The fact that he's getting shafted makes me so happy. I really hope he quits making videos.


Also, there's nothing really wrong with this. I never understood why people enjoyed watching other people play the video game for them anyway, and the videos themselves can still exist it just won't be a freaking market.

"I personally don't enjoy it, therefore no one should".

This is exactly what you're saying. Pardon me if I think that your opinion is entirely scrappable.

"His opinion opposes mine, therefore it is entirely scrappable."

This is exactly what you're saying. Pardon me if I think that your opinion of my opinion is entirely scrappable.

Touche.

I would still LOVE to see you justify your opinion as the glorious one that all should bow to, seeing how you have the option of "just don't freaking watch PewDiePie".

 

[Arkhangelsk]

Good. PewDiePie is a talentless shmuck who really needs to stop making money for being a waste of organic matter and screaming at the video screen. The fact that he's getting shafted makes me so happy. I really hope he quits making videos.


Also, there's nothing really wrong with this. I never understood why people enjoyed watching other people play the video game for them anyway, and the videos themselves can still exist it just won't be a freaking market.

"I personally don't enjoy it, therefore no one should".

This is exactly what you're saying. Pardon me if I think that your opinion is entirely scrappable.

"His opinion opposes mine, therefore it is entirely scrappable."

This is exactly what you're saying. Pardon me if I think that your opinion of my opinion is entirely scrappable.

"I won't listen to what he's actually saying, because I have a warped view on this subject matter."

This is exactly what you're saying. Pardon me if I think that your opinion of his opinion on your opinion is entirely scrappable.

 

[Smooth Operator]

As always people with power will abuse those without, that is why any self respecting workforce has a union/laws in place so you aren't legally cornered when someone with bigger pockets start to throw their weight around.
And no this matter has not gone through an official legal system it is simply Google giving into pressure and making deals for themselves, that is why corporations can also take down any video without legal oversight, conglomerates like Google really aren't concerned if a few ants get squashed as they move along because in terms of advertisement 1 million views on a shit cat video is exactly the same as 1 mil on quality content.

Most importantly right now is to make the matter public so the shady DMCA deals that have been going on so far aren't kept from the public, tell the people what companies they are dealing with and the pressure will be on.
Then either the matter will go to court and be defined once and for all or Youtube will become a gaming wasteland, then again it is high time they didn't own this space alone because this is exactly what will happen in a monopoly.

 

[neonsword13-ops]

Welp.

This is gonna piss off a good fair amount of people.

And by that, I mean at least a third of the youtube community.

I'm kinda glad that I've decided not to use game footage in videos I will make in the future. Best way to avoid it is to not do it at all.

I wonder how in-depth this search will be. Because I know for a fact that they will not have thousands of people going through every single CoD video out to see if it is monetized or not.

Also, I love how Mojang hasn't said "No Monetization." Guess that means a shit-ton more Minecraft videos in the future.

 

[zehydra]

I wasn't aware that LPs made any money at all.
I enjoy watching them and find them useful, but it doesn't make any sense to get paid for making a LP.

 

[TehCookie]

For as many people calling the companies greedy, aren't the LPers just as greedy?

I never watched any channels or follow anyone, and most of the ones I do watch are by people who only did a game or one series. I really don't see this affecting anyone who does it to show off a game they love.

Except the LPers often put in a ton of work making videos and they usually don't make much money to offset the costs.That's why most have other jobs to help them make money.

Do you need someone to pay you to do hobbies?

When said hobby cuts deeply into my time to the point that I can't hold a full-time job at the same time? Yes.

Plus, people WERE willing to pay them. If they stop paying, then the hobbyists won't be able to afford to live without getting back into a nine-to-five, so no more LPs.

It's pretty simple. There's only 24 hours in a day.

You really think a person who did one game is making enough money to live off of? There are also people who work 9-5 and still find time to make LPs. I wouldn't say doing it for money is the same as doing it because you want to share a game.

 

[Rastrelly]

1: What do you think of this sudden change happening next year?
We want each penny! Each penny! You, dirty robbers! We hate you! (c) Publishers

2: Are you worried about your favorite Let's Player's future?
Nah, I don't watch any of monetized letsplays

3: Do You Think This should have happened a long time ago, and are proud of Youtube's Decision?
No, it's crappy scheme to "protect intellectual property", i.e., they hope to raise profitability this way (stupid, stupid morons).

4: Anyone think that Video Game Crash is going to happen due to this being one of the factors?
Maybe, but it won't be a major part of possible crash.

5: Which Let's Players do you think would be fine with this outcome? Which ones do you think would not be?
Dunno )

6: Freestlye Final Thoughts - Your take on this with a good conclusion?
Well, it's publisher's right to loose some free advertisement. Monetised letsplays - as shows my limited knowledge of 'em - tend to have higher quality, thus more effective as a way to spread info on game. And this kind of letsplays is the one to disappear. I'd say this policy may be reverted after a couple of years.