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Michael S. Azrael

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What laws do you think should be repealed?

I think cannabis should be legalised, you have about 23 times greater chance of getting cancer from cigarettes and it is not as damaging as made out, plus with a Kaleidoscope you can have endless hours of fun.
 

lostclause

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I only support medicinal uses for this sort of thing. It's not a bad drug but it's still not a good one (NB, I don't support cigarettes or alcohol either).
 

badgersprite

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I agree with cannabis. Holland has showed that decriminalisation actually discourages people from using drugs, because it "makes it boring". =P

Another thing, in my humble opinion, is same-sex marriage (or civil unions, or whatever you want to call them). Provided that gay marriage isn't performed in churches that don't agree with it, I don't see how it affects anybody other than the people getting married. Marriage is a state issue, not a religious issue. But I really don't want to start a diatribe about the myths of 'traditional marriage', so I'll end this here.

I also don't agree with censorship laws (the only exception being material which is in itself the commission of an actual crime - for example, child pornography). We don't need the government telling us what we can and can't see. Society can self-regulate. Material that is inappropriate for kids will not end up in a children's library, and major companies that own chains of bookstores will not want to be associated with material or ideologies people find offensive, because people can boycott them. Censorship just makes people more interested in what they're not allowed to have.
 

inglioti

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Michael S. Azrael said:
But I think everything should be legal so long as you don't infringe on another person's rights.
i'm paraphrasing of course but there's a quote somewhere along the lines of "one's freedom to swing there fists ends upon impacting with another's nose..."

i'm for the legalisation of drugs in general i think - as more and more professionals are bleating about how the war on drugs have failed. think prohibition in the 20's in america.

EDIT: oh god how could i forget ... same sex marriage, abortion laws, scientific researching restrictions... actually... just everything religion prohibits.
 

trelloskilos

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I'd allow for anything in moderation...which includes drugs & alcohol.

I don't have an issue with casual cannabis use, but in the UK, it seems to have become the norm where kids proudly boast about smoking stupid amounts of weed on a daily basis.

Exactly the same with alcohol. Responsible drinking is good. Binge drinking is bad.

Civil partnerships are already legal in the UK, but I don't buy into "It's the same as marriage, but in name only". What a load of crap. If that was the case, then just drop the whole traditional ritual, and call any legal partnership between two people, irrespective of their sex, as a civil partnership. - That way, heterosexuals can't feel all snobbish under the delusions that they are 'tolerant' at the same time.
 

Bourne Endeavor

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badgersprite said:
I also don't agree with censorship laws (the only exception being material which is in itself the commission of an actual crime - for example, child pornography). We don't need the government telling us what we can and can't see. Society can self-regulate. Material that is inappropriate for kids will not end up in a children's library, and major companies that own chains of bookstores will not want to be associated with material or ideologies people find offensive, because people can boycott them. Censorship just makes people more interested in what they're not allowed to have.
Whilst we agree, the reason for censorship stems from sheep minded individuals who without being told what it is they can and cannot see, will lobby an endless barrage of complaints should they deem something unfit. The government by principle cares not for censorship however they implicate it solely to rectify a potential hassle, specifically parents with an inability to parent their children properly. In spite of the stupidity, television, video games, music, everything will always hold the primary blame if a child does wrong instead of the parents; who should monitor their children and what it may be that they fancy.

Even with censorship there are frequent uproars when content is claimed to "cross the line" for lack of a better term; it would be a debacle if it was removed entirely, although I must admit, I would find it highly entertaining.
 

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lostclause said:
I only support medicinal uses for this sort of thing. It's not a bad drug but it's still not a good one (NB, I don't support cigarettes or alcohol either).
I agree on using it for medical purposes only. As for cigarettes, i really want them banned. My mum smokes and i despise it. I admit i have tried it out of curiosity but didn't take so well. Now i have realised i am getting more damage then she is through passive smoking. And does my mother care that she is killing my body? Of course not!
Bans around the shopping centres and public areas pleased me. Problem is that people ignore the warnings and continue smoking without anyone stopping them. My mum also ignores warnings and i have given up asking her to obey. I used to hate walking past people smoking especially when there is a crowd as the smoke is then thicker and more intoxicating.

Alcohol, well, i do drink small amounts occasionally and do enjoy going to the pub for a drink or two with friends so i can't say i don't agree with alcohol. I do however like the age restrictions put in place and the ID required. It used to bother me but now i realise its for the safty of children and our future children.
 

badgersprite

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Bourne said:
badgersprite said:
I also don't agree with censorship laws (the only exception being material which is in itself the commission of an actual crime - for example, child pornography). We don't need the government telling us what we can and can't see. Society can self-regulate. Material that is inappropriate for kids will not end up in a children's library, and major companies that own chains of bookstores will not want to be associated with material or ideologies people find offensive, because people can boycott them. Censorship just makes people more interested in what they're not allowed to have.
Whilst we agree, the reason for censorship stems from sheep minded individuals who without being told what it is they can and cannot see, will lobby an endless barrage of complaints should they deem something unfit. The government by principle cares not for censorship however they implicate it solely to rectify a potential hassle, specifically parents with an inability to parent their children properly. In spite of the stupidity, television, video games, music, everything will always hold the primary blame if a child does wrong instead of the parents; who should monitor their children and what it may be that they fancy.

Even with censorship there are frequent uproars when content is claimed to "cross the line" for lack of a better term; it would be a debacle if it was removed entirely, although I must admit, I would find it highly entertaining.
Yeah, I'm well aware of that (unfortunately <_<), but I'm speaking from a hypothetical, 'perfect-world scenario' mindset. I mean, considering people even prohibited alcohol in America, I think it's fair to say people want the Government to, "Stay off our backs, as long as you oppress everybody and ban everything we don't like!" I find it honestly confounding that people have such a massive sense of self-entitlement that they think they have somehow earned the right to live in a world where they never have to see anything they don't like, and wholeheartedly believe anything that upsets their sensibilities should be banned or censored.

I just wish the Government was brave enough to not pander to those dimwits. In theory, I think that kind of censorship should be left to commercial companies who decide whether or not to air or sell certain material, rather than just a blanket ban on material entering a country. That's not to say that doesn't have problems too (for example, some companies might choose not to air any material that uses swear words, or continue to censor those shows anyway) but I think that current examples show that, as long as there's enough variation of sources, the problems would balance themselves out.
 

Vuljatar

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Anything that doesn't directly hurt someone else should be legal.

This includes but is not limited to prostitution, same-sex marriage, and the use of any and all recreational drugs within the privacy of your own home.

Also there should be no censorship of any kind by any government body for any reason. If you don't want to watch something, don't watch it. If you don't want your kids to watch it, don't let them. Don't ruin stuff for the rest of us just because you're a terrible parent.
 

Dark Knifer

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mrx19869 said:
prostitution anybody? i mean its a person's own body right?
The reason why it's illegal in the first place is that people in some circumstances are forced to sel; there bodies in order to feed themselves and family. Honestly I think the Governments should be giving money to those cases. This shouldn't be a problem in the first place in the modern age, but with all our technology we still haven't solved many problems and we even started a couple new ones.
 

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Swollen Goat said:
Michael S. Azrael said:
What laws do you think should be repealed?

I think cannabis should be legalised, you have about 23 times greater chance of getting cancer from cigarettes and it is not as damaging as made out, plus with a Kaleidoscope you can have endless hours of fun.
Hours? 20 minutes TOPS. But I think everything should be legal so long as you don't infringe on another person's rights.
I think all drugs, of all kinds, should be legalised for recreational use. If you want to hear my argument for that more thoroughly than I could ever put it go read 'High Society' by Ben Elton (both a fantastic novel and with excellent arguments for the legalisation of drugs)

and at M.S. Azrael, 20 minutes tops just shows you haven't had enough cones. Go smoke another 10 each time the kaleidoscope starts to bore you. Good for 4 hours at least. Especially with some good tunes playing.

Edit: I agree with most everything in this thread, including, but not limited to: Call all 'marriages' 'civil unions' instead, same-sex or not; repeal all laws with a religious bent (segregation of church and state is absolutely essential in my opinion); no censorship laws; you should have freedom to do anything you like that does not impinge on other peoples freedom; legalise prostitution

Edit 2: oops, i meant at swollen goat above, not @ azrael
 

Simriel

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Yup. Would help control its use and remove the taboo reason that a lot of teens use it.
 

Ultress

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Gay Marriage where ever it's not legalized. It seems odd that it hasn't been fully legalized seeing as how its not hurting anyone(feel free to tell me otherwise if you disagree).
 

Amnestic

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Every single drug would be legalised, taxed and regulated.
Ditto for prostitution.
 

Shaoken

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Gay marriage. Especially considering that about 60% of Australians are in support of it.
 

khululy

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Amnestic said:
Every single drug would be legalised, taxed and regulated.
Ditto for prostitution.
Legalizing all drugs is a bad thing you don't want the whole world to be a meth head.
but If you legalize drugs like cannabis the gouvernment has control as the distribution are concerned it makes it easier to control. less sale to minors etc.
As for prostition this too should be controlled I think most people forget that if there are hookers those perverts who would otherwise rape your daughter can now go bang a streetwalker.
There are always two sides on each medallion but downright banning things is a bad thing to do and it makes the prisons over populated,


edit: From personal experience I can tell smoking cannabis is not that addictive it's mixing them with tabacco that makes you smoke a lot. Because the body craves for nicotine. I never smoked sigarettes just reefers but I noticed I stared smoking them just for the sake of getting nicotine. Then I started smoking pure and now I smoke less cannabis en less frequent I now smoke twice a week instead of twice a day.
 

Scrittore

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mrx19869 said:
prostitution anybody? i mean its a person's own body right?
It's legal in Victoria, but prostitutes are only allowed to operate in liscensed venues. There's a brothel on the stock exchange.